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Fox News Poll: Santorum Surges Nationally After Three-State Sweep [Ties Romney at 30%; Gingrich 16%]
FoxNews ^ | February 09, 2012 | Dana Blanton

Posted on 02/10/2012 9:57:42 AM PST by Steelfish

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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I do believe that Newt would have a chance against the MSM,

Ok. I am going to be fair here with you. You say that Newt can withstand the onslaught that will come on to Newt. Fair enough. Now answer me this truthfully. If you think that, then why was it that Newt folded like a wounded animal when Romney and MSM and Republicans all gained up on him. He feel apart in Iowa and South Carolina. If you don't think it will be a million times worse than I don't know what to tell you. Also Newt says that he cannot debate someone who tells lies. Obama will tell lies throughout the entire debate so how will he be able to debate Obama. The Lincoln-Douglas Debates will NOT happen. Obama will never agree to them and since he is the incumbent, he gets first pick on debates. So at most we will have is 3 and that might be way too high.

201 posted on 02/10/2012 3:02:19 PM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Cool. You were scaring me or maybe I was scaring you.....lol.


202 posted on 02/10/2012 3:04:27 PM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: sand88
A society of moral men, strengthened by religious freedom. A society of increasing prosperity brought about by limited government and economic freedom.

Therein lies the problem, what would their solution be, since I doubt they ever conceived it would get this bad, not that they didn't believe it could, but hoped that through moral education and enlightenment it never would.

Jefferson's solution may be the only one left now. They never accepted Payne's new view, but many here do.

203 posted on 02/10/2012 3:08:31 PM PST by itsahoot (I will Vote for Palin, even if I have to write her in.(Recycled Tagline))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

You know full well how politicians have to vote for cr@p thy don’t like. Reagan signed more of that cr@p into law than Rick ever signed onto.


204 posted on 02/10/2012 3:12:32 PM PST by itsahoot (I will Vote for Palin, even if I have to write her in.(Recycled Tagline))
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To: Marguerite
"The government knows better than you how to make you happy. The government will control your life for the "good" of all".

No they don't but they should know how to keep others from making you miserable. But hey, after all it seems to be their goal to do the opposite.

205 posted on 02/10/2012 3:20:19 PM PST by itsahoot (I will Vote for Palin, even if I have to write her in.(Recycled Tagline))
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To: napscoordinator

While Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House, earmarks nearly doubled to $14.5 billion.


206 posted on 02/10/2012 3:21:26 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

While Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House, earmarks nearly doubled to $14.5 billion.


207 posted on 02/10/2012 3:22:54 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Thanks for the honest answer.

I want the same things as you do in a candidate, and for that reason I have finally decided that Rick Santorum is our best choice.

The fact that some consider him a 'zealot' is not a negative in my book. You can't even print what some people think about Newt Gingrich, and that didn't dissuade me from seriously considering him as the candidate to best combat and beat Barack Obama. I have, however, finally decided that that person is Santorum.

I hope you recognize, even while posting that people are "Rickbots" that serious thought and prayer also went into our decision to support him.

208 posted on 02/10/2012 3:32:51 PM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: itsahoot
Therein lies the problem, what would their solution be, since I doubt they ever conceived it would get this bad, not that they didn't believe it could, but hoped that through moral education and enlightenment it never would.

I think our Founders would be surprised that we have lasted this long (especially without following Jefferson's edit about the Tree of Liberty)

Jefferson's solution may be the only one left now. They never accepted Payne's new view, but many here do.

Jefferson was more on the money about what it truly takes to keep our Liberties. It should be taught in every school in every grade level that government is an instrument of force and inherently EVIL. Government should never be viewed in a positive light.

As Washington so eloquently stated, “Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”

As I see things playing out, I am hopeful that we do not fall into total collapse with bloody civil unrest. About ten days ago, I posted the following as the only reasonable way out of this mess

The true solution lies in the crisis of such magnitude that the "several States" gather and vote to dissolve the Federal Union. The current socialist Federal government can then be replaced by a strict Constitutional Republic.

The dissolution will not be pretty, but it will quickly accomplish the removal of almost all Federal Agencies, the firing are very large numbers of Federal parasites, the dissolution of all Federal Courts except the Supreme Court (to rid the lower courts of Marxists). Remember, the Congress created all the lower courts.

A reconstituted Republic can quickly rebound and unleash the energy of a free people.

