Skip to comments.20% of Republicans leaning to Obama!
Posted on 02/09/2012 2:35:06 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
...the 2012 election is looking more like a replay of 2008 than a do-over.
The latest WND/Wenzel Poll shows...one in five GOP voters leaning toward support of Obama in November....
Obama also has made tremendous inroads on enemy territory against each of the four Republicans, winning roughly 20 percent support among conservatives and even those who consider themselves to be very conservative.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
DemocRats claiming to be Republicans to skew the poll?
I don’t think these numbers could possibly be correct... Unless the 20% they are speaking to are lying about being Republicans.
Stats like these are useless without more information. For example, What percentage of republicans always vote democrat? Also, how are these distributed among the states? If they are mostly from liberal states then they will have no effect.
How about a poll asking people who voted for Obama last time and will not vote for him this time AND a poll of those who voted against Obama last time and will vote for Obama this time.It is hard to find voters who will switch to Obama BUT it is easy to find voters who will switch away from Obama.
No real conservative wants anything to do with Obama. The language has been warped, twisted and spun so much that raving leftwing lunatics are passing as moderates and Mitt Romney claims to be conservative..
“NO registered GOP is going to vote for this POS....”
Ehhhh.....most Americans don’t understand DC RinoCrat UniParty Politics.....but ‘Bammy has been the best thing for DC since the New Deal...and that special kind of goodness crosses the aisle big time!!
An idealogical conservative would NEVER support the hard left policies of the worst president in American history. This is absurd and reflects negatively on the credibility of WND.
The dead ones.
It isn't called World Nut Daily for nothing.
And I wouldn't bother to pay any attention to any so-called poll that I can't link to. Why didn't WND provide us with the poll's internals?
Is it a poll of registered voters? Average citizens who "self-identify" as Republicans? We don't know.
Then they are NOT conservatives.
That's a might big "if", though. Would you answer a poll in complete honesty, right now... or would you use the opportunity to put a shot across the GOP's bow?
We may not be delighted with our primary election choices, but I suspect these numbers will look different after the convention. Even if Romney prevails.
Difference being a pubbie congress will have more sway over Mitt than odumbo.
well,, half the people on Free Republic aren’t voting if Rommey is the candidate, so in effect they are voting for Obama....just sayin....
The election is 9 months away and we are 6 months from the general election campaign even starting. At this point in time, George W Bush was way down in both elections as was Bill Clinton in 1992 and Reagan in 1980.
Heck, just 2 months ago, Rick Santorum was polling at about 1%, behind Jon Huntsman, Michele Bachmann, and Rick Perry.
I am certainly worried about the prospect of Obama getting reelected, but I wouldn’t really stress over it until after Labor Day at least.
Following the Wikipedia link......He was responsible for some brilliantly funny setups....Too bad we don’t have too many like him on our side.
If 20% are, this country needs to go down in flames. If they are that ignorant we do not deserve a country and deserve whats coming.
This is purely the fault, in my opinion, of Mitt Romney. No matter which of the early candidates one might have favored, these marginal republicans have watched them savaged by the Romney Slime machine and its minions.
Rather than support that, they have turned away in disgust.
The Republican Party had better wise up quickly.
Let me repeat. I will NEVER vote for Romney...not in primary and not in general. I am certain that I am not the only one who believes this.
Now there’s a name from the past.
20% of GOP want Obama even “those who are conservative or VERY conservative”???
What are they doing, just making things up now?
The primary has devolved into mudslinging because of Romney. He should. Dropout now. Of course, i think he’d rather see Obama win another four years than to see him lose to Newt or Santorum. Romney is, afterall, a Rat in Republican clothing.
This is hugh and series!!!!! But we won’t really know until Debka confirms this. /snicker
Triple Dog Dare Ya BS
who did they poll?
the non Tea Party GOP members of congress?
the “republicans” who were asked who they would vote for if Willard is not nominated?
[ Maybe these folks figure Romney will be the nominee, so they might as well vote for Obama. Whats the difference? ]
Maybe the 20% are all preppers who are all done prepping and want to vote for obama so they can get the “re-set” over with while they sit in their bunkers eating canned beans while the rest of the country burns.
