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Tribe suing beer companies for alcohol problems
foxnews.com ^ | 2/9/12 | AP

Posted on 02/09/2012 5:19:31 PM PST by ColdOne

LINCOLN, Neb. – An American Indian tribe sued some of the world's largest beer makers Thursday, claiming they knowingly contributed to devastating alcohol-related problems on South Dakota's Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.

The Oglala Sioux Tribe of South Dakota said it is demanding $500 million in damages for the cost of health care, social services and child rehabilitation caused by chronic alcoholism on the reservation, which encompasses some of the nation's most impoverished counties.

The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court of Nebraska also targets four beer stores in Whiteclay, a Nebraska town near the reservation's border that, despite having only about a dozen residents, sold nearly 5 million cans of beer in 2010.

Tribal leaders and activists blame the Whiteclay businesses for chronic alcohol abuse and bootlegging on the Pine Ridge reservation, where all alcohol is banned. They say most of the stores' customers come from the reservation, which spans southwest South Dakota and dips into Nebraska.

"You cannot sell 4.9 million 12-ounce cans of beer and wash your hands like Pontius Pilate, and say we've got nothing to do with it being smuggled," said Tom White, the tribe's Omaha-based attorney.

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To: Logical me
Is it too hard to not drink? Blame the beer companies is as about as stupid as I have ever heard.

Where have you been? They perfected this tactic suing the tobacco companies. They have now been going after fast food outfits, this was just an expected progression.

I can't wait for the price of beer to skyrocket, just like the price of tobacco products did. And I'm a beer drinker.

51 posted on 02/09/2012 6:08:30 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Lion Den Dan

You sound like my cousin!! Ha!!


52 posted on 02/09/2012 6:09:18 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: GeronL

If the British hadn’t of been such a-holes, my ancestors could have avoided that whole revolution, constitution thing. Just think, we could all be British subjects now with free healthcare, free dental, good food and lots of friendly muslim neighbors.

Sue the British!


53 posted on 02/09/2012 6:09:58 PM PST by coldbluesteel (Endo)
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To: muawiyah
The Indians suing beer companies are basically declaring themselves to be permanent children, incapable of taking care of themselves.

So, if they are awarded damages, on the basis of such incompetence, then they must also be declared incompetent for all aspects of adult life. No more casinos, drivers licenses, voting rights, real property, firearms, direct welfare money, etc etc.

54 posted on 02/09/2012 6:11:26 PM PST by Dagnabitt ("None of the above" ain't running.)
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To: ColdOne

I have an idea - don’t drink it. Problem solved.


55 posted on 02/09/2012 6:11:38 PM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: ColdOne
So the hops growers are going to be scalped?
56 posted on 02/09/2012 6:12:17 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: cripplecreek
Honestly I can’t help but wonder why the north American indians ended up so primitive compared to the rest of the world.

Ask the other folks on the Government dole from the 50's..........................................

57 posted on 02/09/2012 6:12:34 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: ColdOne

A lot of Indians I know drink hair spray. They mix it with distilled water and call it “ocean” because of the color. This “lawsuit” is gonna be good. Especially when they decide to Sioux the hairspray companies too.


58 posted on 02/09/2012 6:13:20 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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To: coldbluesteel

lol


59 posted on 02/09/2012 6:14:01 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: muawiyah
The Oglala Sioux have a widespread problem that can be solved if and only if someone gives them new livers with some new genes

The widespread problem could be arrested if not solved, by placing the disease process in remission. And that is done by drying out and followed by complete abstinence. It's a choice they could make. Or not.

60 posted on 02/09/2012 6:14:56 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Who are you and what have you done with Ann Coulter?!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
A lot of Indians I know drink hair spray.

B.S.

61 posted on 02/09/2012 6:15:27 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: muawiyah

Osage and Oglala are related to Assinobione.

Comanche is variant of Shoshone, a Uto-Aztecan language. Completely different from the Siouan language family.


62 posted on 02/09/2012 6:16:40 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Gabz
I can't wait for the price of beer to skyrocket, just like the price of tobacco products did.

2300% increase in the tax on loose tobacco shortly after the emperor was seated. Eventually people will quit smoking and then they start looking for something new to tax. In Michigan the revenue shortfall was so great that they were even considering taxing free food eaten by restaurant employees.

Maybe they should raise the tax on alcohol brought on to the reservation by 10,000%.
63 posted on 02/09/2012 6:18:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Osage Orange

You go ahead and just believe what you want to believe. Maybe your dreams will all come true. I’ve got a reformed alcholic friend who is a Navajo. He fights the battle of trying to get his people off of this stuff EVERY DAMN DAY.


