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Via. Drudge: Fox Tests Volt, Runs Out Of Juice In Lincoln Tunnel
The Truth about Cars ^ | February 7, 2012

Posted on 02/07/2012 2:00:54 PM PST by Zakeet

GM noted that Fox has issues with the Volt. They give Eric Bolling a Chevy Volt for a week. And this is what GM receives in return. Ingrates. *



* Bet you poor dumb working stiffs can hardly wait until there are a few hundred of these overpriced golf carts on the road in New York City ... and they all run out of power ... on a cold day ... at the same time ... on narrow roads, intersections, bridges, overpasses, ramps, and tunnels ... at pretty much the same time. Then, you really will be a bunch of ingrates!

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Before any of you $&%# stupid, racist Freepers laugh at this excellent example of my Libtard Community Organizer business training, I want you to think about how much of your money went into the design, manufacturing, sales, financing, and direct tax subsidies of this pile of junk.

1 posted on 02/07/2012 2:01:01 PM PST by Zakeet
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2 posted on 02/07/2012 2:06:32 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Zakeet

I know everyone wants to make fun of electric cars but doesn’t everything have problems when they first start. I don’t remember the first airplane being able to go as far as they do today. The first car you had to use a hand crank and probably had to stop every 100 feet. They definitely weren’t able to travel for miles and miles like today. I am not sure I understand why FREEPERS are making fun of automobiles that may one day be a great thing. I bet the first computer was this big hunky thing that was only able to be turned on for five minutes and could not be held in your hand.


3 posted on 02/07/2012 2:06:52 PM PST by napscoordinator (Go Santorum! Go Patriots! America's poses)
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To: Zakeet

I know everyone wants to make fun of electric cars but doesn’t everything have problems when they first start. I don’t remember the first airplane being able to go as far as they do today. The first car you had to use a hand crank and probably had to stop every 100 feet. They definitely weren’t able to travel for miles and miles like today. I am not sure I understand why FREEPERS are making fun of automobiles that may one day be a great thing. I bet the first computer was this big hunky thing that was only able to be turned on for five minutes and could not be held in your hand.


4 posted on 02/07/2012 2:06:52 PM PST by napscoordinator (Go Santorum! Go Patriots! America's poses)
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To: napscoordinator

Electric cars have been around for over a hundred years......................and they still have the same problems they had a hundred years ago....................


5 posted on 02/07/2012 2:10:05 PM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Red Badger

Electric cars have been around for over a hundred years......................and they still have the same problems they had a hundred years ago....................

lol. Holy cow. I knew they were around a while but not that long. lol.


6 posted on 02/07/2012 2:12:29 PM PST by napscoordinator (Go Santorum! Go Patriots! America's poses)
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To: napscoordinator
Awww, poor chevy volt. Are you Insane? I don't give any lemons a chance.
Especially the Lemon in the WH. Did you take a wrong turn at DU?
7 posted on 02/07/2012 2:12:37 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: napscoordinator

Do you realize they have been trying to build an electric car since the early 1900s and have always failed because the batteries cannot store energy as well as say... hydrocarbons?


8 posted on 02/07/2012 2:13:20 PM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: napscoordinator

uh because our gov’t is spending our grandkids money on this stuff. Let the private economy handle the invention of an electric car.

BTW: electric cars aren’t even really “green”. They run off of coal and nuclear fuel. So even if they do work the enviro-wackos will still say this is worse than gas powered cars.


9 posted on 02/07/2012 2:13:20 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: napscoordinator

Your taxes were used to build the car,that nobody wants..Let the free market invent a electric car..

Everything else you cite airplanes,computers all invented by private enterprises...


10 posted on 02/07/2012 2:13:53 PM PST by GSP.FAN (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: napscoordinator
I don’t remember the first airplane being able to go as far as they do today.

I don't recall the Federal Govt' subsidizing the Wright Brothers and then turning around and giving massive tax credits to get people to buy one five minutes after the first Kitty Hawk flight. I also don't recall the Federal Govt' going around encouraging people with cash handouts to crush their older buck boards in order to artificially create demand for the plane either.