My reading of history tells me a solution that is much different that Mark Levin's. He says we took 80 years to get here (socialism) and it will take 80 years to get back to Liberty. I say societies that are heavily socialistic cannot transition to Liberty over time. Liberty (from Socialism) can only be realized in a relatively quick time frame(few years)

In order to defeat the bureaucratic class, they must be dislodged all at once and in a short timeframe. If not, they will work around those seeking Liberty. The only way I see a solution for the U.S. is for the States to dissolve the current Federal union.

Now, the trillion dollar question is how do you get leadership at the State level with true political Warrior spine and second, the circumstances that would warrant such drastic action. Short of that, I think a long decline to a Socialist third world sewer is in our future.

209 posted on 02/10/2012 3:35:45 PM PST by sand88 (Nothing on this Earth would get me to vote for Mitt.)
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To: napscoordinator
[Ok. I am going to be fair here with you. ]

Wow! thanks for being so generous with your sanctimonious position here at Free Republic. I greatly appreciate you giving me such a generous reprieve!

But you must be forgetting that your equally sanctimonious candidate will not fare even remotely as well against the MSM as would Newt. You are selectively forgetting the spanking that Newt has historically already given to several of the biggest and considered the best MSM representatives to date.

You see, Newt has already demonstrated to the entire country, that he stands up for what he knows or believes. Your little disingenuous diatribes, don't get past the last period that ends them, while Newts, are still reverberating in the hearts and minds of millions of smart voters.

And this contest is far from over. Now, your candidate is going to have to put his money where his mouth is.

210 posted on 02/10/2012 3:36:19 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: ohioWfan

Alright. I drop the ....bots.

Still friends I hope.


211 posted on 02/10/2012 3:41:54 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Mountain Mary

Roger that.


212 posted on 02/10/2012 3:44:05 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: American Constitutionalist
Wow, I see you are getting your talking points for your old friend and pal John McCain!

Now I see why you support Santorum. You make is sound like it was Newt who spent those earmarks. But Santorum spent far more in his own state, than Newt ever thought of.

You Santorum supporters are beginning so sound a lot like him. No wonder he will get his clock cleaned against Obama.

213 posted on 02/10/2012 3:51:26 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: jim_trent

Rick Santorum is dead heat with Romney in PA, too.

Don’t forget, Rick won 4 races, out of 5 in PA.


214 posted on 02/10/2012 3:52:03 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Hate to break it to you Newt supporters... Newt is done, finished as a Presidential candidate,,, his biggest donor Sheldon Adelson has pulled the plug on Newt Presidential campaign, I guess Sheldon Adelson has seen the writing on the wall...


215 posted on 02/10/2012 4:00:44 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Hate to break it to you Newt supporters... Newt is done, finished as a Presidential candidate,,, his biggest donor Sheldon Adelson has pulled the plug on Newt’s Presidential campaign, I guess Sheldon Adelson has seen the writing on the wall...


216 posted on 02/10/2012 4:03:40 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Again, Rick is in a dead heat with Romney in PA.

I’m a woman, and only vote for pro-life candidates.

Don’t be afraid of pro-life candidates. Remember Ronald Reagan, and even George Bush is pro-life.

It doesn’t hurt to be a social conservative, not at all:

“Republican Bob Turner won handily over the Democratic candidate in a district that no a Republican has won since 1923. His opponent’s vote in favor of same-sex “marriage” in the New York legislature played an important role in the Republican’s victory.”
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/social_issues_are_not_going_away_in_2012.html


217 posted on 02/10/2012 4:03:40 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Hate to break it to you Newt supporters... Newt is done, finished as a Presidential candidate,,, his biggest donor Sheldon Adelson has pulled the plug on Newt’s Presidential campaign, I guess Sheldon Adelson has seen the writing on the wall...


218 posted on 02/10/2012 4:05:23 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Marguerite

Hate to break it to you Newt supporters... Newt is done, finished as a Presidential candidate,,, his biggest donor Sheldon Adelson has pulled the plug on Newt’s Presidential campaign, I guess Sheldon Adelson has seen the writing on the wall...


219 posted on 02/10/2012 4:11:22 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: old and tired

Hate to break it to you Newt supporters... Newt is done, finished as a Presidential candidate,,, his biggest donor Sheldon Adelson has pulled the plug on Newt’s Presidential campaign, I guess Sheldon Adelson has seen the writing on the wall...