[ If Obummer wins the nomination, itll basically guarantee that well never have another President after him.
Not that hell take over everything. Its just the country will basically collapse.
Mitt Romney represents the same death, only itll be more of a whimper than a bang. ]
Sounds like the “Screw it, I wanna pull the band-aid off fast” contingent. Sad thing is if we get Romney, I wouldn’t really blame them....
I think we need to take this seriously. Never underestimate the level of confusion among the American electorate.
There is no doubt that some registered Republicans will vote for President Obama. Just as the Democratic Party still has some conservative Southerners and northern ethnic blue-collar “Reagan Democrats,” the Republican Party does have RINOs.
But this poll goes beyond that and says some self-identified conservatives will vote for Obama. I think this is the best explanation:
11 posted on Thursday, February 09, 2012 4:58:30 AM by RKBA Democrat: “There is an argument to be made, and Ive heard it here at FR, that 4 more years of a lame duck barky would be less bad than 4-8 years of mitt. I dont subscribe to the argument particularly while mitt hasnt yet won the GOP nomination. There are also some SoCons who will not vote for Newt.”
I've been working hard in my own circles to convince people that Newt Gingrich is a tolerable Republican candidate, although I am supporting Santorum and am glad to see Santorum recovering. Barack Obama is far worse than anyone in the Republican race this year, with Romney only barely better than Obama in the positions he was stating a few years ago before he decided to run for the Republican Party at a national rather than state level and started taking a more conservative line.
Again, I can live with either Santorum or Gingrich. Both bring good things to the table and it's a matter of choosing which is better than the other.
However, even in my own church circles, I know a PCA pastor who is publicly stating that he will vote for Barack Obama because he kept his marriage together, and he thinks Obama is fixing the economy that (in his view) Bush ruined. That's absolutely wrong, but how do you argue with ignorance?
I'm trying to convince the minister that voting for a baby-killer is unacceptable and I have a chance of convincing him if Santorum is the Republican nominee, but I don't think I'm going to succeed if Gingrich is the Republican nominee, which means this pastor is going to vote for Obama and urge his church members to do so.
Remember, this guy is not a political or religious liberal, though he's definitely politically naive. He's an ordained minister in a strongly conservative and predominantly Southern denomination, and he's got a lot of conservative Democrats in his congregation who usually vote Republican on national issues but Democrat for state and local offices.
We have to deal with such things. Politics is sometimes difficult because people are often difficult.
Oh, those are the "take their ball and go home" Republicans who promise to stay home on election day, vote "third party" or write in Ron Paul...or other such foolishness.
They also risk losing the House and seeing no gains in the Senate if they don't vote.
You know who you are.
Nice analysis. Romney is not conservative enough for voters so they will go with Obama instead? Laughable.
This may be southern Republicans who switched in the past few years from the Democrats and yearn to return to their traditional base, particularly after Haley Barbour stabbed Republicans in the back in MS. Or it may be New Englanders who haven’t voted Republican for years but still consider themselves “Republican.” Or maybe it is PA, CA, and OR people trying to curry favor with their Democrat neighbors.
Wow, Romney’s base is leaning to Obama?
I blame the Republican hierarchy. Republican voters have demanded a truly conservative candidate, but the powers that be insist on foisting upon us a RINO. If Obama is re-elected, you cannot blame the conservative voter. Most probably feel they have no choice
Republicans? Democrats? Got to stop thinking that way. Polls on this subject will always show that and clearly demonstrating what is wrong. Conservatives! Liberals! Now do the poll, how many Conservatives would vote for Obama? Our problem is libs have infiltrated the Republican party just like every other institution, churches supporting gays, abortion and contraception, little boys joining the Girl Scouts, abortionists being funded by breast cancer funds....it's a liberal infection.
The question is, will you support any organization that allows this liberal mind set in the ranks of YOUR core values? I left the Episcopal Church, won't buy girl scout cookies and refuse to donate any more to Koman. AND I darned sure left the Republican party behind long ago. If I contributed to the RNC here in SC, a portion of those dollars would fund Lindsey Graham ... A Republican who just might cite for Obama to become Sec of Defense. Allowing even a small percentage of your funding to support what you are dead set against is a sign of mental instability.
