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How disastrous was Santorumís endorsement of Specter? Can you say "Obamacare?"
Legal Insurrection ^ | December 30, 2011 | William A. Jacobson

Posted on 02/08/2012 3:37:31 PM PST by red flanker

Rick Santorum backed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey in 2004. It was a tough race with Toomey mounting a credible, well-financed challenge.

Toomey’s candidacy, by his own estimation, was one of the precursors to the Tea Party movement:

The “battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party” between big spending moderates and committed conservatives that was evident in 2004 may have inspired subsequent Tea Party efforts, Toomey suggested. Despite losing out on key endorsements from leading Republican figures in 2004, Toomey believes his primary campaign created a strong foundation for conservative activism that translated into victory in 2010.

Santorum not only backed Specter, he cut a commercial for him.

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When you compare the negative impact of what Santorum or Gingrich endorsements and support had on political races, Rick is the one that helped Specter put ObomneyCare around every American's neck.




1 posted on 02/08/2012 3:37:35 PM PST by red flanker
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To: red flanker; mickie

This has been a big problem for me for a long time...


2 posted on 02/08/2012 3:42:05 PM PST by MVV (Proud USMC Mom!!)
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To: red flanker

Can you say Supreme Court Justices Roberts and Alito, which Specter pushed through as part of the deal with Santorum?


3 posted on 02/08/2012 3:42:29 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: red flanker

Here come the media attacks..

I’m from Pa. And no one was more p.O.’d than me over Toomey not being elected sooner. But you know what? He’s there now. I’m over it. Santorum also sided with unions on right to work legislation back then. You know what? I’m over it. This state has a large blue collar work force. Right to work or not...we have a lot more unemployed than we did in 2008.

If that is the best they can come up with...just sayin.


4 posted on 02/08/2012 3:42:38 PM PST by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!!!!!!!! 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron falls,)
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To: red flanker

I’m trying not to laugh that they somehow believe those two situations are equal. I am VERY sure that Romney endorsed a whole lot of bad apples. Why don’t they list those?


5 posted on 02/08/2012 3:42:59 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: red flanker

and Toomey gave us gays in the military


6 posted on 02/08/2012 3:43:13 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: red flanker
Hey, RomneyBOT. Get it straight. OBAMACARE=ROMNEYCARE.

IS THIS THE GREATEST MOMENT IN AMERICAN CONSERVATISM?

YOU ARE THERE

THE IMPOSITION OF OBAMACARE/ROMNEYCARE
AND DEATH PANELS BY MYTH ROMNEY


7 posted on 02/08/2012 3:45:17 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: SueRae

Nevermind the fact that Toomey has proven to be less Conservative than advertised...he voted to repeal DADT and was one of the key GOP Senate players in the failed “Super Committee.”


8 posted on 02/08/2012 3:45:42 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

Can you say Supreme Court Justices Roberts and Alito, which Specter pushed through as part of the deal with Santorum?

First time I have heard this. Please, more information!


9 posted on 02/08/2012 3:46:01 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: red flanker

You are exactly right. And if you read the excerpts from Catch The Flag - A diary of presidential impeachment - you will see that Sanctimonium and Trent Lott were best friends in selling out the House republicans... and blocking their strategy that might very well have been successful...

But mostly, because of Sanctimonium et al - the Women never got to speak... and things in this country might be vastly different now. No, Rick, some of us don’t forget. I’m just learning the history now, and I know I won’t ever forget.

http://freedomist.com/2012/01/santorum-kills-impeachment-proceeding-against-bill-clinton-conservative-purity-in-name-only-exposed/


10 posted on 02/08/2012 3:47:21 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: Timber Rattler

I read somewhere recently that Santorum’s support for Specter was payback for Specter’s help during Santorum’s first senate campaign. Evidently he would never have been elected without Arlen’s financial/political support.