64 posted on 02/09/2012 6:19:16 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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To: Osage Orange
BS online

I have to deal with this crap too.

65 posted on 02/09/2012 6:24:08 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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To: ColdOne

Then I suppose gambling addicts can sue Indian casinos and lung cancer patients can sue Indian tobacco retailers.


66 posted on 02/09/2012 6:25:03 PM PST by Poison Pill (Obama is the hopium of the masses)
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To: Osage Orange
B.S.

You might be surprised. I know a guy addicted to eating Benzedrex nose inhalers. The effect is similar to meth and the results of long term use are the same as well. He learned it on a reservation in the southwest.
67 posted on 02/09/2012 6:25:08 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
He fights the battle of trying to get his people off of this stuff EVERY DAMN DAY.

Yea. Whatever. Look bud, drunks drink mouthwash, they don't drink hairspray. Try to get your chemicals correct....

68 posted on 02/09/2012 6:27:34 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: ScreamingFist

Look at my post above Bud. Click “BS Online”. Nope. They don’t drink hairspray.


69 posted on 02/09/2012 6:29:36 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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To: Dagnabitt
It's Indians being used by lawyers.

Nothing new.....

70 posted on 02/09/2012 6:30:03 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Paddyboy
I’d hate to be siouxed by an indian

Judge: Do you have a closing argument?

mmmh! Fire water bad medicine. Bring heap bad trouble. White mand now give much wampum.

71 posted on 02/09/2012 6:32:22 PM PST by frithguild (Withdraw from the 1967 Treaty on Outer Space. It bans private property and profits.)
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To: ColdOne

I AM a victim!


72 posted on 02/09/2012 6:34:35 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: cripplecreek
2300% increase in the tax on loose tobacco shortly after the emperor was seated.

But, but, but, but............the emperor didn't raise taxes .........

That lie drives me insane, because it was one of the first damned things he did and that is a tax that hits those in the lower income brackets really really hard as it is an EXTREMELY regressive tax.

73 posted on 02/09/2012 6:36:53 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Well...I replied to the comment.

And I doubted you have "lot's of Indian friends that drink hair spray"....

Are you going to tell me again....you have lot's of Indian FRIENDS that drink HAIR SPRAY?"

Hey FRiend..I'm your FRiend here.

I'm just commenting on what you said......

74 posted on 02/09/2012 6:38:41 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: ColdOne
This is like suing the auto makers when you run a stop sign. Hey Chief, it's not the beer, it's called personal responsibility.
75 posted on 02/09/2012 6:40:14 PM PST by kempo
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Eye's open here.....

I might be wrong........

76 posted on 02/09/2012 6:42:00 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Osage Orange
It's Indians being used by lawyers.

I agree with you 100%. It's the lawyers that need to be sued. This is a serious problem although meth is really complicating the problem due to the influx of illegal aliens. Someday, I hope somebody decides to take this problem seriously and knock off the BS of trying to just get rich by exploiting it.

Like the DemocRATS say, "Never let a good crisis go to waste".

77 posted on 02/09/2012 6:43:15 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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To: Osage Orange

I consider everyone my friend except those who decide that they want to be my enemy. I do what I can to help them. That’s all I can do.


78 posted on 02/09/2012 6:45:46 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (So just where does the "buck stop" at the Department of "Justice"?)
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To: Sherman Logan
Language is one thing; DNA is another.

There was plenty of mixing.

79 posted on 02/09/2012 6:58:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Paddyboy
“I’d hate to be siouxed by an indian”

Sounds like a real hatchet job

80 posted on 02/09/2012 6:58:23 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: ColdOne

Lets all sue the Indian casinos for gambling addiction.


81 posted on 02/09/2012 6:59:38 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: ColdOne

Is Lawrence Tribe the Tribe’s attorney?


82 posted on 02/09/2012 7:04:15 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: prairiebreeze
You need to start somewhere. This same problem was successfully dealt with in Jokkomokk province/county in Sweden in the 1700s and 1800s through rather heavy handed repression.

There was also a huge input from the religious sector (that would not be possible in today's Sweden, all the religious people having emigrated to other countries).

We aren't talking about a "normal" experience when we get to life on the reservations. If I were the tribal elders I'd start with a peaceful attempt to shut down the access to liquor. Sounds like that's what they are doing.

Oh, and undo the land use patterns established by Teddy Roosevelt. Get that done right away.