11 posted on 02/07/2012 2:13:58 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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lol. Holy cow. I knew they were around a while but not that long. lol.


12 posted on 02/07/2012 2:17:34 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: napscoordinator
If you want to see one of the very first ones all you have to do is visit International Rectifier in Temecula, CA. It's in their front lobby.
13 posted on 02/07/2012 2:18:11 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Zakeet
...they all run out of power ... on a cold day ... at the same time ... on narrow roads...

Any Ford pickup can probably push 5 or 6 of the little things out of the way at a time -- more with an F-250 or 350 -- so it shouldn't be a problem for real Americans.

14 posted on 02/07/2012 2:19:03 PM PST by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Zakeet
Out Of Juice In Lincoln Tunnel...

This is MASSIVE mother of all government failure. Obviously, we need a $Trillion$ new government program to replace or retrofit all US tunnels so that they have car outlets every 1/2 mile. What were they thinking? That a Volt owner would have to stop every 100' in the tunnel, unscrew the nearest squigly, and plug in?

15 posted on 02/07/2012 2:19:49 PM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: Zakeet

Volts for dolts! Volts for dolts!


16 posted on 02/07/2012 2:21:16 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: napscoordinator

You kinda remind me of the Buddhist Monk who self immolated with your posts. :-)

Just kiddin’


17 posted on 02/07/2012 2:21:24 PM PST by jazusamo (Character assassination is just another form of voter fraud: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Red Badger; napscoordinator

“Electric cars have been around for over a hundred years......................and they still have the same problems they had a hundred years ago....................”

Agreed.

Additionally, the Volt is a variation on existing technology. Locomotives are diesel-electric. That is they use diesel motors to drive electric motors on the wheel. The Volt uses a gas engine to do the same job, when the charge runs down.

As for your examples of innovation, they were improvements over existing technology, even if they weren’t very good. The first airplane didn’t go very far, but there was no other form of powered flight. The first computers filled a good sized room, but they did the job that hundreds of people with pencil and paper did, and quicker, (and they could stay on for more than 5 minutes). As for early automobiles, actually, they were pretty good. Not as fast and safe as today’s cars, but not bad. The Volt is touted as an improvement, superior technology to conventional gasoline powered cars.

I would say that the Hyundai Elantra gets better mileage, and has a smaller carbon footprint, while saving the consumer 10s of thousands in upfront costs versus the Volt.


18 posted on 02/07/2012 2:21:45 PM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: napscoordinator

What makes you think that electric cars are a new idea?

19 posted on 02/07/2012 2:22:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: napscoordinator

It’s not the electric car, per se, that they are making fun of. It’s the government mandate trying to force consumers to buy a technology that isn’t ready to compete.

There is also enough fossil fuel on the earth, especially when you include methyl hydrates, to power the world for hundreds of years yet.

There may come the day when fossil fuel alternatives and electric cars are able to supplant oil and gas and coal.

It’s just not there yet and won’t be for at least 60 or 70 years.


20 posted on 02/07/2012 2:22:14 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: napscoordinator

“Electric cars have been around for over a hundred years...”

Yep. Nikola Tesla’s was the best. It could go about 90mph all over the countryside powered by a little box he held in his lap that he plugged into car.


21 posted on 02/07/2012 2:23:22 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: napscoordinator

The’ve been around for longer than the gas car.

It’s only now have they started making any serious headway in being able to address the shortcomings of the battery issues.


22 posted on 02/07/2012 2:25:00 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Zakeet
The Volt is not a pure battery-electric vehicle. It also has a gasoline powered engine. So what if it ran out of "juice" (such technical terms!)? The completely misleading headline would make you believe the car was stuck in the Lincoln Tunnel, due to running out of battery "juice". The reality (gas engine kicks in, car drives out of tunnel) is far less spectacular.

There's plenty to criticize GM about -- union-ridden, taxpayer subsidized, etc. One can also criticize battery-electric vehicles (range, cost, etc.) You could say that the Volt costs too much -- that the battery part will never pay for itself in gasoline saved.