Just found it, article by Michael Barone:
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/why-did-santorum-endorse-specter-2004/287596


11 posted on 02/08/2012 3:48:02 PM PST by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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To: red flanker
Lot's of people endorsed Spector over the years even though he was originally a Philly Rat. This whole argument that an endorsement 6 years before a vote on legislation can be connected is irrational.


12 posted on 02/08/2012 3:50:12 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: red flanker

I’ve long sense learned that endorsements don’t mean jack around here. Palin endorsed McCain, and folks couldn’t have cared less. Her radio spot for him ran for over four months non-stop on the top two talk radio stations in the state.

I would like to hear Santorum’s reasoning behind the endorsement, and even an apology if the reasoning was as unsound as it seems to be.


13 posted on 02/08/2012 3:50:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: red flanker
Weak Romney hit piece arriving at gate 4. Romneycare was the template for Obamacare. Newt advocated government mandated healthcare. We can thank Santorum for Justices Alito & Roberts. We can thank Toomey for gays now serving openly in the military and the soon to be announced gay weddings officiated by military Chaplin's.
14 posted on 02/08/2012 3:51:37 PM PST by FresnoRobert (When born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live your life so that when you die, it's reversed.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I have faith in Toomey, though. The supercommittee was a disastrous idea.

We in Pa. are planning on sending him some help in November. My hope (and money) is on Sam Rohrer.


15 posted on 02/08/2012 3:51:39 PM PST by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!!!!!!!! 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron falls,)
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To: true believer forever

That link is nothing but one big lie.


16 posted on 02/08/2012 3:52:19 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: true believer forever

um, Clinton was impeached by the House, and tried by the Senate but not removed.
Many people were uncomfortable with impeachment of a sitting president, it is a road many just did not want to go down.
Interesting grudge to hold in the scheme of things, however.


17 posted on 02/08/2012 3:52:42 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: marstegreg
From the link in #11 below:

"Santorum says he is proud of backing Specter because in 2005 and 2006 Specter, as Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, shepherded the confirmations of Judge John Roberts and Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court. That’s a fair enough defense, and Specter in fact did a fine job on those hearings. Remember how he interjected, “Senator Kennedy, let the judge answer the question.” When Arlen Specter is on your side, he can be very effective."

18 posted on 02/08/2012 3:54:43 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: red flanker

Mad at Santorum over Specter? What Would Reagan Do?
By Chet Arthur

What would President Reagan do if he had had a good conservative challenging Sen. Arlen Specter in a primary in Pennsylvania?  Former Sen. Rick Santorum is taking a lot of heat in his presidential campaign for backing the RINO Specter over true-blue conservative Pat Toomey in 2004.  We need more conservatives like Ronald Reagan. 

I agree.  But let’s remember what Reagan actually did.  In 1982, Sen. Lowell Weicker (R-Conn.) faced a possible challenge from Prescott Bush, Jr., elder brother of Reagan’s vice president.  “God himself could not keep me from challenging Lowell Weicker,” the Bush brother said.  But when the convention rolled around, Mr. Bush was obviously listening to someone else.  He dropped his challenge.

President Reagan came to New Haven that year and spoke to 10,000 Knights of Columbus.  Weicker was on stage with him.  The president, Sen. Weicker, and I were perhaps the only three “Prots” in the hall.  I was then working for a state pro-life group backed by the Catholic Church.  When the host announced from the podium that Sen. Weicker would be flying back to Washington on Air Force One with the president, there were boos and catcalls.  The announcer spoke over this disruption.  “The president will be dropping Sen. Weicker off in the capital,” he said with authority.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/mad_at_santorum_over_specter_what_would_reagan_do.html#ixzz1lpwVZkO5


19 posted on 02/08/2012 3:55:09 PM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: red flanker

Yes, it was a stupid decision for political reasons. Not as bad as Romney-Care, but close. What you are probably saying is that none of the GOP folks running is worth a hoot (except as a counter to Obama) - and certainly does not generate any enthusiasm.

Go GOP...yeah, yeah...


