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Officer who beat motorist on video identified
fox5vegas.com ^ | 8 Feb 2012 | Matt Guillermo

Posted on 02/08/2012 12:39:58 PM PST by DariusBane

Edited on 02/08/2012 1:33:22 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

HENDERSON, NV (FOX5) - One of the officers videotaped beating a man during a traffic stop was identified Wednesday as a 9-year veteran of Henderson police.

Sgt. Brett Seekatz was one of the officers videotaped beating Adam Greene near Lake Mead Boulevard and Boulder Highway in 2010, according to Keith Paul with Henderson police.


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You can see more detail about this story by following the link to Las Vegas Review Journal from the Drudge Report under "Video shows officers beating motorist in diabetic shock.

This highly paid officer, Sgt Seekatz, who in return for beating the crap out of citizens was paid $109,460 dollars in 2010. The Henderson P.D. pulled over Mr. Greene who was driving erratically. Mr. Greene, who was in diabetic shock and seizure was unable to follow officer commands. He was subsequently pulled out of his vehicle and beaten, and beaten until somebody found the insulin syringe in his pocket.

What I find interesting is that after finding the syringes non of the cops seemed the least bit worried about what they had just done. They were pretty confident that the "system" would protect them. The joviality evidenced says that beating up citizens is just good fun and a perk of the job.

This kind of incident happens all over the country, every night in a country of 300 million plus. Nobody really sweats the occasional mistaken beating by cops. No biggie I guess.

But I am ashamed to pay these guys. Ashamed to support them. Ashamed of what they are doing in my name with my tax dollars.

The other story today that was interesting to me was congress approving the wide spread use of drones for domestic surveillance. Big Brother is here. He is entrenched. He is widely supported, even here at Free Republic. These kinds of issues have no traction in the political debates of an election year. So were are we headed in "This Land of Liberty"? I don't know. But it's not good.

1 posted on 02/08/2012 12:40:04 PM PST by DariusBane
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To: DariusBane

There are those on FR who say we could never become a police state cause cops would NEVER turn on us. I say they already have!


2 posted on 02/08/2012 12:43:57 PM PST by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: DariusBane
An accomplished young man is killed by police outside a Vegas Costco, and bystander accounts starkly contrast with official reports.

It could have been a lot worse.

3 posted on 02/08/2012 12:50:06 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: DariusBane

What could be the justification offered for the beating?

It seems to me if there’s “reason to believe” the person stopped isintending battery or other harm, then, MAYBE “discipline”,”counceling”, etc. is in order.

If there is no such “reason to believe” then I think it should be treated as criminal A&B.


4 posted on 02/08/2012 12:50:33 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: DariusBane
Seekatz is still working for the police department, although officials said he was disciplined following the beating.

Yeah, he has to go out to get the donuts for the next week.

5 posted on 02/08/2012 12:50:56 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Have Regrets Because At The Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: packrat35

$109,000 for a cop?? Please....


6 posted on 02/08/2012 12:52:10 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: DariusBane

It used to be a valid claim that there were one or two bad apples in the bunch on a force the size of Vegas/Henderson. Now if looks like urban PD’s (and more than a few suburbsn PD’s) have about a 50/50 ratio of people spring-loaded to the assault position. I think this going to get worse.


7 posted on 02/08/2012 12:55:37 PM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: DariusBane
This kind of incident happens all over the country, every night in a country of 300 million plus. Nobody really sweats the occasional mistaken beating by cops. No biggie I guess.

On a percentage basis is the problem getting better or worse?

8 posted on 02/08/2012 12:55:45 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: packrat35
There are those on FR who say we could never become a police state cause cops would NEVER turn on us. I say they already have!

And there are many on FR who ignore all of the acts of bravery and self sacrifice of good Cops as if they don't happen or never existed.


9 posted on 02/08/2012 12:56:33 PM PST by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: DariusBane
The cop does need to get fired. Walking in and kicking a guy in the head isn't serving any purpose in controlling the person on the ground. If he wanted to help he would have grabbed and controlled a limb or moved to offline the persons head.

In federal use of force policy kicks to the head are considered deadly force.

10 posted on 02/08/2012 12:58:30 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: DariusBane

9mm manhoods.


11 posted on 02/08/2012 1:00:09 PM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: Mad Dawg

Apparently beating the crap out of people the Police make contact with is just S.O.P. in many jurisdictions.

Henderson is apparently paying Sgt’s six figure compensation to beat abuse motorist. Seems like a great deal of money for the amount of education and technical complexity that a Police Officer needs to have.

