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The Catholic Tribe Closes Ranks Against Obama's Intrusion
Townhall.com ^ | February 10, 2012 | Maggie Gallagher

Posted on 02/10/2012 8:09:15 AM PST by Kaslin

President Obama's attack on Catholic organizations has managed to do what the bishops have been unable to do, as Peggy Noonan points out: Unite the Catholic right and the Catholic left.

Obama's decision to use Obamacare to force Catholic hospitals, schools, universities and charities to fund abortion pills, contraception and sterilization constitutes a deep betrayal of his staunch allies on the Catholic left.

They went out on a limb for Obama and Obamacare, and he has cut off that limb and left them bereft.

Professor Doug Kmiec supported Obama and even wrote a book to justify how a pro-life Catholic could support a pro-choice president (and was rewarded with the plum job of ambassador to Malta). Kmiec has just written an open letter of rebuke to Barack Obama, charging he "put the cold calculus of politics above faith and freedom." "Where is the common good, sir, in not making room for the great Catholic traditions of education, health care and meeting the needs of the least among us?" Kmiec demanded.

The Rev. John Jenkins, president of the University of Notre Dame, took heat from many Catholics in 2009 for giving President Obama an award and a speaking platform at a university named "Our Lady"; he now scolds the president's "unnecessary government intervention" that puts Notre Dame in the "untenable position" of dropping coverage for 5,229 employees.

Even Chris Matthews on MSNBC is calling for a retreat.

And poor Sister Carol Keehan, head of the Catholic Health Association! She broke openly with the bishops to endorse Obamacare, promising it would not lead to the funding of abortions. She never imagined that, much worse, it would lead to requiring Catholic organizations to dispense contraceptives and abortifacients (the morning-after pill) on demand. She called the new regulations a "jolt."

Catholic reaction may well have jolted Sen. Rick Santorum back into contention for the GOP nomination. In last Tuesday's contests, he ran 10 points ahead of the last pre-election PPP poll, indicating a sudden intensity in the turnout for him. Pundits are focusing on the evangelical vote, but Santorum ran surprisingly well in heavily Catholic counties surrounding Minneapolis/St. Paul. He was on fire in his victory speech: President Obama has gone after the liberty of "just a small group of Americans," he said incredulously, "just Catholics in America."

Obama gravely miscalculated. He thought the new Health and Human Services regulations would become a battle over contraception -- politically speaking, a battle he could win. As a Protestant, he forgot the structure of Catholicism is essentially clannish; we may complain about our bishops, but that doesn't mean we want the president of the United States to push them -- or us -- around. The church has been around for 2,000 years, we know it does things funny, and we don't want outsiders interfering with our faith.

President Obama will pay a price, among swing Catholic voters and Latino Catholics, for his totally unnecessary aggression against carefully crafted conscience compromises.

How do Democrats defend the indefensible? I was on "MSNBC Live" with Thomas Roberts this week, debating former Democratic operative Karen Finney, who tried to say that if the Catholic Chur ch opens up "businesses," it has to accept government rules. I interrupted her to say, "These are nonprofits, charities, schools, not businesses." She compounded matters by suggesting the nonprofit tax-exempt status meant these Catholic institutions owe the government. Excuse me, these are Catholic charitable institutions that serve the poor and needy; they were built with love and sacrifice, large and small, over many years by Catholics acting out of our faith, and we are proud of them. Regardless of our political position, we do not stand by and see them attacked lightly.

Even former Democratic Rep. Kathy Dahlkemper, a Catholic from Erie, Pa., who cast a crucial vote in favor of Obamacare in 2010, said recently that she would have never voted for the health care bill if she had known Obamacare would force Catholic hospitals and charities to provide contraception and abortion pills.

Mitt Romney was in something of the same position with regard to Romneycare in Massachusetts. He didn't know it would lead to Catholic hospitals being ordered to give abortifacients to rape victims, and when he found out he opposed it, but without success.

The lesson for Republicans ought to be: When you turn over large sectors of the economy to government control, bad things will happen.

The lesson for Democrats? Don't attack the Catholic clan -- it's bad morals, bad form and bad politics.


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I am sorry, but to refer to Catholics as a clan or tripe is offensive to me
1 posted on 02/10/2012 8:09:23 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Well. Obama’s spin is certainly tripe.


2 posted on 02/10/2012 8:13:21 AM PST by eCSMaster (Excommunicate evildoers)
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To: Kaslin

It is an Irish thing. :)


3 posted on 02/10/2012 8:14:01 AM PST by narses
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To: Kaslin
I'm joining the Catholics wholeheartedly! How dare my government who's salaries I am paying including the self appointed almighty one tell our doctors they must kill the innocents. I heard on the radio this AM that Kenya had to change it's constitution to allow abortion in order to receive future funds from the US! The president held up funds until they agreed. This administration is murderous! God help America!!!!
4 posted on 02/10/2012 8:15:05 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Kaslin

Call me anything you want, as long as 0bambi winds up on the short end of the stick.