20 posted on 02/08/2012 3:56:08 PM PST by Deagle
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To: red flanker
And so it begins.....

Stand firm Rick!

21 posted on 02/08/2012 3:56:28 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Timber Rattler
.he voted to repeal DADT

That is not true. He wasn't seated as a Senator when that was repealed. He just said he would vote to repeal. Now if he won the '04 race, you would be right.

22 posted on 02/08/2012 3:57:15 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I guess it ain’t as bad as putting Dede Scozzafava on SCOTUS


23 posted on 02/08/2012 3:59:27 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Diogenesis

I find that photo unsettling every time I see it. There is a smile on Kennedy’s face but his eyes aren’t smiling. Every time I see that photo I think of how Satan must look when he corrupts and captures another soul. I wonder of Teddy saw that same expression when he was sent to his just “reward”.


24 posted on 02/08/2012 3:59:58 PM PST by PTBAA
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To: Lazlo in PA
You're right. The vote took place in December before he was seated. Be he sure as heck supported it, and FR called him on it.

Toomey to Support Don’t Ask / Don’t Tell Repeal

25 posted on 02/08/2012 4:01:15 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: red flanker

that’s a heck of a stretch. Specter, was a bum, but this straw man just plain stinks.


26 posted on 02/08/2012 4:02:11 PM PST by stylin19a (time to Obamanos)
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To: red flanker
When you compare the negative impact of what Santorum or Gingrich endorsements and support had on political races, Rick is the one that helped Specter put ObomneyCare around every American's neck.

Anyone but that socialist pig Romney!

27 posted on 02/08/2012 4:04:18 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Timber Rattler

uh, you can’t call something a lie without providing proof. That diary was, just that, a diary - it wasn’t represented as anything more. But the reviews at the time, were very positive. And apparently that guy Moran was there... he said a lot of not very nice things about Newt, which I assume had truth in them. I didn’t like reading them, but I didn’t call the guy a liar.

Did you read the book? It is available on Kindle, and on Amazon in hardcover... maybe paperback, not sure.

You Sanctimonium supporters have to get over this, every time somebody says something negative or unflattering about Tricky Ricky, you can’t just dismiss them and call them a liar, or get mean and nasty... not gonna work. NOT GONNA WORK.


28 posted on 02/08/2012 4:05:05 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: MVV

I can’t imagine how much worse things would be if the Supreme Court had one more lib on it. I was mad at Santorum for a long time but now I think he did what he had to.


29 posted on 02/08/2012 4:05:22 PM PST by Kenny
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To: stylin19a

Specter and his team helped Santorum get elected. If he would have turned his back on him no one would have ever helped him again.


30 posted on 02/08/2012 4:05:36 PM PST by PjhCPA (Game On!)
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To: red flanker

The rule of unintended consequences. Arlen Specter was running under the colors of the Republican party, and the big push is “go along to get along” among the Republican establishment. The establishment knew Specter was not a reliable conservative vote, they didn’t care, and there was probably more than a little pressure on Santorum to retain the seniority thing for Specter, as that was how the individual states were supposed to gain and retain clout on a national basis.

Seniority is a myth, an illegitimate award for time served, not for merit in any special expertise. Robert Byrd and Tedious Kennedy were examples of that end result, both having remained far beyond their range of capabilities and more like some musty example from the British Parliament’s House of Lords.

“But if Arlen Specter had to give up his seat, he would lose all that seniority!” The Establishment pulled out all the stops to assure that Specter could keep his precious seniority.

In the end, a bad trade, as Specter defected anyway.


31 posted on 02/08/2012 4:06:43 PM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: SueRae

Its complete and utter stupidity to try to take down one of the guys who stands in the way of Romney walking away with this this nomination.

Ya don’t need to love Santorum to recognize that.

Just today I heard Santorum asked if he was going to ask Gingrich to step out of the race. He said no.


32 posted on 02/08/2012 4:07:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: red flanker

Romney voted for Paul Tsongas instead of the Republican.


