Posted on 02/09/2012 7:59:37 AM PST by pinochet
Many American patriots in the 1930s and 1940s, regarded FDR as a secret communist. The documentary shows how FDR and Stalin conspired to undermine Churchill, as they waged their war effort in Europe, which gives credence to those claims.
One part of the documentary is available on Youtube, titled Churchill vs. Stalin. In almost every dispute that Churchill had with Stalin, FDR took the side of Stalin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUV8IJNszCg
Churchill was naive enough to consider America as an ally for the cause of Christianity, freedom, and Western civilization. He was wrong. Churchill is the true hero of World War Two. He opposed communism, even before he gave his famous 1946 speech, declaring the existence of a Cold War between communism and freedom.
>>>scratchin my head, here. D-Day vs. 1941 ?
D-day was in 1944. Churchill proposed an invasion of Italy in 1941, and did not find it necessary to wait until 1944, when America and Britain launched their D-day invasion.
The authors of that pacifist line of bilge were Roosevelt's State hacks, notably Dean Acheson, who gradually changed his policy from one of appeasement of Stalin to containment of the Soviet menace that later proved to be very real.
Wealth is not like water or air, things that exist independent of man's efforts (I'm not talking about water distribution, dams, purification etc., which are the result of individual efforts). Liberals want to take and redistribute those things that are the result of the efforts of individuals, but will not defend the innate rights of freedom and self-determination.
The “soft underbelly” of Europe.
Churchill was an incredible statesman, but not necessarily a brilliant military planner.
There was no way England could have attacked through Italy in 1941.
The main point of contention between the Americans & Britains after the US entry into the war was where to strike. French North Africa was initially chosen because of the need to secure the Mediterranean. But the argument began before the Germans were ejected from Tunisia as to where to strike next.
The US General Staff wanted to invade France in 1943. The Brits, far more conservative in their approach, wanted to wait for more favorable force ratios. The Sicily/Italian campaign began as a British gambit to tie delay preparations for a cross-channel invasion. They understood better than the Americans that we couldn’t do both in 1943.
We also need to remember that the U-boat menace wasn’t effectively countered until late in 1943. It would have been difficult to build up the necessary forces AND invade France until the U-boat Offensive was defeated.
Winston Churchill was GREAT as being a Great Britain Prime Minister and motivating his people but as a Military Planner he was a Cluster F*** of the First order. To see an example of a Churchill “Planned” Military Operation see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_Campaign
Good points.
Eisenhower understood logistics and knew that only England provided a supply platform for what Eisenhower understood was going to be a long war across France.
The competing strategies of invasion through Vichy France, Italy, and Greece all lost out to Normandy because of resupply and refueling limitations of the Mediterranean Sea and the bottleneck of Gibraltar.
England as a launch point was a no-brainer to the Brit and American general staff.
>>>There was a mentality in the FDR State Department that Russia was not a communist hegemon
Many in the FDR State Department were open communists, and were cheer-leaders for Stalin and his regime. They were the people whom Joe McCarthy was trying to remove in the early 1950s. The FDR administration had the highest infiltration of KNOWN communists of any adminstration in American history. Membership of the Communist Party USA, could not deny you a government job with high security clearance.
How else can you explain how America’s greatest secret, the plans of the atomic bomb, found their way into Soviet hands? Communists were also heavily represented in the mainstream media, as is the case today. When McCarthy tried to remove the communists in the State Department, the media attacked McCarthy, not the communists. It was a case of the commies defending their own.
That doesn’t make sense nor does it clear the confusion.
I don’t understand how the word “Instead” can be used in this context. D-Day wasn’t even a thought ‘41.
The USA wasn’t prepared for war nor did it declare war against Germany until Dec 11 1941.
The Brits just got their ass kicked at Dunkirk and were getting their butts bombed non-stop and Churchill was ready to invade via Italy in ‘41? without the US ?
Too much missing.
I suppose I should try and view the documentary.
Thanks
Churchill visited Stalin during the war and both of them sat up all night “carving” up the world into spheres of influence and determining which part the Soviets would rule and which parts Great Britain would rule.
Churchill did not do anything to stop Stalin. Sorry, but I think he is just as responsible as FDR for the Soviet Union’s takeover of Eastern Europe.
Roosevelt opposed anything that would weaken the USSR or lead to the downfall of Stalin and the communists.
He even ordered Eisenhower to delay the American Army entry into Berlin until the Soviet Red Army got there so they could occupy part of Berlin and half of Germany. Thanks to FDR a hundred million people lived under the iron fist of the USSR communists for almost half a century.
This is documented fact, not tin-foil-hat paranoia as liberal, one-worlders would have you believe.
FDR was every bit as bad as Obama at heart, and even worse in practice (so far). In fact, he laid the groundwork so a socialist like Obama could someday be elected to the US presidency. Obama is just finishing up the work started by FDR.
Both of therm are traitors to the oath they took to protect the US Constitution.
My mother claimed until her passing that Roosevelt was a communist. I learned early that eastern Europe was payment to Stalin. No surprise there.
With what, exactly?
They'd just left ALL of their means to fight (other than manpower) on the beaches at Dunkirk. German UBoats had largely stopped traffic in the Atlantic, as decent convoy / hunter-killer tactics hadn't been invented yet. The US was just barely cranking up war production, and its armies hadn't been significantly blooded. And that's just what I come up with off the top of my head.
Churchill was right. But being right, and being able to prove it, are two different things.
And traitor...
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