BTW, called my rep and sen (who are both up for reelection) and reminded them that this is an election year and to inform the resident that he can put this rule right where the sun don’t shine.


5 posted on 02/10/2012 8:15:19 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Kaslin

The Catholic Tribe Closes Ranks Against Obama’s Intrusion
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But, will it last until November 6th? Seriously.


6 posted on 02/10/2012 8:15:42 AM PST by no dems (Rick Santorum: The only viable alternative to Obama that we have left.)
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To: Kaslin
Well, they've been called worse.

I called them worse after they sucked up to Obama, praising him like the Messiah at Notre Dame, giving him trophies for being the most extreme pro-abortionist in the WH, ever...

7 posted on 02/10/2012 8:16:36 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Kaslin

No bias there. /s


8 posted on 02/10/2012 8:19:25 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kaslin

Sr. Carol Keehan, aka: Obama’s Nun.

What’s strange is that Keehan was pushing for Catholic hospitals to perform abortions, but not pay for them. How does she reconcile that?

Obamacare not only includes abortion, but assisted suicide, and Keehan was the top Catholic supporter of Obamacare, even testified before Congress in support of Obamacare.


9 posted on 02/10/2012 8:23:02 AM PST by Eva
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To: Kaslin

Another problem with an article like this is the parochial nature of the argument. It permits Obama to divide the Christian faith by making this an argument over contraception/abortion rather than the narrowing of the First Amendment Free Exercise/Establishment Clause into a Sunday in church, “freedom of worship”.


10 posted on 02/10/2012 8:23:50 AM PST by blue-duncan
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To: Kaslin

Here is my takeaway:
1. Obama, the former constitutional law professor, so miscalculates the overwhelming reaction that during an election year he imposes measures that violate the First Amendment right to freedom of religion. What a rookie - even after 3 years - ojt is not working!
2. Most importantly, if reelected, Obama will be completely unrestrained by the electorate and will impose as yet unknown government rules and regulations that will satisfy his sole vision of the world. This November is “make or break” for this country.


11 posted on 02/10/2012 8:26:49 AM PST by 02slider
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To: blue-duncan

The problem is the innoculation Obama has from being known to be non-Christian, even Muslim. He has said he is Protestant, so any article wishing not to be thrown away by saying otherwise just goes along with that.

That’s the cost of a slave mass media and a population that still won’t realize the corrupted nature of the information they are being fed.


12 posted on 02/10/2012 8:30:26 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: 02slider
1. Obama, the former constitutional law professor, so miscalculates the overwhelming reaction that during an election year he imposes measures that violate the First Amendment right to freedom of religion.


13 posted on 02/10/2012 8:33:51 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

“Even former Democratic Rep. Kathy Dahlkemper, a Catholic from Erie, Pa., who cast a crucial vote in favor of Obamacare in 2010, said recently that she would have never voted for the health care bill if she had known Obamacare would force Catholic hospitals and charities to provide contraception and abortion pills. “

Shoulda read the bill you stupid slut!


14 posted on 02/10/2012 8:35:27 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Kaslin

Carl Rove was on Greta last night and before I could turn him off, he started talking about the Obama war with the Catholic Church, and I listened.

Greta asked Rove if this issue would stick around or if Obama had successfully put it off until after the election. Rove said that this story isn’t going away, partially because some Catholics, led by Ed Gillespie, are starting a national movement for freedom to practice their religion according to the beliefs of that religion. Rove noted that Catholics are a very large demographic group in this country, that includes Hispanics and many union workers.

What Obama underestimated in this issue is that, while individuals who profess to be Catholic, may not follow all the tenets of their church, or even agree with those beliefs, they still respect the Catholic Church, itself. It’s like insulting a family member when Obama insults the Catholic Church. The fallen or disaffected Catholics, jump to the defense - and other Christians will, as well.

The fact that Sr. Keehan, Obama’s Nun has taken a stand in defense of the Catholic Church is proof of this.


15 posted on 02/10/2012 8:35:30 AM PST by Eva
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To: Bitsy

Obamacare opened up a whole new front for the killers of the innocent. The government death panels will dictate who lives and who dies though assigning economic value to the lives of human beings... The elderly and handicapped, who offer not economic value to the collective, will be the new frontier for the leftist killers.


16 posted on 02/10/2012 8:35:42 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: 02slider

The left is laughing its arse off. This is exactly what they want. All political debate is about time place and manner of “government rights.” Ultimate control of the people. The ball advances. The fact that they are distracting from the repeal issue is VICTORY for the left. We should be absolutely uniform in our rejoinder. REPEAL the bastard un-Constitutional legislation in its entirety!!!! Forget the Marco Rubio legislation that concedes the playing field. REPEAL!!!!!


