Paulbots Crash Adelson Caucus

Commentary ^ | 2-6-12 | Alana Goodman

[SJackson]

Nice publicity for the GOP. In a few days paulbots will be claiming Jews vote for Paul. Other coverage

Lies, anti-Semitism intrude on special Saturday night caucus

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Long lines, complaints of election fraud plague special Las Vegas caucus for religious voters

Anger at Night Caucus Over a Religious Declaration

The candidate of anarchy. Rules don't apply to Paulbots. As I commented on an earlier thread

Of course it does. Here in Illinois if I'm hospitalized 6 days before an election I could get an emergency absentee ballot, four days before I can't. Establlished rules are meant to be followed, even by Ron Paul supporters. As I noted earlier I think the robocall was contemptable, deliberately giving false information. Your recourse under our system is in the courts, and I wish you well. Not yelling, screaming and disrupting as the media has reported some supporters, not necessarily you, were doing.

BTW, since the Paul campaign knew about this in time for a robocall, and I presume was disturbed by it, why they didn't take legal action. It's not difficult, rather than mobilize the troops under false pretenses.

[SJackson]

look for this type of behaivior in the future.

[SJackson]

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[EnglishCon]

Ron Paul.

If I stood on him, I’d throw my boots away rather than trying to clean them.

[Wallace T.]

In the 1960s, William Buckley drained what had been the swamp of anti-liberal politics from numerous groups: libertarians, objectivists, conspiracists, Old Right isolationists, etc. Buckley is no longer with us, nor is Reagan. The ex-Democrats who allied with conservatism in the 1970s, the so-called neo-conservatives, and the Religious Right have faded in influence and political power. Irving Kristol and Jerry Falwell have passed on. The electoral base created by Reagan is aging. The reclaimed land is reverting to swamp land.

I don't hold Ron Paul fully accountable for this phenomenon, any more than Robert Taft, Douglas MacArthur, and Joe McCarthy were fully culpable for the racists, conspiracists, and anti-Semites among their supporters. All four men were and are better than their fringe elements. Nevertheless, all four inadequately disciplined those fringe supporters. For example, General MacArthur, while deeply conservative, was no anti-Semite. However, his senior staff (e.g. General Wedemeyer) was filled with officers who believed that the Jews were collectively responsible for the world's ills.

[Sister_T]

I got one word to describe my support for Ron Paul, and that is: End the Fed!

Wow. Dealing with a real genius here.

[Sybeck1]

There is an article posted here this weekend that Paul and Romney are in cahoots. Seems like a good strategy to send Paultards to crash Newts deal, keeping Mittens hands clean.

[Thud]

I wonder why GOP protesters wearing space alien masks haven't shown up at Ron Paul for President demonstrations and meetings, while waving signs about their support for Ron Paul "because he's one of us!" "Space Aliens for Ron Paul!" "We're from another planet too!" "Zaphod Beeblebrox for Vice-President!" "Pay attention to our weird causes!"

Etc.

[SJackson]

Since the Paul campaign robocled supporters under false presences, he bears quite a bit of responsibility, though he likely didn’t know about it. I agree that Buckley and Reagan were correct.

[iopscusa]

One would have to be blind as a bat to think the neo-conservatives have faded in influence and political power? Have you missed the US wars for Democracy in the Balkans, Iraq, Afpak, Libya and next up Syria/Iran and then who the frick knows where!
BTW, skanky Commentary writers Alana Goodman and Jennifer Rubin are shining examples of why the Republican Party is dying!

[maine yankee]

I wonder why GOP protesters wearing space alien masks haven’t shown up at Ron Paul for President demonstrations and meetings, while waving signs about their support for Ron Paul “because he’s one of us!” “Space Aliens for Ron Paul!” “We’re from another planet too!” “Zaphod Beeblebrox for Vice-President!” “Pay attention to our weird causes!”

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Because nobody would notice ?

[Absolutely Nobama]

The RuPaulista SS strikes again.....