In the private sector, a six figure compensation requires doing a job that most cannot do, and working very very long hours.

This guy is just another Police Sgt. A job that anybody who has run a taco bell crew could successfully navigate.


12 posted on 02/08/2012 1:01:01 PM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: frogjerk
Then there are many here who are capable of recognizing & praising acts of bravery & sacrifice by LEOs on one hand, and criticise exampes of poor policing and inappropriate uses of force on the other.

Thank God we still have the freedom to publically point out the distinction.

13 posted on 02/08/2012 1:02:56 PM PST by skeeter
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To: frogjerk
Then there are many here who are capable of recognizing & praising acts of bravery & sacrifice by LEOs on one hand, and criticise exampes of poor policing and inappropriate uses of force on the other.

Thank God we still have the freedom to publically point out the distinction.

14 posted on 02/08/2012 1:02:56 PM PST by skeeter
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To: frogjerk

Lot’s of secretaries died. As did middle managers. Top managers. How many died sacrificing themselves to save others we will never know. The only difference is they don’t get a plaque like the public service sector people get.

Heroism is everywhere. Corruption is everywhere. Cowardice is everywhere. Sacrifice is everywhere. Avarice is everywhere.

Private sector keeps the wheels on the wagon. Public sector gets awards.

I would rather be a producer, working behind the scenes than a consumer any day.


16 posted on 02/08/2012 1:06:25 PM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Mad Dawg

I was appalled by the train of logic I heard used by police when I served on a jury last year.

They managed to justify leaving their patrol area, after their shift was over at one in the morning, go onto a private property on a secluded driveway, waking the property owner who was passed out in the front seat of his truck listening to the radio, arrest him for DUI, have his CDL terminated for a year because he would not take a breath test.

The cops and the state were so intent on proving the guy was drunk, they forgot to worry about whether it was any of their business , or what they were doing to prove it.

We found him not guilty faster than it took them to reassemble the court to read our verdict.


17 posted on 02/08/2012 1:07:34 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Moonman62

That’s a good question, “is the problem getting better or worse”.

I know stories have always been “out their” of dirty deeds done by the Public sector.

But the casual attitude of the Police evidenced in the video pisses me off. Whether better or worse I can’t say. I can say it is embarrassing and unacceptable.


18 posted on 02/08/2012 1:10:48 PM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane; Larry Lucido

Only three years on the job and already a Sargeant? Must be somebody’s fair-haired boy.


19 posted on 02/08/2012 1:11:35 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: frogjerk

Are those acts suppose to give immunity from violations of our civil rights committed under the color of authority?


20 posted on 02/08/2012 1:12:20 PM PST by papertyger
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To: DariusBane

Wonder what ever happened to those computer CD’s that had video, that didn’t exist, that got sent to LA to see if the Hollywood Techs could ‘clear’ it up ?


21 posted on 02/08/2012 1:14:01 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: muir_redwoods
It used to be a valid claim that there were one or two bad apples in the bunch on a force the size of Vegas/Henderson.

It's no so much that - as it is hard to keep bad apples out of any organization. It's that when one of these events occur, the 'thin blue line' locks arms to protect the 'bad apples'. As a consequence they all become complicit.
If these events happened, and the rest of the constabulary sought to evict the offenders - they'd give evidence that these were aberrations. Instead, every bad shooting was due to a 'furtive movement'; or the person had it coming by not following commands ... but due to no fault by the thuggish actions by men in blue.

22 posted on 02/08/2012 1:14:46 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael; DariusBane

OOPS. Post 21 was meant for W of C, not Darius.

My bad.


23 posted on 02/08/2012 1:18:25 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: frogjerk

You have to keep in mind that this is becoming the norm in more and more cities and towns across the US. It used to be most of the cops could be like an Irish Wolfhound - nice and caring to the law-abiding and mean enough to the criminals that the criminals didn’t want to mess with them. Now the cops are becoming more and more like feral pit bulls with bad breeding.

The motto of many of these police departments should be

“Comply or fry” (using a taser)
or
“Comply or die” (with a beating, by taser, or firearm).

It’s now SOP for many police departments to kill dogs on the way to taking down perceived or real criminals. I will not be surprised in the not-so-distant future when the cops are get involved in a law enforcement action their SOP will be to just kill everyone who might be involved in a possible crime. And anyone taking video of them? Kill them.

Like Stalin used to say, “No man, no problem!”
What police officer or criminal justice system or dictatorship can resist those kind of words?


24 posted on 02/08/2012 1:22:10 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: papertyger

Bravo to you and the rest of the jury. Good job.