However, it does no good to ignore the facts, when critiquing any technology. The fact remains, the Volt does not have a problem with range (no more so than any other ICE vehicle).
23 posted on 02/07/2012 2:28:16 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Lazlo in PA

Actually, Samuel Langley, Director of the Smithsonian was heavily subsidized by the federal government in direct competition with the Wright brothers. In attempting to develope an airplane, Langley relied upon easy access to government money; the Wright brothers were forced to rely upon hard science and initiative.


24 posted on 02/07/2012 2:28:46 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Zakeet

The Volt is definitely not worth the money, however the headline is misleading. Its a hybrid. The battery discharges quickly, but it still ran.


25 posted on 02/07/2012 2:29:45 PM PST by chopperman
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To: napscoordinator
The United States Postal Service has been experimenting with electric cars. They say they need more money to study if they are feasible.

http://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/electric-vehicles.pdf

26 posted on 02/07/2012 2:30:11 PM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: napscoordinator; Red Badger
Red Badger knows that of which he speaketh.

Electric autos have been around for over 100 years.


27 posted on 02/07/2012 2:32:16 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Zakeet
If you run out of gas along the side of the road, at least you can take a gasoline can, walk to a gas station, and bring back enough to get you to the gas station. If you run out of juice with an electric car, what are you going to do? Walk down the road and get a can of electricity?
28 posted on 02/07/2012 2:33:02 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: napscoordinator

You’re right. If I recall, the first telephones frequently caught fire. And when Ben Franklin invented the wood stove, it only burned wood until the room temperature got up to about 50F, then you had to use coal or whale oil. And when microwave ovens first came out, they cost like $50,000 - even with a $5,000 government subsidy.


29 posted on 02/07/2012 2:34:16 PM PST by kidd
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To: napscoordinator
The ads sound just like the ads for today's electrics.


30 posted on 02/07/2012 2:34:50 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: brownsfan

“The first computers filled a good sized room,”

If I recall correctly. more like a large gymnasium. Full of a couple thousand vacuum tubes. I doubt if they ever shut it off.


31 posted on 02/07/2012 2:35:05 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Good post! The people that have already made up their minds are not apt to be swayed though.


32 posted on 02/07/2012 2:36:56 PM PST by brooklin
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To: napscoordinator

They are using proven technologies that are more than 100 yrs. old.

Unfortunately, they have been proven to be inferior to gasoline, LNG and have not really been improved on to make any sense for long distance travel.

They are fine on a golf course but just a little to big for most fields .


33 posted on 02/07/2012 2:37:50 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Zakeet

The problem with the electric cars is not the cars themselves; it’s the people.

If people didn’t work or shop more than 5-10 miles away from home, chances are that, one charge in an electric car would suffice for at least a week. People should also not have to travel far from home when going on vacation, or to see their friends and family.

So, the solution is to have government make sure that, people have everything in close proximity of their homes in order to make the electric cars viable. While they’re at it, government could pass a regulation that prevents people from using their cars (electric or otherwise) for going to work or for shopping if that places are less than 2 miles away. That way, the electric charge in a car will last even longer, and people walking to shops and work will become more fit, thereby, taking care of two problems the government has become involved in with just a couple of regulations.

So, let’s stop complaining and let big brother and big sister take care of us. They know what’s best for all of us.

;)


34 posted on 02/07/2012 2:37:54 PM PST by adorno
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To: napscoordinator

They are using proven technologies that are more than 100 yrs. old.

Unfortunately, they have been proven to be inferior to gasoline, LNG and have not really been improved on to make any sense for long distance travel.

They are fine on a golf course but just a little to big for most fields .


35 posted on 02/07/2012 2:38:14 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Zakeet

Count on Hawan Williams to conjure up a bunch of liberal talking points.


36 posted on 02/07/2012 2:38:22 PM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: brownsfan

“The ENIAC contained 17,468 vacuum tubes, along with 70,000 resistors, 10,000 capacitors, 1,500 relays, 6,000 manual switches and 5 million soldered joints. It covered 1800 square feet (167 square meters) of floor space, weighed 30 tons, consumed 160 kilowatts of electrical power. There was even a rumor that when turned on the ENIAC caused the city of Philadelphia to experience brownouts, however, this was first reported incorrectly by the Philadelphia Bulletin in 1946 and since then has become an urban myth.”


