Posted on 02/07/2012 10:36:59 PM PST by Steelfish
Santorum Delivers a GOP Stunner Former Senator Wins in Minnesota, Missouri; Romney Campaign Plays Down Nonbinding Contests
By NEIL KING JR. And DANNY YADRON
DENVERRick Santorum jolted the Republican presidential race Tuesday by winning nominating contests in Missouri and Minnesota, puncturing Mitt Romney's claim to be the unstoppable front-runner.
Mr. Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator, was running neck and neck with Mr. Romney in preliminary returns from Colorado, a state Mr. Romney won by a wide margin in 2008.
With about 70% of the Colorado vote counted, Mr. Santorum had 38%, to 36% for Mr. Romney. Four years ago, Mr. Romney carried Colorado with 60% of the vote.
Mr. Santorum's twin victories in the Midwest will give his campaign a much-needed burst of momentum and may stir doubt about Mr. Romney's abilities to woo conservatives to his side in important electoral states such as Missouri. So far, Mr. Romney has won in states where he has devoted significant campaign time and advertising dollars.
Mr. Santorum won 55% of the Missouri vote, while Mr. Romney followed with 25%. Texas Rep. Ron Paul was trailing with 12%. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich wasn't on the Missouri ballot.
Mr. Santorum's Missouri victory margin of almost 75,000 votes over Mr. Romney was nearly 29,000 more than Mr. Romney's combined Iowa and Nevada total.
While the Tuesday results didn't directly award any of the delegates needed to claim the GOP nomination, they showed voters rejecting Mr. Romney even in states where he had performed well four years ago.
Mr. Romney had carried Minnesota in 2008 but placed third there on Tuesday. With 85% of precincts in, Mr. Santorum had 45% of the vote, while Mr. Paul had 27%. Mr. Romney had 17% of the vote and Mr. Gingrich claimed 11%.
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He may be a straw man, but a few factors make him a pit bull. First, he is the media darling. Second, he is supported by every minority in the country, his special interest groups are vast, third he is selling class warfare very successfully, and he is a sitting president. He is a champion to the poor. All of this, plus his war chest makes him a pretty powerful dog. To scoff at his power would be dangerous.
The idea that Rick cannot beat Obama; or that he’d even have much trouble, respectfully, is nonsense. Please remember that Scott Brown won convincingly in Massachusettes! Conservatism can win anywhere. Be reminded also that groceries are still higher than they were a year ago and gasoline is creeping back up again. It’ll likely be over $4 gallon by summer.
I wouldn’t vote for Mitt, and I wouldn’t vote for Ron Paul, no matter what.
That leaves either Newt or Rick, or a brokered convention.
I haven’t said much on these threads, because I don’t want to be negative. But I did say that it would be nice if Ron Paul would only drop out—but he never will. I did NOT want Rick to drop out, because we need a conservative backup for Newt, unfortunately.
I will just quietly say that Rick did a stupid thing once, when he endorsed Arlen Specter. But put it in perspective, the way it was. Bush rode back in on a wave of enthusiasm in 2004, and frittered it all away. By 2006, the Republicans were underdogs, and the Democrats were favored. That’s when they got their big majority. That was the main reason why Santorum lost the election—because Bush and Rove dragged the whole party down.
Why did he endorse Specter? Several reasons. Bush and Rove twisted his arm and said that they NEEDED Specter, the only possible winner in that race, in order to get their SCOTUS choices confirmed. Back then, everyone still thought that Rove was a genius, although that didn’t last too much longer.
Second, although Specter was pro-choice, he promised to help confirm pro-life judges. And he did, before he went back off the rails.
Third, Rick said that Specter had endorsed him, previously, so he was just returning the favor. He owed him one. Without Specter’s “moderate” endorsement, it’s doubtful that a conservative like Rick could have won in Pennsylvania. He only did so because conservative religious voters had turned out for him in large numbers.
Rick screwed up once, if you like, by endorsing Specter. How many times has Newt screwed up. What was his excuse for endorsing Dede Scozzafava over a strong conservative, other than desire to ingratiate himself with the RNC? Scozzafava withdrew and through her seat to a Democrat, and what had been a reliable Republican seat is now a Democrat seat. Not only that, but Newt and Scozzafava weakened the NYState Conservative Party’s influence over the NYState GOP, which doesn’t give a damn about pro-life or pro-family support unless the Conservative Party pushes them on it.
At least Specter kept his promise to confirm pro-life judges, before he went off the rails and switched parties. By doing that he killed his political chances. And the end result was a Republican seat—the conservative who was shafted earlier by Rove and Bush actually got back in—whereas in the NY 23rd the end result has been a Democrat seat and a destructive breakdown in relations between the NY GOP and Conservative Parties that will continue to be damaging.
I’d say Newt’s endorsement has a lot more to answer for than Rick’s.
Gingrich supporters can still take heart that, according to the latest survey released by Rasmussen this morning, Newt is back to being statistically TIED with Obama in a head-to-head presidential matchup (43% to 46%, respectively). I think both Gingrich AND Santorum are viable contenders at this point and I liked someone’s suggestion here last night that Gingrich and Santorum should maximize their limited financial resources by dividing the remaining states between the two of them according to how well they poll at each individually and then turn them into one-on-one contests against Romney. I’m a Santorum supporter, but I’d be fine with Gingrich winning the nomination as well.