I hope the cops were peeved. I hope the judge gave them and the prosecutor a hard time.


25 posted on 02/08/2012 1:29:07 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: papertyger

Good for you. That’s just plain weird.


26 posted on 02/08/2012 1:47:50 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: DariusBane

That cop should be fired for what he did.Someone could die from this when put under duress lie this.They really need to train them to be able to tell the difference because people have died from being thrown into a cell thinking they were drunk when their blood sugar was way too low.


27 posted on 02/08/2012 1:51:01 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: DariusBane

I would distinguish between what a Police Sgt OUGHT to be able to do and the training he OUGHT to have and what they actually get.

First, a fish rots from its head. A good chief should be on top of training and continuing ed. Lots of chiefs aren’t.

Second, unions interfere with professional pride and expertise. They enable the rot to start further down the trunk because the head is rendered feckless.

One year, for kicks, I took a job as “postmaster relief” in a small rural PO. I had to go to the big city where I received training (watching videos) almost entirely unrelated to my job. At one point I snuck out for a potty break and saw the three guys who were supposedly training us watching videos on a computer.


28 posted on 02/08/2012 1:51:50 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: chris_bdba

He will not be fired.


29 posted on 02/08/2012 1:59:00 PM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: SkyDancer
Yeah, he has to go out to get the donuts for the next week.


30 posted on 02/08/2012 2:02:46 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: DariusBane
following the link to Las Vegas Review Journal from the Drudge Report under "Video shows officers beating motorist in diabetic shock.

How about saving us time and posting the link yourself.......

31 posted on 02/08/2012 2:14:12 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: frogjerk

Are you saying this officer’s actions were comparable to LEO’s actions during 9-11?

Likewise do you consider the diabetic’s behavior comparable to the 9-11 hijackers?


32 posted on 02/08/2012 2:30:01 PM PST by Justa
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To: USNBandit
The cop does need to get fired.

He doesn't need to get fired; he needs to be imprisoned for reckless endangerment or attempted murder.

33 posted on 02/08/2012 2:34:25 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Of course there were always a (very) few bad apples who made it through the pre-employmnet-as-a-cop screening process. There have also always been a (very) few who “went off the tracks” after deployment due to personal problems.

HOWEVER, I am convinced that if one were to chart the incidents of SERIOUS misbehavior against the public at large, one would find that the “knee” occurred at the point in time when it became “cop-fashion” to emulate the very shaved head human debris they were supposed to be protecting us from.

As they adopted that persona, so they adopted the worst characteristics of that group.

IMHO


34 posted on 02/08/2012 3:17:57 PM PST by CanuckYank
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To: Hot Tabasco; All

“Why not post the link directly”

Due to copyright complaints freerepublic will not post links with Las Vegas Review Journal.


35 posted on 02/08/2012 3:19:10 PM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: frogjerk

You do know what a goad is, don’t you? With that unwise post you just INFLAMED the honest emotions folks have in reaction to this article.


36 posted on 02/08/2012 3:22:54 PM PST by bvw
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To: UCANSEE2
Find those CD's?

First they'll find those tape copies of our top secret nuclear weapons that Wen Ho Lee made and "misplaced;" and, I believe, he's been sending the FBI on wild-goose chases per his promise to try to remember where he put them (besides some jail time that was his only punishment -- too many people screaming "Racism!" to do otherwise.)

I am reminded of Another Case of 'Contagious Fire'(shooting in Compton) and that reminded me of something that I posted on that thread; to wit,

There was a case a few years ago in L.A. where a businessman became disoriented and stopped on a freeway overpass. He called his wife telling her he had no idea where he was. He thought he had driven into a remote mountainous area. He had experienced the problem prior to this incident.

I don't remember how things got out of hand but eventually the police became convinced that the situation was extremely dangerous and from a distance ordered him to drive his car off the freeway to a nearby street.

There other police joined and surrounded the car at a distance.

I heard about the incident from The Radio Detective (Jerry Pearce) show. Mr. Pearce, a long-time law enforcement officer, sheriff's deputy and private investigator interviewed a relative of the man and had a copy of the coroner's report.

The police started firing when the man opened the car's trunk and appeared to have a weapon. It turned out to be an air rifle, I believe. I believe that the man was hit by at least 150 rounds any one of 50 rounds would have killed him.

I do not remember enough info to search successfully. Even with the man's name I believe that I found only one news article (in a foreign newspaper) about the incident at the time.

In case you don't know, you can't get more conservative, pro-police than Jerry Pearce.

End of quotes.

I really did find only one item about it but it was in an newspaper, English-languish newspaper in Red China. There was no editing to make it worse than what it was.. the article described exactly what Mr. Pearce reported.

