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'Woolly mammoth' spotted in Siberia
The Sun - UK ^ | Wed Feb 08, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 02/08/2012 2:52:34 PM PST by Red Badger

A BEAST lurches through icy waters in a sighting a paranormal investigator thinks could prove woolly mammoths are not extinct after all.

The animal – thought to have mostly died out roughly 4,000 years ago – was apparently filmed wading through a river in the freezing wilds of Siberia.

The jaw-dropping footage was caught by a government-employed engineer last summer in the Chukotka Autonomous Okrug region of Siberia, it is claimed.

He filmed the elephant-sized creature as it struggled against the racing water.

Its hair matches samples recovered from mammoth remains regularly dug up from the permafrost in frozen Russia.

The official was reportedly in the area surveying for a planned road.

Paranormal writer Michael Cohen said: "Rumours of a handful of mammoths still kicking around in the vast wilderness of Siberia have been circulating for decades and occasionally sightings by locals have occurred.

"Siberia is an enormous territory and much of it remains completely unexplored and untouched by humans. "

Woolly mammoths roamed the Earth 10,000 years ago during the last Ice Age.

A small pocket remained on and around Wrangel Island, off the coast of Siberia, and these did not die out until 3,500 years ago.

Mr Cohen, 41, added: "It is highly possible that a number of species, extinct elsewhere, survive in the area.

"If surviving woolly mammoths were found in Siberia, it could run against Russia's plans to further develop and exploit the area's considerable resources.

"It would be potentially one of the greatest discoveries ever."

But viewers are divided on the nature of the animal seen in the video. Some have dismissed it as a hoax while others reckon it is an elephant lost in the Siberian wilderness. The third theory is the sighting shows a bear eating a huge fish. What do you think?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Russia
KEYWORDS: archaeology; cryptobiology; esmit; fossil; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; mammoth; mammoths; mammothtoldme; siberia; wrangelisland
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To: Red Badger

A bear with a fish.


51 posted on 02/08/2012 4:21:29 PM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion centers.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Am I the only one thinking GIANT MAMMOTH STEAKS?
3” thick, seared over a hot fire, dripping pink,
with a 25 lb baked potato and a galleon of sour cream?

A GALLEON OF SOUR CREAM!


52 posted on 02/08/2012 4:23:59 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: brytlea

Big Bear with big fish in mouth—thats my take—It lacks a hump that was part of a woolly mammoth.


53 posted on 02/08/2012 4:23:59 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Red Badger

“The Sun” is peer reviewed, right?


54 posted on 02/08/2012 4:27:31 PM PST by Grut
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To: Red Badger

If it looks like a bear and fishes like a bear and you are in bear country.......... it’s a bear.


55 posted on 02/08/2012 4:29:58 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Red Badger

If it looks like a bear and fishes like a bear and you are in bear country.......... it’s a bear.


56 posted on 02/08/2012 4:30:20 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Red Badger

One very big Brown Bear with a catch-of-a-lifetime salmon.


57 posted on 02/08/2012 4:37:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: tet68

I think a rowboat of sour cream would be adequate. As long as there was also a rowboat of fresh dairy butter. What about the horseradish though?


58 posted on 02/08/2012 4:41:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Red Badger

i’ll go with a bear with a fish in it’s mouth...


59 posted on 02/08/2012 4:43:13 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: Red Badger

It’s a bear with a salmon. If it WAS a mammoth, the guy with the camera would have gone downstream to get a closer shot but being a big Brown Bear, he was chicken poo to get any closer and I don’t blame him. Even a dumb Russian would have enough sense to follow a mammoth to get reliable proof of what would be a shattering historical photo that would make him famous.


60 posted on 02/08/2012 4:43:44 PM PST by fish hawk (Isa. 42:12 Let them give glory unto the Lord and declare his praise in the islands. (Maui))
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To: tet68

Please let it be true!


61 posted on 02/08/2012 4:56:00 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt Thn so one e Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: brytlea

yep - me too.

Big bear with big fish - fish that flops

no tusks, especially no curly Mammoth tusks.


62 posted on 02/08/2012 5:23:16 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: Red Badger

It’s a woolly mammoth with a fish in it’s mouth. Should be obvious to anyone.