54% of Catholics voted for Obama, 78% of Jews, now 23% of Republicans. We either have to purge the ranks or sit back and "enjoy" watching everything we believe in destroyed by the older hippies we knew in the 60's. Peace, Love and drugs led directly to a Charles Manson conclusion. And things don't change. Libs are the enemy within, we need to treat them with as much intolerance as we do shoe bombers.
I wanted Cain to stay in. I personally don’t think the dirt they had was anyway worse than Democrats. People living in glass houses should not be throwing stones. Democrats have no grounds to criticize infidelities in Republicans. Recently revealed the Democrat “god” JFK had affairs- even when Mrs K miscarried.
I’m in Alabama and am now leaning toward Santorum. But really when it comes right down to it- I’ll vote whoever can actually beat Obama. He has to go.
I do know that I’ll never throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate again - I did that with Ross Perot- in essence giving my vote to Clinton.
Most Dems act like they won’t leave their party - no matter what. Some may but the majority act like they’ll go down with the ship if need be.
The vote doesn’t seem as likely to be “split” on that side of the isle like it would be for Republicans. Democrats are just more rabid about party than Republicans are. A Republican can vote Conservative Independent. I can’t see a Democrat voting “liberal Independent” (this is all my opinion of course - I’ve never actually seen a study on it)
These numbers don’t surprise me at all.
They may change if the shift to Santorum continues, but if Romney is the nominee, voters are going to make the decision to stay with the devil they know.
And, whether voters disagree with his socialist policies or not, Obama’s personal approval rates have remained higher than job approval numbers, so somehow large numbers of Americans still find themselves bonded to Obama emotionally.
I call hugh and series BS. They were talking about this on KLBJ in Austin and not one conservative called in supporting 0 bummer.
Look at it this way -
It doesn't matter if you're driving on the Interstate or taking the scenic route . . .
If your driver is headed over the abyss, the result is the same.
I get the feeling a lot of Republicans in DC KNOW we're headed for the abyss, and prefer a Democrat (Obama) taking the blame, rather than a Republican.
Their thinking is that they'll be there to fill the vacuum afterwards, and take power (what they both really care about).
Hence, the insistence on Myth Romulan.
Any “conservative” who supports the most radical, leftist president in U.S. history is definitely NOT!!! a conservative.
There is an argument to be made, and Ive heard it here at FR, that 4 more years of a lame duck barky would be less bad than 4-8 years of mitt.
...I think it makes sense, since Repeubs would continue to fight tooth and nail against 0bamao while Mittens would put all the “moderate” agenda in place with bipartisanship and we’re screwed by the gop-e anyway...
I’ll support Newt or Rick, but not the used car salesman...
Libertarians. Ron Paul supporters. They voted for Obama last election on promises to end the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and dismantle US foreign bases.
Obama did bring the troops home from Iraq and is in talks to end the Afghanistan war. He’s in the process of dismantling the US military. He’s not supporting Israel. Given no Republican addresses any of the Paul supporters’ concerns nor do they attack Obama on the concerns of Paul voters, I’m not suprised that they stick with Obama.
If Republicans were not out of touch, they would talk about Obama’s abuse of Americans with targeting them, politically, as terrorists and creating a police state. They would talk about the limo-liberals thinking they are rulers - above the constitution. They would talk about reigning in the Fed and Democrat corruption. They would talk about Obama’s anti-second amendment agenda in fast and furious and Holder’s actions and statements around gun control.
No one can please the Paul supporters’ desire to legalize drugs because it is so radical and unpopular. But Democrats do flirt with legalizing pot and that is not as unpopular. Soros is behind pushing for that.
That percentage is about right and they are the ones pulling the levers of power in the GOP and have been since 1988. Reagan was just a brief interlude into their positions of power but even then they were there doing damage to Reagan and conservatives.
They are so embedded in the party in key positions of power removing them is virtually impossible. Nothing will change until they leave or the conservatives leave. If the conservatives leave they no longer have a viable party and it would quickly collapse.
We are so screwed as a party and a country and all by the liberals of both parties.