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Obama birth control policy divides Democrats (but in the end, a smelly Rat is still a smelly Rat)
google ^ | 2/9/2012 | DONNA CASSATA, Associated Press

Posted on 02/10/2012 3:34:28 AM PST by tobyhill

Democrats are deeply divided over President Barack Obama's new rule that religious schools and hospitals must provide insurance for free birth control to their employees amid fresh signs that the administration was scrambling for a way out.

"This is not only unacceptable, it is un-American," says Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., a Catholic who faces re-election in November in a state where Wednesday nights are reserved for church services.

Another Catholic senator, Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, has pleaded with the administration "to correct this decision which will erode the conscience rights" that have been protected for decades. His opposition echoes the criticism of his bishop in Scranton, Rev. Joseph C. Bambera.

Several Democrats, including Senate candidate Tim Kaine in Virginia and Illinois Rep. Dan Lipinski, have been outspoken in assailing the recently announced administration mandate that has angered religious groups and unified Republicans in protest. In a reflection of the party split, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., on Thursday blocked a GOP effort to debate an amendment on religious freedom.

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1 posted on 02/10/2012 3:34:34 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

FORCE religious groups to go against 2 or 5 thousand years of Teaching. That Obozo is STUPID is beyond question. Now we only have to figure out if that is a good thing or a bad thing...


2 posted on 02/10/2012 3:49:53 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: tobyhill

Democrats in heavily-Catholic districts are sweating bullets, as well they should. Members of all faiths should see this as government regulation of religion, a direct assault on the First Amendment, and should be as vigorous as the Roman Catholics in manning the opposition against this attack.


3 posted on 02/10/2012 3:58:41 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: TalBlack

Obama is a hardcore Marxist and One Worlder. He doesn’t believe in religion except maybe Islam. He definitely isn’t a Christian. The Black Theology “Church” he attended is insane and is more of a racist hate group than anything else.

This is part of the Marxist playbook. Eventually ban religion and replace it with “The State.”

Notice how half the country worships Obama? As if he was a God? My neighbors get absolutely crazy with anger if you disagree with anything The One says.


4 posted on 02/10/2012 3:59:50 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: tobyhill

Bull....Any divide in the Dem party is strictly voter pandering.


5 posted on 02/10/2012 4:01:50 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: tobyhill
I read on another thread this morning the EJ Dionne, who can't get much more liberal is outraged over Obama's stand on this, and is apparently very vocal about it.

He loses Dionne he has lost the war.

6 posted on 02/10/2012 4:03:52 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: Sacajaweau

Like they’re not going to vote for Obumba in November!


7 posted on 02/10/2012 4:04:54 AM PST by gr8eman (Ron Swanson for President!)
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To: tobyhill

Hey Casey, you FRAUD CATHOLIC......you laid down with DOGS and now you have FLEAS.....NO REAL CATHOLIC that follows the Church’s teachings can be DEMOCRAT......it’s a LIE...they live a lie.....Democrats are for DEATH....they are the party of DEATH.


8 posted on 02/10/2012 4:07:05 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: tobyhill

Looks to me like this was the plan all along.

1... Announce that EVERYBODY has to have a tattoo.
2... The Clean-Skin crowd raises a hue and cry.
3... Everybody sympathizes with the Clean-Skinners
4... Some sort of compromise is worked out with the Clean-Skinners (but not until AFTER the election).
5... The rest of us are left with tattoos.


9 posted on 02/10/2012 4:08:06 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: gr8eman

nobama has a long history of hating children. nobama was very strong in wanting the brains to be sucked out out of “partially born” live children. nobama despises young children as “mistakes”. Sick. Loser.


10 posted on 02/10/2012 4:08:22 AM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: TalBlack

Obama is telling the Pope to shove it. Hahaha! Good luck with that one. My hope is that Obama is arrogant enough to let it ride, as is.


11 posted on 02/10/2012 4:15:42 AM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: tobyhill

All hard core socialists HATE people of faith. I’m not sure why, but it goes back to the civil war in Spain.

I think socialism is the worship of govt as the provider of all, and religion competes with that ideology. Catholics are the most visible of all the faiths in america and will be the first target for persecution.