63 posted on 02/08/2012 5:45:50 PM PST by Jay Santos CP ("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
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To: mamelukesabre

“You think every specimen is going to have those perfect enormous majestic tusks like depicted in the artists’ pictures? I can show you plenty of REAL elephant pics with short straight tusks.”

Do the tusks look like salmon?


64 posted on 02/08/2012 5:53:36 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Most Conservative in the Primary, the Republican Nominee in the General.)
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To: Red Badger


It's a big bear with a big fish.


65 posted on 02/08/2012 6:00:34 PM PST by Lady Jag (Laws are spider webs through which the big flies pass and the little ones get caught)
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To: mamelukesabre

Bear with a fish.


66 posted on 02/08/2012 6:06:19 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Red Badger

Bear.


67 posted on 02/08/2012 6:11:46 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Rebelbase

It’s a fish, dragging a bear with it’s tail. It sure ain’t a mammoth, wooly or otherwise. I was born in the morning, but not THIS morning.


68 posted on 02/08/2012 6:12:18 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: wintertime
No, under definition-enhancing and slight magnification, one can clearly make out the large, flapping pachyderm-type ears. It's either a mammoth, or a mammoth-elephant clone, or a whole new, extremely rare species.

It is not a bear with a big fish. What a highly unimaginative and banal dismissal of some of the most scientifically important footage in our lifetime, especially for so purportedly erudite and considered a cognoscenti.

Just damn.

;-\

I'm apalled.

69 posted on 02/08/2012 6:36:57 PM PST by Gargantua (Men are CREATED equal, but 21 years later... you get the picture.)
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To: Gargantua

My husband was born in Alaska. He told me the natives said the last Mammoth was seen in the 1800s. I posted this info a while back.


70 posted on 02/08/2012 6:53:42 PM PST by Cowgirl
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To: Gargantua

My husband was born in Alaska. He told me the natives said the last Mammoth was seen in the 1800s. I posted this info a while back.


71 posted on 02/08/2012 6:55:09 PM PST by Cowgirl
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To: maine-iac7

Yeah, it doesn’t seem that difficult to make the call.


72 posted on 02/08/2012 7:07:34 PM PST by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: Hot Tabasco
And if it WAS a bear, that would explain why the camera person chose not to pursue the animal in order to get a better picture........ Come on dude, you're potentially the first person alive on this planet who may be seeing a Woolly mammoth for the first time in a million years and you don't chase the thing down to get a close up video?

Exactly...if the dude thought it was really a mammoth there would be an hour of footage not 24 seconds.

73 posted on 02/08/2012 7:08:37 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Gargantua; Eaker
I am in Mexico and I took some pictures of a Chubacabra but I lost them. If you will meet me in Piedras Negras in El Mercado you can go with me and we will take some more, it will make us famous. You will know me when you see me, I am a big guy, 6'6” with bright red hair. Can't miss me.
Eaker will go with us.:D
74 posted on 02/08/2012 7:09:41 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Hunton Peck

That is just not right....


75 posted on 02/08/2012 7:10:09 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Red Badger; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Red Badger.
...a sighting a paranormal investigator thinks could prove woolly mammoths are not extinct after all.


To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


76 posted on 02/08/2012 7:10:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Red Badger

Definitely not a bear.

A wooly mammoth or an elephant.


77 posted on 02/08/2012 7:25:43 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: arthurus

That’s the key thing: it moves like an elephant.


78 posted on 02/08/2012 7:29:43 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: Red Badger

There’s a squatch in these woods!


79 posted on 02/08/2012 7:31:06 PM PST by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Gargantua

I spotted the flappy pachy ears without any definition-enhancement. Anyone thinking bear should take a second look for those ears.

I can see where someone would mistake it for a wooly mammoth with a salmon though:)


80 posted on 02/08/2012 7:37:34 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: wintertime

It’s a Wooley Mammoth with a Bear in its mouth. The majestic tusks of course were sawed off by ivory hunters. They did it while it was sleeping because it was the last one and they couldn’t bring themselves to kill it.


81 posted on 02/08/2012 7:39:20 PM PST by albionin
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To: Ronin

Yeah, it looks like a bear ... and from the size of it I wouldn’t want to meet it. Out there in Siberiland, bears will roll rocks down hills at railway workers and survey teams. That’s tool use, baby, and it means there may be an Einstein or two among the lumbering bears way out there.