17 posted on 02/10/2012 8:36:41 AM PST by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: no dems

Maybe it will suppress the lefty catholic/social justice types from turning out.
If they can’t bring themselves to vote R - maybe they will stay home.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 8:38:04 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: 02slider

Obama is merely reflecting the same attitude as Justice Ginsberg. To him and her, the Constitution is like that old Maxwell that “Rochester” drove for “Jack Benny” on the radio and TV. Just an old thing whom they are required to work with, but which ought to be replaced with something newer and more efficient.


19 posted on 02/10/2012 8:40:16 AM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: SaraJohnson

Well, I guess I am an elder who will escape the death panel because I’ll be working to pay taxes for the freeloaders for the rest of my life. We have to clean house of these arrogant, murderous, godless bunch of garbage. If we don’t though, God will eventually and it won’t be nice for them.
Of course, on the other hand, I may be picked first for the oven because I am a mouthy conservative!


20 posted on 02/10/2012 8:41:02 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Kaslin
I am a Christian who follows the ancient, catholic faith, practicing the Roman Rite in communion with many other rites. Jesus the Christ started this church.

Anyone is welcome to join and follow the fulfillment of Judiasm and human salvation by believing Sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture and The Magesterium.

In this case, I am not part of a clan and/or tribe.

I am American with Celtic roots. My Irish background is as "clannish" as I get.

21 posted on 02/10/2012 8:41:11 AM PST by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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To: Kaslin
I agree wholeheartedly with your comment.

Also

Even Chris Matthews on MSNBC is calling for a retreat.

Who the hell gives a damn what this jackass has to say about anything. He's so compromised and conflicted he should be in a mental hospital.

22 posted on 02/10/2012 8:42:51 AM PST by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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To: Kaslin

Interesting graphic. But it is incorrect on one point. Columbia College does not require a “thesis”. Graduation requires taking a senior seminar class and completion of a paper for that class, not a thesis.


23 posted on 02/10/2012 8:46:08 AM PST by Parmenio
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To: Kaslin

Not only that, it is not just Catholicism and her teachings at stake here... Catholics are in the spotlight, yes, but this is an affront to all religious liberties. If anyone thinks that mollifying only the Catholic Church on the issue of contraception, is all that need be done, then they are not thinking correctly on the issue. It is a first amendment issue and Catholicism, along with all other religious entities, needs to be fighting this as an affront to our collective religious rights.


24 posted on 02/10/2012 8:46:08 AM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Eva

I was going to mute Rove, but when the subject was 0-bama’s war with the Catholic Church, I listened also to what he had to say


25 posted on 02/10/2012 8:50:28 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Some Catholics knew what offal Obama was from the very first;
(notice the posting date of this video-May 12-2009)

approx. 3 minutes, well worth your time, even if you’re not in the least bit religious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVN2MMuiedI&feature=related


26 posted on 02/10/2012 8:59:01 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: narses

27 posted on 02/10/2012 8:59:34 AM PST by do the dhue (WARNING: this site is not liable for the things I say)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

It has completely stunned and bewildered me to see these “Catholics” suck up to Obama as if he were some god. These peoples are leaders. Why would a president of a major Catholic university invite the poser-in-chief to speak? Why would supposedly educated people not see him for what he really is? Why are they lured by him? I look at him (well, actually I try NOT to!) and see a smooth-talking snake who, as another freeper described him “oozes other-than-American from every pore”.

I can’t even stand to listen to the sneaky, hissing snake!


28 posted on 02/10/2012 9:17:05 AM PST by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: Kaslin

Bye Bye Assclown Obama!...


29 posted on 02/10/2012 9:17:57 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Kaslin

30 posted on 02/10/2012 9:20:39 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Kaslin

Well, I had to turn the channel the night before, when Rove was pimping for Romney against Santorum. I really think that Rove is on Romney’s payroll. The Catholic issue crosses the spectrum of GOP candidates and and even party lines, though.


31 posted on 02/10/2012 9:24:42 AM PST by Eva
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To: do the dhue

I suspect that Barky fancies himself to be the Pope’s boss.


32 posted on 02/10/2012 9:25:42 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Kaslin

BTTT!


33 posted on 02/10/2012 9:26:37 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: sneakers

Race trumps reason.