33 posted on 02/08/2012 4:10:33 PM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: red flanker

ObamaCare was NOT on the scene at the time, so Santorum is not to blame here. Sorry! Specter was not a conservative, but the three judges he got through the judiciary committee might not have made it without him. That is the honest truth. He was, as the judiciary committee chairman, relentless in taking up for the three excellent judges, knocking down the democratic machine to take them out of consideration. Today we benefit from their presence on the court. Had they not made it through, and Bush nominated lesser men/women for the positions, we’d be in a world of hurt. True, they are not always the majority, but we’d have no chance of a majority otherwise. If we take back the WH, we might have a couple more in the next 4 years. But, now I would think, given the treatment that Santorum received in exchange, that he is a bit wiser. Nobody is perfect, and we all learn from the mistakes we make, hopefully. Santorum was one of the conservatives that helped to get Newt’s Contract with America passed. Newt made mistakes, so did Santorum. I like Newt’s fighter instinct, but I’m seeing a renewed Santorum coming alive right now so this is getting interesting! May the better man win.


34 posted on 02/08/2012 4:13:10 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: true believer forever
Blah, blah, blah...!

Anything posted by that nutcase Bill Collier on his "Freedomist" website should be immediately suspect to anyone.

35 posted on 02/08/2012 4:13:43 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: svcw

There was a confidential room, which held the transcripts and the testimony of women Bill Clinton had harmed, and only members of congress were allowed to read the stuff. It apparently was very damning, and descriptive.

The talk about “witnesses” in the diary was about letting those women come forward... that is what the house repubs wanted... those women... so that the public could have a chance to see the accusers and weigh their stories...

The house republicans thought they had struck a deal with sanctimonium and lott - and the senate - that the women could testify live - but got doublecrossed.

I am no historian, and no expert certainly, but I have put these few pieces of that ancient history together... and yes, as a woman, a conservative woman, a woman who gets hit on all the time without doing one tiny thing to provoke it, I find that particularly upsetting... Apparently the Clinton line then was the women were sluts, or were rebuffed, but most of them came onto Clinton and were the initiators...


36 posted on 02/08/2012 4:17:10 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: true believer forever

If you honestly think that’s true, how do you explain this?

Santorum voted to impeach Clinton on two counts.

http://www.weyrich.com/ameriroots/impeachment/senator_santorum.html


37 posted on 02/08/2012 4:17:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: red flanker

It’s water under the dam. Get over it.

No candidate is perfect. Certainly not the alternatives.


38 posted on 02/08/2012 4:18:52 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Timber Rattler

David Schipper’s book, Sellout (2000), describes a scene on page 9 where the House Managers and a few others meet with two Republican Senators in a conference room.

The two were Senator Trent Lott and Senator Rick Santorum.
They informed the House Republicans that the Senate Republicans weren’t going to tolerate the House dumping their garbage on the Senate.

It was all politics. No Senators viewed any of the evidence possessed by the House.

Three weeks ago I knew very little about Rick Santorum. Today, I feel quite comfortable referring to him as Saint Rick the hypocrite.

Many are highly critical of Newt Gingrich, but he is an honest man. Rick Santorum is nothing of the sort.


39 posted on 02/08/2012 4:20:21 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: svcw

In addition, I recommend people check this out.

http://www.weyrich.com/ameriroots/impeachment/senator_santorum.html


40 posted on 02/08/2012 4:20:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: cripplecreek
Its complete and utter stupidity to try to take down one of the guys who stands in the way of Romney walking away with this this nomination.

Totally agree. Santorum endorsed Specter, he didn't elect him. It's folly to waste conservative capital on this kind of nonsense.

Romney's trying to hang the national debt around Rick's neck because of earmarks or votes on debt. Rick was one Senator, a single vote. Was he supposed to pull a Mr. Smith Goes to Washington?

There's a lot more good about Santorum than bad and we'd better get behind him. This might be our last chance to stop Romney. So who's worse?