220 posted on 02/10/2012 4:12:04 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Okay. You win. Just promise you’ll do it again in November.


221 posted on 02/10/2012 4:37:30 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Sun

Thanks for your thoughtful post.

I’m sure in the fall we’ll be hand-in-hand against Obama and for our candidate.


222 posted on 02/10/2012 4:40:16 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Answer this question ? why is former financial backer Adelson going to turn around and back Romney now ?..
Well ? remember all the Newt supporters trashing Rick for endorsing Romney in 2008 ? now Newt's financial backer is going to back Romney now... how about that !!
223 posted on 02/10/2012 4:41:20 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Marguerite
Answer this question ? why is former financial backer Adelson going to turn around and back Romney now ?..
Well ? remember all the Newt supporters trashing Rick for endorsing Romney in 2008 ? now Newt's financial backer is going to back Romney now... how about that !!
224 posted on 02/10/2012 4:44:58 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Well, we will certainly congratulate you on discovering how to copy and paste! But the loss of one Superpac donor won't be the end of his campaign, since Superpac donors cannot contribute to individual campaigns under the CFA, written by John McCain. (Someone else you seem to listen to frequently)

Newt has still out raised Santorum by a considerable margin and has plenty to keep his campaign alive until the Convention. But we still give you credit, for a n00b you are very entertaining.

225 posted on 02/10/2012 4:46:21 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Sounds like Gingrich may have been Romney’s stalking horse all along...< /newtopian logic>


226 posted on 02/10/2012 4:47:25 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Stop fighting with me. I've conceded.

Go out and celebrate. Newt's done.

You've won.

Just let me know the game plan to repeat your victory in November. I'd like to get on board.

Thanks.

227 posted on 02/10/2012 4:47:25 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia; Joe 6-pack

LOL! Here! Give him a “6-pack” to celebrate with! (That’ll sure keep him busy!)

And maybe he will go somewhere else for a while to boot.....


228 posted on 02/10/2012 4:51:22 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

“I’m sure in the fall we’ll be hand-in-hand against Obama and for our candidate.”

For sure!


229 posted on 02/10/2012 4:52:24 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
" Just let me know the game plan to repeat your victory in November. I'd like to get on board. "

Forget about the feelings that some have for Rick Santorum, if all of us don't back him and support him Romney might just run away with the GOP nomination...
230 posted on 02/10/2012 4:54:09 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

LOL!


231 posted on 02/10/2012 4:54:33 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Joe 6-pack

Forget about the feelings that some have for Rick Santorum, if all of us don’t back him and support him Romney might just run away with the GOP nomination...


232 posted on 02/10/2012 4:55:14 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Here's a sixer, just for you:

...Go ahead and pour yourself a tall one!

233 posted on 02/10/2012 4:58:31 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Forget about the feelings that some have for Newt Gingrich, if all of us don’t back him and support him Romney might just run away with the GOP nomination...


234 posted on 02/10/2012 4:58:50 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Forget about the feelings that some have for Rick Santorum, if all of us don't back him and support him Romney might just run away with the GOP nomination...

I really think the choice is between Rick and Newt. Willard's been marginalized.

235 posted on 02/10/2012 4:59:12 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Yeah, calling me a NOOB, I have been here since 2004.
Go on, keep fighting Rick Santorum and his supporters, but if we don't support and rally around Rick Romney might just run away with the GOP nomination..
236 posted on 02/10/2012 4:59:50 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Joe 6-pack

237 posted on 02/10/2012 5:02:36 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
" I really think the choice is between Rick and Newt. Willard's been marginalized. "

Well, you know how Murphy's Law works ?
Yeah, Romney is a piece of crap and sleaze ball, but, until we are at the GOP nomination and Romney is out of the race and quit, need to keep working on making sure he does not get the GOP nomination....
238 posted on 02/10/2012 5:03:35 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Go on, keep fighting Newt Gingrich and his supporters, but if we don’t support and rally around Newt Romney might just run away with the GOP nomination..


239 posted on 02/10/2012 5:04:10 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: Steelfish

With Newtie’s money trough drying up, it’s time to pack it in and head back to his book tour....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2845115/posts


240 posted on 02/10/2012 5:17:26 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RasterMaster

Agree. Gingrich needs to put the interests of conservatives before his ego. He is utterly unelectable at this stage.