82 posted on 02/08/2012 7:41:25 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Red Badger
'Woolly mammoth' spotted


83 posted on 02/08/2012 7:43:29 PM PST by mikrofon (Drunken cameraman?)
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To: DNA.2012
That’s the key thing: it moves like an elephant.

When you can't see its bottom half because it's hip-deep in moving water, anything moves like an elephant.

84 posted on 02/08/2012 8:20:06 PM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: mamelukesabre

Zero doubt that it in the elephant species category.

That would mean Asian elephant or African elephant, and neither of those have ever been reported that far north.

It’s a mammoth!!

I’m 99% convinced.

As it’s pointed out in the article, Siberia is a HUGE area... makes Alaska look like Rhode Island or something.

The fact that it’s a road engineer makes it likely there are not many roads there, which means very few people...


85 posted on 02/08/2012 8:35:40 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: Red Badger

I can’t believe I wasted my time to go look at a “Wooly Mammoth” video on the “Sun” site, but I did. Floppy fish in a bear’s mouth for goodness sake. *sigh*


86 posted on 02/08/2012 8:44:21 PM PST by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: Cowgirl

Native americans claim they hunted mammoths only 500 years ago IN THE LOWER 48!

I don’t believe it though. I think the stories come from the frozen specimens they find in thawing glaciers. THAT is a known fact that they ate frozen mammoth meat only a couple hundred years ago.

btw, so far I do NOT believe this is a bear in the vid. It is a pachyderm of some kind, IMO.


87 posted on 02/08/2012 8:47:36 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: djf

I don’t know what to think. Its seems so impossible this thing is a mammoth. But it just does NOT look like a bear. Bears have pointier snouts. Their heads are lower. Their legs are not that long. It looks like a young elephant with very short tusks to me. I suppose the white area that I think is a short tusk could be the white underbelly of a fish. The flappy thing that looks like a pachyderm ear could be a patch of molting bear fur blowing in the breeze.


88 posted on 02/08/2012 8:56:57 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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Clearly, this is just an animal that escaped from a zoo or circus, or was kept as an exotic pet until it was too expensive to feed and too difficult to control.

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89 posted on 02/08/2012 9:01:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

And if it WAS a bear, that would explain why the camera person chose not to pursue the animal in order to get a better picture........
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Riiiight!

Because a wild elephant is SOOOOO much safer than a wild bear.

Dude, that was really lame logic there.


90 posted on 02/08/2012 9:04:58 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: SunkenCiv

Clearly, this is just an animal that escaped from a zoo or circus, or was kept as an exotic pet until it was too expensive to feed and too difficult to control.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

They have woolly mammoths in zoos and circuses?

lol


91 posted on 02/08/2012 9:08:32 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

;’)


92 posted on 02/08/2012 9:09:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s a Siberian River Shark trying to eat the face off of a fat moose!


93 posted on 02/08/2012 9:11:45 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: mamelukesabre

It is absolutely, positively, NOT a bear. A bear crossing in water like that would look longer, in fact he would probably be swimming and not walking.
Also, the form of a bear that might live in that area would resemble most closely a grizzly or Kodiak bear. Bears of that type, the head and snout is an extension of the shoulders and hump, quite pointy like if you look at them in profile.

This has a predominant head on a definite neck.

Not a bear. Not a chance!


94 posted on 02/08/2012 9:11:52 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: Red Badger

Maybe that bear was really hot for a John West salmon ;^)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_Ca6pQL18Y


95 posted on 02/08/2012 9:13:27 PM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: Red Badger
Next thing we know, a mini-me mammoth will be available at the nearest Novosibirsk tourist trap.

I am confident Putin will hunt him down.


96 posted on 02/08/2012 9:28:33 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Daffynition

Wow, I didn’t realize mammoths shaved their legs!


97 posted on 02/08/2012 9:31:10 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

98 posted on 02/08/2012 9:42:07 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: djf
How a bear w/ a salmon can look like a mammoth .....


99 posted on 02/08/2012 9:45:06 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Revolting cat!
Tell me true... You're in Siberia...probably consumed 7-8 liters of Wodka before breakfast...what do you think it looks like? A wooly mammoth.


100 posted on 02/08/2012 9:53:32 PM PST by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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