83 posted on 02/09/2012 7:04:58 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Osage Orange
My folks were friends of a couple down the street that had kids the age of my brother and I. That couple met at a reservation boarding school ~ but were from the same tribe somewhere near Waco. There's a fairly assimilated group of tribes there who are known "relatives" of the Comanche, although they themselves were not identified as same ~ must have been folks who moved South during the climate anomaly in the early 1600s.

One of my Great Great grandfathers used to run the trails taking pioneers West and preaching to them going East. He must have been married two dozen or more times ~ only had one kid we know of, but he sure did try. He married at least three Indian women over the years (maybe more but there's no records) ~ one of them definitely from up at an early "agency" at Sault St. Marie that had people from dozens of tribes.

We may be closer cousins than you imagine ~ then, one of his brothers had a son who ended up hanging around the old Menominee reservation ~ and the outcome of that is I have an awful lot of cousins in reservations all around the Great Lakes.

Still, going back further than that a couple of generations, they all seemed to be living in the Oneida lands in Iroquoia. Lots of whites, Indians and mixed people there at the time of the revolution. Our guys were all scouts with the Americans forces.

84 posted on 02/09/2012 7:18:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek
I was an easy case per day drinker myself for years...

That's Alcohol of Fame material right there

...and managed to quit cold turkey.

No one likes a quitter. /kidding

85 posted on 02/10/2012 7:41:10 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

I coulda been a contender.


86 posted on 02/10/2012 7:45:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ColdOne
Tribe suing beer companies for alcohol problems

I thought this was referring to the infamous 1974 "Ten-Cent Beer Night" at Municipal Stadium.

The Ballad of Ten-Cent Beer Night

87 posted on 02/10/2012 7:51:03 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t understand the appeal of alcohol at all. A little bit is one thing but getting wasted is another.

Drunk people tend to do stupid s***.


88 posted on 02/10/2012 8:45:40 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: ColdOne
Will they also sue the state for making lottery tickets addictive?

If they win, can the Indian casinos be sued for damages caused by excessive gambling?

89 posted on 02/10/2012 8:50:09 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I don’t miss it.


90 posted on 02/10/2012 8:51:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

I’ll have one drink and feel sleepy. I don’t drink anymore because of the meds I’m taking.

On a show called ‘Intervention’ a man took his girlfriend’s alcohol away and locked her in the closet for three days. She’s a very heavy drinker and it’s a miracle she didn’t die. I think she actuallly had the D.T.’s.

That is scary.


91 posted on 02/10/2012 8:55:19 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I’m lucky that I was able to make a conscious derision to quit and tough it out. I think I had genetics on my side. Both of my parents drank heavily for years and just stopped like I did.


92 posted on 02/10/2012 9:00:42 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: From The Deer Stand
the indian casinos get no taxation and have to follow no rules at their casinos.....therefore, smoking is everywhere....its in your eyes..your mouth...your clothes are full of smoke....and they come around ALL day pushing cocktails/beer/soda....even though they are not forcing you to buy alcohol, or smoke, they enable it....

I smell a huge class action lawsuit....Wooo Hooo!

93 posted on 02/10/2012 9:07:54 AM PST by cherry
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To: muawiyah
you know that and I know that and the Indians sure as heck know that they shouldn't drink yet they do....there are no problems until they pick up that drink....

we can't tell a diabetic not to eat candy either.....

we can't tell a heart patient to lay off the cheeseburgers...

94 posted on 02/10/2012 9:17:40 AM PST by cherry
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To: cripplecreek

Good for you, cc! Congratulations on taking your life back and putting the disease in remission.


95 posted on 02/10/2012 10:53:28 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Who are you and what have you done with Ann Coulter?!)
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To: ColdOne

I didn’t realise the brewers were putting a gun to the Indians’ heads. “Drink this beer or we’ll kill you.”


96 posted on 02/10/2012 2:00:53 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: ColdOne
The Crackatinnie tribe, NW Australia.


97 posted on 02/10/2012 2:10:54 PM PST by steveo
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To: ColdOne

Of course if the beer companies didn’t sell beer to those drunks they would sue for racism.


98 posted on 02/10/2012 2:51:08 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: ColdOne

P.S. If they drunks got drunk then they certainly cannot sue for defective product.


99 posted on 02/10/2012 2:54:07 PM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: muawiyah
Brozho Nican!!

I've certainly family living still in the Great Lakes region....and more probably along the trail that lead from there to here.

Best that I can tell...there were some good solid tribal members as relations. Some Chiefs, etc... The paper trail is real hard to follow....

I've aunts and uncles that attended Indian boarding schools here in OK....

You want to read a good book....pick up, "Empire of the Summer Moon"

FRegards,

100 posted on 02/13/2012 8:49:57 AM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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