34 posted on 02/10/2012 9:42:31 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Mamzelle

“Well, they’ve been called worse.
I called them worse after they sucked up to Obama, praising him like the Messiah at Notre Dame, giving him trophies for being the most extreme pro-abortionist in the WH, ever... “

Let’s face it, the Catholic Church is a business. At their core, like all the other religions, they need money and power. The Catholic Church looks the other way for the rich and powerful, they always have. The Mormons are doing the same thing backing Romney, who routinely goes against his churches doctrines. I have lost respect for all of them. They have feet of clay when it comes down to taking a stand for their principles. All of these “Catholic Leaders” who supported Obama thinking he wouldn’t do what he’s doing now are living in la la land!


35 posted on 02/10/2012 9:44:59 AM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: no dems

“The Catholic Tribe Closes Ranks Against Obama’s Intrusion”
“But, will it last until November 6th? Seriously.”

Seriously, probably not.

IMHO


36 posted on 02/10/2012 9:49:18 AM PST by ripley
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To: Kaslin
Who Am I?


I was born in one country, raised in another.

My father was born in another country.

I was not his only child.

He fathered several children with numerous women.

I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me.

My mother died at an early age from cancer.

Although my father deserted me and my mother raised me, I later wrote a book idolizing my father not my mother.

Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

My birth records were sketchy.

No one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.

I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my new country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs and didn't follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.

I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguisingmyself as someone who really cared about them.

That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and embarked on a new career.

I wrote a book about my struggles growing up.

It was clear to those who read my memoirs, that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

I became active in local politics in my 30's then, with help behind the scenes, Iliterally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my40s.

They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything.

I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization.

Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me, as though I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.

I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances.

This bolstered my ego.

At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy...

I was very critical of my country in the last war, and seized every opportunity to bash my country.

But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country's economy.

I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better, and every poor person would be fed and housed for free.

I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess.

It was the free market, banks and corporations.

I decided to start making citizens hate them and, if they became envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.

I called mine "A People's Campaign".

That sounded good to all people.

I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics and was able to gain widespread popular support.

I knew that, if I merely offered the people 'hope', together we could change our country and the world.

So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include "persecuted minorities".

My true views were not widely known and I kept them unknown, until after I became my nation's leader.

I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with. I'm glad they didn't.

Then I became the most powerful man in the world.

And then the world learned the truth.

Who am I?


ADOLPH HITLER


If you were thinking of SOMEONE ELSE, you should be scared, very scared!
37 posted on 02/10/2012 9:59:55 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: crosshairs

God help us.

Yes. I am scared.


38 posted on 02/10/2012 11:13:55 AM PST by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: Kaslin

what is Cardinal-elect Dolan’s reaction to the ‘Compromise?”

I hope he hasn’t fallen for it.


39 posted on 02/10/2012 12:52:38 PM PST by go-ken-go (Ca)
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To: go-ken-go

just heard on 77ABC that Cardinal=elect Dolan, said, the compromise is in “right direction”... i was afraid of that.


40 posted on 02/10/2012 1:35:25 PM PST by go-ken-go (Ca)
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To: go-ken-go
Catholics have a lot of non-Catholic support right now...they're not in this alone by a long shot.

All in all it's just another brick in..The Wall



41 posted on 02/10/2012 1:51:27 PM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Each Congressman represents about 700,000. A majority of four hundred and thirty five voted for a bill they did not read.

How do these people sleep at night?


42 posted on 02/10/2012 3:43:45 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Kaslin
tribe? wtf?

unite Catholic right and left? Hello? if she means "unite Orthodox with reprobate", it'll never happen. The reprobates would never allow it.

43 posted on 02/10/2012 6:00:34 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (religion + guns = liberty)
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To: Jacquerie
How do these people sleep at night?

booze, drugs and rental sex, I'd guess.

44 posted on 02/10/2012 6:02:27 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (religion + guns = liberty)
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To: Kaslin

It’s not about Catholics or contraceptives, it’s about freedom of religion!


45 posted on 02/10/2012 10:44:07 PM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Kaslin

It’s not about Catholics or contraceptives, it’s about freedom of religion!


46 posted on 02/10/2012 10:44:27 PM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Kaslin

to refer to the Pres as “As a Protestant,” is offensive to ME, and I’m Catholic! he’s just scum...


47 posted on 02/11/2012 12:47:44 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: Bitsy

they’re also using aid money to force governments to accept homosexual marriage... That’s what our money is beingused for....


48 posted on 02/11/2012 12:50:54 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: no dems

we need to ensure it does last...


49 posted on 02/11/2012 12:51:19 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: LALALAW
REPEAL the bastard un-Constitutional legislation in its entirety!!!!

I am frankly surprised that you didn't get a number of responses to this post. The uproar over Obama's contraceptive/abortifacient decree is only one part of his intrusive government health care plan.

The goal of true Americans has to be: Put an end to the whole Obamacare bill by booting him and his crowd out in November.

Selamat tinggal, Barry!

50 posted on 02/11/2012 2:27:04 PM PST by IIntense
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