37 posted on 02/08/2012 3:30:39 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Moonman62

“On a percentage basis is the problem getting better or worse?”

Worse for the guy who just got his @ss beat by the cop.

Is 1% OK with you? 2%? What percentage is OK?


38 posted on 02/08/2012 3:30:55 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: goseminoles

‘$109,000 for a cop?? Please....”


Why not?


39 posted on 02/08/2012 3:38:29 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: frogjerk
And there are many on FR who ignore all of the acts of bravery and self sacrifice of good Cops as if they don't happen or never existed.

Any good cops would be among those screaming the loudest about such corruption. Do you hear any?

40 posted on 02/08/2012 3:38:47 PM PST by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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To: al_c

Must have smelled them before he saw the truck.


41 posted on 02/08/2012 3:40:19 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Have Regrets Because At The Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: USNBandit
In federal use of force policy kicks to the head are considered deadly force.

kicking with a shod foot is crimminal in most jurisdictions. Karate-Ka watch yourselves. You could be charged defending yourself with a crime.

42 posted on 02/08/2012 3:44:31 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: DariusBane
will not post links with Las Vegas Review Journal.

You mentioned the Drudge Report link, how about finding that and posting it?

43 posted on 02/08/2012 3:49:44 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: Mears

Why not?

Because they’re not worth that much.


44 posted on 02/08/2012 4:08:28 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Mears

$109k for a cop job represents wage inflation. The level of technical proficiency required to be a cop or a cop supervisor does not warrent that wage. A GED and experience running 3rd shift at a Tacobell will suffice.

No economic value is created by Police so it can’t be measured that way.

Economics say that somebody would do the job for half the price. Collective bargaining, corruption and federal dollars pouring into local p.d.’s could account for that fat wage. But technical requirements and education requirements cannot justify the wage when compared to the private sector.

Add to the equation the fact that you can’t be fired from the job short of screwing crack whores on the Mayors desk during a live newscast and the wage is just hard to justify. Political patronage, corruption, greek style entitlement and Union thuggery do explain the high wage for a low skilled job with little economic value.


45 posted on 02/08/2012 4:14:14 PM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: papertyger
The cops and the state were so intent on proving the guy was drunk, they forgot to worry about whether it was any of their business , or what they were doing to prove it.
We found him not guilty faster than it took them to reassemble the court to read our verdict.

Other than finding the guy not guilty, is there anything the jury could recommend on penalizing the police? Seems to me that they can pull anything like this and the worst than can happen to them is to have their "criminal" found not guilty.

IMO, we need something like "Not Guilty, With Prejudice" (against the authorities). i.e. Paying of defendant's legal fees, automatic fine, loss of rank or outright termination for the officer(s), plus automatic fines levied against the PD. A couple of findings like that and these types of abuses would evaporate.

46 posted on 02/08/2012 4:19:03 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Why don’t you do it yourself. This issue appears to be of considerable importance to you and I suspect you will feel better for it.


47 posted on 02/08/2012 4:20:32 PM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: APatientMan
Worse for the guy who just got his @ss beat by the cop.

I imagine his $292,500 settlement is making him feel better.

Is 1% OK with you? 2%? What percentage is OK?

Do you expect the world to be a perfect place?

48 posted on 02/08/2012 4:23:50 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: DariusBane

Hendersen is a Hell hole.


49 posted on 02/08/2012 4:24:56 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: frogjerk

“...who ignore all of the acts of bravery and self sacrifice of good Cops as if they don’t happen or never existed.”

No offense intended, FRiend, but isn’t that what they get paid to do? Serve and protect the public? Not beat the living shiite out us.

Furthermore, I’m tired of hearing LEO’s complain about how tough and dangerous their job is. Hell, nobody forced them to become cops. Yet they demand more money and benefits every year “because their job is so dangerous and demanding.” PULLLEEEAAASSSEE!

FYI...I’m not an electrician, but their job is more dangerous than an LEO’s. Do you have any idea how many journeymen electricians die every year in the while doing their job? I’m not going to give you the answer; but it is readily available. Look it up. It’s far more than all LEO’s and Firefighters that die or are injured, combined nation-wide. Yet we don’t give them outrageous pay and benefits, nor do we allow them to beat the crap out of, shoot, tase and kill people with impunity.

If any LEO doesn’t like his/her job, the pay and the risks involved with it, then they should pick another profession, and quit bitchin’. The world needs dishwashers and garbage collectors, too.


50 posted on 02/08/2012 4:38:35 PM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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