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Posted on 02/08/2012 10:20:08 AM PST by pabianice
We once heard the Safeway loudspeaker announce that they now had recycled TP. We wondered how they skimmed it off the surface of the water treatment plant in order to recycle it. Maybe these EnvironMentalists are experts in that.
Why aren't they worried about Plumas County's mountain lion population.
Somebody TP’d Tiger Woods’ house?
What?
My company was bought by GP and after about 3 years sold. But being part of them was interesting (good and bad). Very familiar with their products and mills.
When the Koch Brothers bought them they had just bought Fort James (Howard) and the government stepped in and forced them to sell us.
This would not be correct. The retail TP you buy, Charmin, Cottonelle, etc is made with 100% virgin paper I have never heard that newsprint was ever added.
Most what we call “Away from home” TP, the kind that is used in office building, hospitals, etc is 100% recycled stock and even in it we never used newsprint. The fibers are too short for much else than newspapers.
Old growth is always used for lumber. Retail TP which requires virgin fiber in this country comes from fast growing pine.
If this article was about China the above would be wrong. China was and is shipping commodity TP, towels and napkins over here as we speak. Guess where they get the scrap paper to accomplish this, the USA. And you ask how can they possibly get what we call “ledger” ship it to China and then have it come back here. All those empty containers that carry the Chinese crap over here have to get back to China and shipping them empty actually endangers the ships coming back empty, so they fill them with scrap paper over here for just about nothing.
It drives our scrap prices through the roof but it's still cheaper for them because they don't generate scrap paper like we do. Sorry for the long explanation.
You’re correct about such long trips for a freight intensive product like toilet paper, but they are probably just keeping their economic boat afloat while their markets develop closer to the producers.
I think you’re on the money about them dumping product to keep their machines running. But, the Chinese are building a one World Class paper machine every week and they are shipping commodity towels tissue and napkins over here. They haven’t made a major impact yet, but they have their foot in the Away from Home market. Worst part of the deal is they’re getting their scrap paper from us.
I have never heard of or seen either brand this mentions.
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