12 posted on 02/10/2012 4:17:38 AM PST by Cyclops08
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To: tobyhill
Not only provide healthcare benefits for contraception, abortion and sterilization, but also give it all for FREE! I predict that Zero will back down right before the election. This edict came down this early so that the controversy would die down before November. There is a myriad of issues that the public is ignorant about. We need to spotlight ALL those issues and keep hammering away at them. This American public needs to be aware of all the control The Won has usurped from all of us!
13 posted on 02/10/2012 4:23:55 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: tobyhill; Salvation
a Catholic who faces re-election

A coincidence? I think not.

14 posted on 02/10/2012 4:24:41 AM PST by Gamecock (I am so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it. JGM)
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To: Gamecock

Hey, you do not want to be punished by a baby! What a sick ahole/


15 posted on 02/10/2012 4:31:46 AM PST by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: Cyclops08
All hard core socialists HATE people of faith. I’m not sure why, but it goes back to the civil war in Spain.

Simple. He serves the Father of Lies. And the hatred is over 2,000 years old. The Father of Lies knows he will loose in the end, and that is coming close.

Catholics are the most visible of all the faiths in america and will be the first target for persecution.

Not sure I agree with that statement, but remember these are the same vermin who burned Sarah Palin's Church in Wasilla, AL. Only because she had a following and she was Christian. They torched the church with people in the building, Fortunately all were able to escape the fire.

Never forget, ALL Christians, Jews and some other faiths are in this together. These are evil men, Servants of Satan, some of them are not aware who they serve and others are. Never forget who we are actually in battle with.

16 posted on 02/10/2012 4:41:10 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: txrefugee

“Democrats in heavily-Catholic districts are sweating bullets”

Nonsense, they’re solidifying their support among ‘moderates’ with their public ‘opposition’- and laughing all the way to the bank with donations from ‘Emily list’ types.

Thanks to the media this is an electoral bonanza for those Dems.


17 posted on 02/10/2012 4:54:33 AM PST by mrsmith (So... how's the Tea Party nominee for your House seat doing?)
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To: tobyhill

These “pleas” remind me of the movie scenes where mob bosses cry at the funerals of gangsters they had whacked. It’s all image and theater and no substance. One need only look back at Bart Stupak and Obamacare to see how this will work out.

The fact is, the hard left pulls the strings of the Democratic party at the national level, and never so much as the last few years. All of these folks will fall into line once they are safely re-elected.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 5:19:37 AM PST by DemforBush (Six o'clock in *Berlin*. They were having lunch in Cleveland.)
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To: tobyhill; Graewoulf; VinceASA; Monkey Face; RIghtwardHo; pieces of time; Warthog-2; Tzar; ...
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19 posted on 02/10/2012 5:21:41 AM PST by narses
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To: whitedog57

——Notice how half the country worships Obama? As if he was a God? My neighbors get absolutely crazy with anger if you disagree with anything The One says.——

As you say, it’s a spiritual issue.

If it wasn’t so tragic, it would be laughable the way they put their faith in him, yet ridicule Christians for having faith in Jesus.(!)


20 posted on 02/10/2012 5:41:30 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: DemforBush

-—These “pleas” remind me of the movie scenes where mob bosses cry at the funerals of gangsters they had whacked. It’s all image and theater and no substance. One need only look back at Bart Stupak and Obamacare to see how this will work out.——

Exactly. If the persecution wasn’t bad enough, they also want to insult our intelligence.

Hey Catholic Democrats: STUFF IT!

And BTW, Odumbo, the producers will soon be going underground. Then who’s going to pay for your socialist paradise?


21 posted on 02/10/2012 5:51:42 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: tobyhill

It will be interesting to see 1.) which Debtocrat Federal politicians still hold onto the Obama smoke and mirrors screen Party Line, and 2.) which Democrats bolt and stand up to defend this dastardly attack on Religious Freedom by Bolshevik Chairman Obama.

BTW, the latter list could be very helpful for voters from ALL religions in November, 2012.


22 posted on 02/10/2012 7:15:18 AM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf

“... which Democrats bolt and stand up to defend this dastardly attack on Religious Freedom by Bolshevik Chairman Obama.

BTW, the latter list could be very helpful for voters from ALL religions in November, 2012.”

Just what I was talking about above...

Wasn’t this a great boon for those members of The Death Party like Manchin and Casey?
(Not picking on you, just admiring the skill of our disgusting media.)


23 posted on 02/10/2012 7:30:01 AM PST by mrsmith (So... how's the Tea Party nominee for your House seat doing?)
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To: narses

24 posted on 02/10/2012 8:11:29 AM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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