Wonder how long it will take before this crap gets violent...

[billybudd]

Haha, this is ridiculous! This is a perfectly sound response to a corrupt caucus that was held in the private school of Gingrich’s main financial backer! And criticizing this corruption is “anti-semtism”? Some so-called conservatives on here have lost their minds. Good for the Ron Paul people for crashing this sham caucus.

[SJackson]

You know perfectly well the charge of antisemitism was based on the comments by Paulbot(s) in Las Vegas, looking at the attendees, that these were the people from Goldman Sachs, and that these are New York lawyers. Why don't you mention that, rather dishonestly attribute the claim to the nature of of the caucus. It's entirely possible they were Goldman people and New York lawyers, but given the willingness of the Paul campaign to accept support from racists/Holocaust deniers/Klansmen/Jewhaters, it's not an unreasonable conclusion, though unsubstantiated.

Your sympathy for breaking the laws of Nevada and perjury isn't surprising, though I've usually described paulbots as anarchists, toltalarians fits too. Laws don't apply to them.

[SJackson]

One would have to be blind as a bat to think the neo-conservatives have faded in influence and political power?

Iopscusa may be right. Look at history. Reagan, neoconservative. Two terms. Bush I, neoconservative. GWB, the worst neoconservative. Five out of eight elections. This time around, of the four remaining, three neoconservative and Ron Paul who's in a distant, well not 2nd or 3rd. The dropouts, neoconservative.

Honestly, the democrat party is the place for paulistinians, not the GOP.

[SJackson]

Since I used the toltarian word rather than the likely more accurate anarchist term, a favorite quote from Eric Hoffer, probably a neocon, though I haven't a clue as to his political allegiance.

It is the true believers ability to shut his eyes and stop his ears to facts that do not deserve to be either seen or heard which is the source of his unequaled fortitude and constancy. He cannot be frightened by danger nor disheartened by obstacles nor baffled by contradictions because he denies their existence. Strength of faith, as Bergson pointed out, manifests itself not in moving mountains but in not seeing mountains to move. And it is the certitude of his infallible doctrine that renders the true believer impervious to the uncertainties, surprises and the unpleasant realities of the world around him.

Thus the effectiveness of a doctrine should not be judged by its profundity, sublimity or the validity of the truths it embodies, but by how thoroughly it insulates the individual from his self and the world as it is. What Pascal said of an effective religion is true of any effective doctrine: it must be contrary to nature, to common sense, and to pleasure.

Ike's (another neocon) reaction to the book

In it, he points out that dictatorial systems make one contribution to their people which leads them to tend to support such systems - freedom from the necessity of innforming themselves and making up their own minds concerning these tremendous complex and difficult questions

Could be summed up by Ignorance is Bliss.

[SJackson]

EnglishCon, don't throw away good boots, you'll regret it.

Since you're on the thread, should have included you in post 16

[SJackson]

My formatting mistake, Could be summed up by Ignorance is Bliss was my comment, not President Eisenhowers.

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[Wallace T.]

The term, neo-conservative, is not a synonym for interventionist. The Balkan wars, the Libyan intervention, and the focus on Afghanistan were conducted by Democrat administrations. The foreign policy advisers used by Obama and Clinton come from the Kennedy-Johnson tradition of liberal interventionism. The main difference between liberal interventionists and their Republican counterparts is in the lesser degree of aggressiveness and the greater reliance on UN or NATO blessing for military action. Both Clinton and Obama learned the lesson of not adequately responding to international terrorism from Carter's weak response to the Iranian hostage situation and were more likely to use force. In some respects, we are seeing a replay of the 1960s, when Goldwater was seen as being extreme in his stance towards Communist aggression. Within six months after defeating Goldwater partly on the basis of being more level-headed toward the Reds, Johnson committed the U.S. to a full scale ground war against the Communists in Vietnam. Substitute Muslims for Communists and you have the same pattern five decades later.