37 posted on 02/07/2012 2:40:33 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Zakeet

38 posted on 02/07/2012 2:40:55 PM PST by ILS21R (Never give up.)
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To: napscoordinator

The problem with electric cars is the energy capacity of the batteries. The Chevy Volt’s batteries weigh some 400 lbs and hold the energy equivalent of about one gallon of gas. You have to charge those batteries all night to get that meager amount of energy into them. Those numbers simply cannot work.

We would have to improve the energy to weight ratio of batteries many times over before electric cars made sense. There is nothing on the horizon that anyone is talking about that would be a game changer. For the moment, electric cars will only be purchased by wealthy greenies who want to show the world what good people they are.


39 posted on 02/07/2012 2:42:57 PM PST by Oldhunk
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To: GreenHornet

I’d just go to the local convenience store and buy a bunch of 9 volts.


40 posted on 02/07/2012 2:45:35 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: napscoordinator
Electric cars will NEVER compete economically with gasoline powered cars. In fact, we shouldn't even try to replace one with the other. Electric cars will never be able to overcome the limitations of the battery, and when you consider the entire picture (all the energy inputs required to move an electric car X amount of miles vs all the energy inputs required to move a gasoline powered car the same amount of miles) there really is no comparison.

Why can't people accept that gasoline is now and for the foreseeable future the most efficient form of transportation energy? And in fact, where 'green' is concerned, gas powered cars are FAR MORE GREEN and better for the environment than electric cars.

41 posted on 02/07/2012 2:46:17 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: napscoordinator

It’s just a matter of physics, and the storage capacity of energy. No batteries ever invented or contemplated pack as much energy potential in the same volume/weight as a gallon of gasoline. Sorry, but you can’t “wish” away that basic fact.


42 posted on 02/07/2012 2:50:55 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Lazlo in PA; All

The new and improved version

43 posted on 02/07/2012 2:51:24 PM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I don't recall the Federal Govt' subsidizing the Wright Brothers

The Wright Brothers did have a contract from the Army, beginning in 1908.

44 posted on 02/07/2012 2:54:35 PM PST by wideminded
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To: napscoordinator

And you’re right.. The first computer wasn’t ‘handheld’.

It was called the Eniac, designed in 1943 and went into operation in 1046.

“ENIAC contained 17,468 vacuum tubes, 7,200 crystal diodes, 1,500 relays, 70,000 resistors, 10,000 capacitors and around 5 million hand-soldered joints. It weighed more than 30 short tons (27 t), was roughly 8 by 3 by 100 feet (2.4 m × 0.9 m × 30 m), took up 1800 square feet (167 m2), and consumed 150 kW of power[”

You would need an awful big ‘hand’ to hold it! :0)


45 posted on 02/07/2012 2:54:48 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“The ENIAC contained 17,468 vacuum tubes... “

And that’s where the term bug had it’s genesis. A moth got into one of those early beasts with all the tubes and caused some problems. A computer bug.

I’ve been around computers for a couple of years. First one I worked on was a Sperry Univac 1219B missile fire control digital computer, with a whopping 32KB core memory.


46 posted on 02/07/2012 2:54:59 PM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: N. Theknow

The Baker was shaft driven just like the Volt.
Except we are the ones getting the SHAFT.


47 posted on 02/07/2012 2:55:32 PM PST by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: Bigh4u2

oops..

Should read ‘1946’... :)


48 posted on 02/07/2012 2:55:40 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: adorno

You have capsulized Agenda 21 as put forth by the UN & embraced by libturds.


49 posted on 02/07/2012 2:59:13 PM PST by certrtwngnut (It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. (Josef Stalin))
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To: napscoordinator
Oh, like this?

Photobucket

50 posted on 02/07/2012 3:00:53 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Have Regrets Because At The Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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