LOL. Menace?!! Hardly. Hypothetically, if the Gingrich/Santorum results in these states were switched and Newt was calling Santorum a ‘menace’ who should drop out, you’d be screaming how wrong it was for Newt to say that.
Obama is a pit bull. Santorum is a poodle, Romney a Cocker Spaniel and Gingrich a fellow pit bull. Now which dog do you take to the fight?
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Love this. I’m taking the pit bull but as his backup, I’m taking the poodle. These dogs were bred for the hunt and value independence and freedom.
Oh, and I love the fact that Santorum has now officially won more STATES than “Mr. Inevitable and Most Electable” Mitt Romney!
Obama is a pit bull. Santorum is a poodle, Romney a Cocker Spaniel and Gingrich a fellow pit bull. Now which dog do you take to the fight?
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Love this. I’m taking the pit bull but as his backup, I’m taking the poodle. These dogs were bred for the hunt and value independence and freedom.
Obama is a pit bull. Santorum is a poodle, Romney a Cocker Spaniel and Gingrich a fellow pit bull. Now which dog do you take to the fight?
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Love this. I’m taking the pit bull but as his backup, I’m taking the poodle. These dogs were bred for the hunt and value independence and freedom.
Obama is a pit bull. Santorum is a poodle, Romney a Cocker Spaniel and Gingrich a fellow pit bull. Now which dog do you take to the fight?
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Love this. I’m taking the pit bull but as his backup, I’m taking the poodle. These dogs were bred for the hunt and value independence and freedom.
MSM meme. Tired. Old. Worn-out. Flat-out Wrong.
Really, really good question, Kaslin.
Downinthedixie wrote:
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One who could withstand the assault by Obama.
Nominating a conservative and losing would make this whole process a waste of time. I like Santorums character, I just dont think he can beat the loser in office.
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Why don’t you think Santorum could beat a guy as unpopular and as polarizing as Barack Obama? What has Obama done that will make a majority of the electorate want to clamor for four more years of his lawlessness, recklessness, and destructiveness?
Apples and oranges. Would Newt have had the opportunity to work with Clintoon if he had to run in a swing or blue state with his ACU rating? The goal now is to win enough Reagan Dems and Swing State voters to win the Presidency without selling out, not work with the other party. If Newt wasn’t in a super Conservative district, his ACU rating would have been much lower.
Good post NavyMom. However, you are destroying the MSM meme that Newt is 'poison' to women. Carry on! Please!
Exactly, my FRiend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeUPq6md2jg&feature=player_embedded
With this bit of encouragement, we’ll never get rid of the RINO voting little weasel.
If he gets the nomination, the media will open up the hatred on him like we’ve never seen before. He’s solidly pro-life, and the pro-aborts cannot stand that. I think there will be a backlash from the people, a reaction of anger against these attacks that we’ve not previously seen. There will be a lot of Americans voting AGAINST the culture of death emanating from this administration and the media. I pray that will be the case.
Lol, good one.
Very well written. Thank you.
I have been a lurker for years. I signed up today so I could post this link. For those who think that Rick Santorum does not have the passion, skill, intelligence or spine to take this fight to Obama and crush him, please have a look. Thank you for your consideration. God Bless America!
Thank you.
GO SANTORUM!
Woo Hoo!
Santorum is NOT A RINO.
You couldn’t be more wrong...he’s the only one to show SHARP CONTRAST to O’Jackass.
Santorum, of the conservatives remaining, is the one with the least baggage in terms of abandoning conservatism at times over his career - Rush Limbaugh, 02/07/2012
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/02/07/santorum_is_sneaking_up
I agree Santorum would be dead meat against O, so I’d love a brokered convention.
Those very same pink nazis have been gunning for Santorum for the better part of two decades, and apart from google bombing his last name, have damaged little more than their own credibility.
Yeah, sometimes the truth is hard to respond to.
Rush won’t say it outright, but he’s sure making a great conservative case for Santorum today.
Oh no? Explain this:
Santorum:
Voted AGAINST increasing the number of immigration investigators:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00201
VOTED AGAINST HIRING AN ADDITIONAL 1,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS, paid for by reductions in state grants.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00179
VOTED TO GIVE SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=105&session=1&vote=00058
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00154
SANTORUM: Trim Social Security now- even if painful.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j7O34Bpp42k-IlMMNiOLBkYF2zNw?docId=b1cff9ecefe24ca6ae1764a09761e361
VOTED AGAINST FOOD STAMP REFORM
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00353
VOTED AGAINST MEDICAID REFORM
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00352
Voted to increase the social services block grant from $1 BILLION to $2 BILLION
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00302
VOTED TO RAID SOCIAL SECURITY instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00056
Voted to impose a uniform federal tax mandate on states to force them to allow convicted , rapists, arsonists drug kingpins and all other ex-convicts to vote in federal elections.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00031
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Santorum; Big government spender:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt6XCZz2X1Y&feature=player_embedded
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Santorum needs to put his country before his ego and drop out.