41 posted on 02/08/2012 4:21:24 PM PST by Kenny
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To: cripplecreek
Its complete and utter stupidity to try to take down one of the guys who stands in the way of Romney walking away with this this nomination.

Totally agree. Santorum endorsed Specter, he didn't elect him. It's folly to waste conservative capital on this kind of nonsense.

Romney's trying to hang the national debt around Rick's neck because of earmarks or votes on debt. Rick was one Senator, a single vote. Was he supposed to pull a Mr. Smith Goes to Washington?

There's a lot more good about Santorum than bad and we'd better get behind him. This might be our last chance to stop Romney. So who's worse?

42 posted on 02/08/2012 4:21:46 PM PST by Kenny
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To: true believer forever

Thank you for putting up this link. I do remember being furious at the time that witnesses would not be called against Clinton during the impeachment. I did not realize Rick S. was a part of this with Trent Lott whom I deplore.
...makes Newt (who I already favored) look more attractive for the Georgia primary.


43 posted on 02/08/2012 4:22:48 PM PST by texteacher
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To: red flanker
So you are pressing this attack for who, willard or noot???? Which is it Red, since we know paul is not going to win spit.
44 posted on 02/08/2012 4:26:30 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: red flanker

President Bush personally asked Santorum to back Specter. How many Republicans asked Newt Gingrich to endorse Dede Scozzafava?


45 posted on 02/08/2012 4:28:40 PM PST by montag813
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To: Diogenesis

bump!


46 posted on 02/08/2012 4:30:04 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: DoughtyOne

I can explain it this way - and you are probably being disingenuous as you most likely know more about it than I do: He could vote for it, because without the women the women the women - the case was so weak - the entire senate could vote against it - like Tricky Ricky did - and not be faulted. Had those women testified live - the case may have been so compelling the senate wouldn’t have dared vote it down... or the republicans - at the least - mightn’t have dared to vote against it...

A lot of young women coming into the conservative party now are absolutely appalled as they find out about this clinton stuff... to some of us it is just unbelievable that he treated a young woman that way - in the White House - and got away with it...


47 posted on 02/08/2012 4:30:40 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: ari-freedom
and Toomey gave us gays in the military

Let's repeat that for the cheap seats...

and Toomey gave us gays in the military

48 posted on 02/08/2012 4:30:40 PM PST by montag813
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To: MVV
"This has been a big problem for me for a long time..."

Likewise for me.

It is not just an issue of Specter supporting Obamacare, because Santorum has held his ground on that issue from the beginning. But, Arlen Specter is onoe of the most blatant examples of everything wrong with our government and political system. He was a life long quisling parasite on our economy and in our congress who would do anything necessary to build his power, stuff his pocket or curry favor in exchange for votes. He has no moral base and for Santorum to align himself with the scumbag was a move I could never understand.

49 posted on 02/08/2012 4:31:01 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: red flanker

Yes, I’m still mad at him over Specter. Its one of the main reasons I held back from supporting him.

Of course, at this point, all of the candidates have baggage. My #1, Gingrich, has Scozzafava and a host of other things I’ve had to overlook.

So, in the overall scheme of things, I’m prepared to let it go. He’s not Romney. Thats a big one with me.

So, for me, its Gingrich (baggage and all) followed by Santorum (Specter and all) followed by... Paul. Followed by Romney. For me, my biggest problem with Romney is not his shape-shifting, but rather his willingness to trash his Repub opponents, and the “tea party”, and whoever else he saw as a threat. He always saw conservatives as more of a threat than he did Obama. Thats my biggest problem with him. Most of the others knew that Obama was the threat, but Romney knew that conservatives were the main threat.

I’ll smile when I pull the lever for either Gingrich or Santorum. I’ll cringe a bit if I have to vote for Paul. If I have to vote for Romney in the general it will be with fear and loathing. And if he wins the nomination and loses the general, I think the GOP breaks.


50 posted on 02/08/2012 4:32:13 PM PST by marron
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