241 posted on 02/10/2012 6:20:07 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

AiT,

As an expat in Tokyo, can you register your vote in your primary via absentee ballot?


242 posted on 02/10/2012 6:26:17 PM PST by CDB ("...the liberals' praise is a warning bell you must heed. Trust me on that." - Sarah Palin)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Do you really believe those lists are an accurate representation of what he would do as President?

I think people forget what governing means, and how legislation is done. They don’t understand enough about bills to know that you can pretty much take any vote and make it sound evil.

The meme this week is that Santorum is a master of illusion, managing to fool an entire media hoarde into calling him conservative for 15 years, earning a Hard Core Conservative ranking from “OnTheIssues” (combined score 20 points better than Newt Gingrich - 90/0 vs 90/20).

When Gingrich retired, he had a lifetime 90 ACU rating. When Santorum retired, he had a lifetime 88.1 ACU rating. His last year was a 96, btw, while Gingrich’s last year was a 100.

These are so close to the same that the Gingrich folks instead like to compare the year “1998”, as if the world stopped then.


243 posted on 02/10/2012 6:29:55 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jim_trent

jim_trent wrote:
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So we are staking our hopes on a guy that couldn’t win his own seat in his own state?
>>

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That’s ancient news, my FRiend... For a host of reasons, the 2006 elections were horrible for MANY incumbent Republicans, not just Santorum.


244 posted on 02/10/2012 6:36:27 PM PST by DestroyLiberalism
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To: Gator113

ping/bump/thingie


245 posted on 02/10/2012 7:34:05 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"When Gingrich retired, he had a lifetime 90 ACU rating. When Santorum retired, he had a lifetime 88.1"

When one considers that Gingrich was a representative from a safe conservative district, and Santorum was a senator from a purple state, the only shocking thing about the disparity between their ACU ratings is how low Newt's is in comparison to Ricks. One would expect it to have been far more than 1.9% higher.

246 posted on 02/10/2012 7:39:38 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Right_in_Virginia; American Constitutionalist

I have to laugh whenever someone says people are less likely to vote for a candidate because of something some freeper says to people who already won’t vote for that candidate.

I say that because no thinking person would pick their presidential candidate based on what some supporter said on an internet chat.

And because even people stupid enough to choose their candidates based on how they are treated by another random person wouldn’t be stupid enough to admit how stupid they are.

I notice though that you are slightly smarter (it’s relative) because you are just saying OTHER freepers are that stupid.


247 posted on 02/10/2012 8:17:47 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Steelfish

Wow, you only got one snide response to that suggestion. Freeper heads really ARE exploding...


248 posted on 02/10/2012 8:25:13 PM PST by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I’m guessing you have no idea how many dollars of earmarks Newt obtained for Georgia during his tenure. I certainly don’t — nobody writes about it. And I don’t “know” how much Santorum did either, just how much people say he did, with occasional links to blogs that repeat the same things.

Fact: It was Newt Gingrich who created the modern earmark. Before he was in leadership, earmarks were the purview of the budget committees. Newt convinced his fellow republicans that earmarks could be good for everybody. After the 2004 takeover, he told all of them to vote earmarks to bring money back home to their constituents, to help them get more support in the next elections.

Santorum learned about earmarks and their political purpose from the master.

Of course, this whole “negative attack” presupposes that there is an inherent evil in congress directly controlling where money is spent. I reject that notion, and would rather have my representative directing money to a specific needed project than to let the machinery of the executive branch decide where to send the money with no chance of me voting them out of office.

The problem with earmarks isn’t that they exist, or how much money is spent. It’s when the earmarks are for useless things, or things the government has no business doing.

And since Gingrich and Santorum are running for PRESIDENT, who the hell cares about congressional earmarks? President’s don’t get earmarks, and there’s no chance the house and senate would pass an actual LAW banning them, and if they did, every president would sign it in a second, even Obama, because it would increase presidential power.

SO I have no idea why anybody would be basing any part of their vote decision on what Gingrich or Santorum did with regard to earmarks years ago.


249 posted on 02/10/2012 8:30:26 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Steelfish

Santorum’s record is like a pro-life Democrat’s, from south Chicagoland. (Big-Union)


250 posted on 02/10/2012 8:57:59 PM PST by unspun (It's the Sovereignty, Stu... | We are Gulag Bound)
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