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The telling thing with these results is the amount Mitt has lost support from 2008. HEY R-e - do you get it yet? ANYBODY but Mitt!! Let’s go for a brokered convention and Sarah will lead the way against the Obamination.
Don’t leave God or the power of prayer out of this election. BO CAN be beaten.
However, in this presidential election, I've had to let those hard feelings go. Just like I had to let Newt's record of serial adultery go. I see people on here complaining about the Specter debacle but my assessment is that the folks doing the Specter fingerpointing have a strong preference for someone other than Rick Santorum in the race and they're trying to rile up old distasteful feelings.
I doubt they ever felt the personal loss that I felt over that endorsement. Check my posting history. I haven't let too many opportunities pass to bash Rick over the head for his support of Specter. If I can let it go, anyone can let it go.
I am currently trying to figure out who is more electable - Newt or Rick? My wife is solidly in Santorum's camp. I'm probably leaning Santorum, but if Newt's got an edge coming into the PA primary, I'm not going to risk Romney winning by voting for Santorum if he's going to be an also ran.
I would post all the Gingrich big gov. links that if it came down too it Gingrich is is far worse but it is not allowed on this forum.So you and I cannot have a fair debate because all Gingrich postings that do not bow to him are forbidden.We have got no real non DC insider.We have no political savior.None of them are perfect.I could post links about the furthest right conservative that are none too pleasant to see wanting to be Romney’s VP.
Gingrich may be the one that puts country first and bows out.
We don't have to worry about that anymore. Santorum (like Newt) won't owe anyone in the Republican establishment any favors. Either one of these guys will really be able to do right by the country.
You are ignoring the fact that the reason Santorum supported Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey was, that Specter was the chairman for the judicial and the nominations of Samuel Anthony Alito, Jr., Associate Justice, and John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice of the United States, who were both nominated by President Bush was at stake. With out Arlen Specter, they would have never made it.
You are ignoring the fact that the reason Santorum supported Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey was, that Specter was the chairman for the judicial and the nominations of Samuel Anthony Alito, Jr., Associate Justice, and John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice of the United States, who were both nominated by President Bush was at stake. With out Arlen Specter, they would have never made it.
That’s what attracted me to him in the first place.
Unlike what Newt got for his Dede Scuzzyflava support...ZIP, ZERO, NADA!
Welcome to Freerepublic and thanks for the link
GO RICK GO
Are you sure you aint a liberal Yankee ?
Santorum is the ONLY conservative anti-establishment choice ! Everyone is so beat down by the media that they digest all that "cant win against Obama so you better pick a republican liberal" bullcrap,,,,,,,
NEWS FLASH ! even the blacks hate obama, they are just stuck with him like we get stuck with our Republican turds
Are you sure you aint a liberal Yankee ?
Santorum is the ONLY conservative anti-establishment choice ! Everyone is so beat down by the media that they digest all that "cant win against Obama so you better pick a republican liberal" bullcrap,,,,,,,
NEWS FLASH ! even the blacks hate obama, they are just stuck with him like we get stuck with our Republican turds
And Callista doesn’t help matters much- what is that supposed to mean?
Gingrich needs to honorably drop out. He is trailing women voters by 20-points or more in poll after poll. He has sky-high unfavorability ratings, he gets trounced by Obama in the recent USA-Gallup by over 12-points, and carries the $1.6m Freddie Mae albatross around his neck. If nothing else, he will sooner or later self-implode like the proposal to colonize the moon. With Santorums clean sweep especially in bellweather MO where he carried every county, it is now abundantly clear that Santorum is the only realistic alternative to Romney. Time to get on to this bandwagon.
Gingrich needs to honorably drop out. He is trailing women voters by 20-points or more in poll after poll. He has sky-high unfavorability ratings, he gets trounced by Obama in the recent USA-Gallup by over 12-points, and carries the $1.6m Freddie Mae albatross around his neck. If nothing else, he will sooner or later self-implode like the proposal to colonize the moon. With Santorums clean sweep especially in bellweather MO where he carried every county, it is now abundantly clear that Santorum is the only realistic alternative to Romney. Time to get on to this bandwagon.
Santorum did a much more stupid, damned thing in 2008, when he endorsed Mitt Romney.
What he said then: "I think Romney, when he decided to run, hes a smart business guy, and he sort of got his team together and said, What do I need to do to be the conservative candidate? and give me the checklist and see if I can check them off. And I think over the course of this campaign, you know, I saw the migration from the checklist to his head and from his head into his heart and I really believe thats where he is today.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/223582/romney-santorum-2008/mark-hemingway
This will play against him in the conservative electorate, I am sure.
Why did he prefer Romney? This is the question.
Santorum is rightly attacking Romneycare in 2012, BUT supported Romney in 2008, when Mitt signed Romneycare in ... 2006! It is that more damning in 2012 than it was in 2008?
It makes no sense, for a genuine conservative candidate to have endorsed Romney. He could very well keep his mouth shut and not endorse anyone.
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