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Navy names ship for former congresswoman Giffords
AP ^ | February 10, 2012

Posted on 02/10/2012 2:29:31 PM PST by stevie_d_64

..WASHINGTON (AP) — The Navy has named a ship for Gabrielle Giffords, the recently retired congresswoman from Arizona who is recovering from a gunshot wound to the head received in January 2011.

In a ceremony at the Pentagon, Navy Secretary Ray Mabus unveiled an artist's rendering of the USS Gabrielle Giffords.

The littoral combat ship is among the Navy's most versatile and can operate in shallower coastal waters than larger ships.

Mabus said: "God bless the USS Gabrielle Giffords and all who sail in her."

Mabus also announced that the ship's "sponsor" is Roxanna Green. She's the mother of Christina-Taylor Green. The 9-year-old who was among six people killed in the shooting. Thirteen, including Giffords, were wounded. The sponsor's initials will be welded into the keel of the ship.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 112th; assasination; bhosecdef; canada; gabby; gabbygiffords; gabriellegiffords; mexico; navy; shooting; usnavy; ussgabriellegiffords
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1 posted on 02/10/2012 2:29:39 PM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: stevie_d_64

In. The. Tank.


2 posted on 02/10/2012 2:31:32 PM PST by madison10
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To: stevie_d_64

Screw it....

Lets also have a USS Rush Limbaugh! (since we’re going down the road of cheapening how we name ships)


3 posted on 02/10/2012 2:31:45 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: stevie_d_64

There are dozens of other ways to honor Rep Giffords, but this practice of naming ships after individuals who had nothing to do with the military really bothers me.


4 posted on 02/10/2012 2:32:21 PM PST by skeeter
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To: stevie_d_64

USS Pandering


5 posted on 02/10/2012 2:33:10 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Now I know how the average lefty would feel if Fred Phelps were elected President.)
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To: stevie_d_64

Ridiculous.


6 posted on 02/10/2012 2:34:07 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: mgstarr

As a former sailor, I can say that today’s Navy is a friggin joke. I can’t believe how much it has changed since 1991.


7 posted on 02/10/2012 2:35:50 PM PST by hillarys cankles
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To: KoRn

I agree. But I guess all you need is to be a Democrat and get yourself shot.


8 posted on 02/10/2012 2:35:57 PM PST by OldPossum (ou)
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To: mgstarr

We wouldn’t have had to worry if she had a (R) after her name.


9 posted on 02/10/2012 2:36:24 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: stevie_d_64

No disrespect for Ms. Giffords, but other than taking a bullet in the head how does she merit having her name affixed to a warship?


10 posted on 02/10/2012 2:36:45 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (You cannot fix stupid. Not even with JB Weld.)
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To: stevie_d_64

YGBSM


11 posted on 02/10/2012 2:41:06 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: stevie_d_64

I thought you had to be dead before a ship could be named after you plus some sort of heroics on your part - oh, wait, there’s the USS Murtha (defamed the Marines) and the USS Carter (AKA USS Peanut) who depleted the Navy.


12 posted on 02/10/2012 2:41:45 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Regret Anything Because At One Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: stevie_d_64

Sorry for what happened to Ms Giffords, but this is insanity. Just looked up to see if there’s a USS Thomas H. Moorer, and couldn’t find anything. Moorer was a USNA grad, at Pearl Harbor, eventually Chmn of Joint Chiefs. He passed away in 2004. Is there a reason we have a Gabrielle Giffords in the USN, but not a ship named for a deceased Navy man who reached the top of the military?


13 posted on 02/10/2012 2:42:12 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: skeeter

Just think of the symbolism if this one gets sunk with one shot.


14 posted on 02/10/2012 2:45:55 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: All

Very good questions and comments...

I can think of a list of ship names that should be attributed to those sailors killed in the line of duty since the first Gulf War...

Naming one after Murtha (Marine, and dead democrat politician) was a mistake...Especially after what he said about the Haditha Marines, who were exhonerated of any wrong-doing...

Giffords...Well, I have mixed feelings about it...

They named one after US Navy diver J. Steatham after he was executed on that hyjacked airliner many years ago...

I always thought a CVN should be named after Bob Hope...I thought that would be more appropriate than most anythign else considering all the USO and charity events he did for the military over his lifetime...

Just my opinion...


15 posted on 02/10/2012 2:47:01 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: KoRn
Lets also have a USS Rush Limbaugh! (since we’re going down the road of cheapening how we name ships)

We started down that road when they renamed CV42 after that dead commie. Naming carriers after places where American patriots made their names shine, ships and battlefields, was IMHO wholly appropriate. Best of all were the ones named for places naval aviators fought and died. I still think there should be a CV named USS Yankee Station.

16 posted on 02/10/2012 2:47:43 PM PST by magslinger (Who cares if they are"electable" if they are going to govern like Democrats? -noprogs)
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To: All

Relax people, the ship has a complement of 450 heads and no bridge.


17 posted on 02/10/2012 2:50:17 PM PST by Celerity
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To: skeeter

And whose main accomplishment was surviving a head wound.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 2:52:23 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: stevie_d_64

More discussion at this link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2845028/posts


19 posted on 02/10/2012 2:53:25 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: stevie_d_64

Uh, why?

She got shot in the head. By a liberal extremist. That sucks, but what did she ever do for the Navy? Or the US in general for that matter? Besides getting shot in the head.

The politicization of naming ships has to stop. No ship should be named after a living person. We should go back to traditional ship names, not name ships after the political celebrity of the week. Whats next? USS Kim Kardashian?


20 posted on 02/10/2012 2:53:32 PM PST by Astronaut
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To: stevie_d_64

why are they renaming the USS Cole?


21 posted on 02/10/2012 2:53:56 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SkyDancer

Now even communist farm union organizers can get their own navy ship.


22 posted on 02/10/2012 2:56:05 PM PST by skeeter
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To: stevie_d_64

Coming soon: Naming rights:

“In a ceremony at the Pentagon, Navy Secretary Ray Mabus unveiled an artist’s rendering of the USS Solyndra”


23 posted on 02/10/2012 2:58:13 PM PST by bigbob
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To: stevie_d_64

I’m glad to see so many people had the same reaction as I did. It’s not even a question of trying to honor Gabrielle Giffords by doing this. The sole purpose is to keep the issue alive as a tool for improving Obama’s election chances.

They could care less about Giffords. They are USING her, as a political tool.


24 posted on 02/10/2012 2:58:32 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: skeeter
There are dozens of other ways to honor Rep Giffords, but this practice of naming ships after individuals who had nothing to do with the military really bothers me.

Amen. Look how long it took for us to get a USS Ronald Reagan, and no President in my lifetime was a bigger supporter of the Navy and the military in general than he was.

I suppose it could be worse, we could get the USS Baraq Hussein Obama (MMM MMM MMM)

25 posted on 02/10/2012 2:59:19 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Exactly, this is Pandering pure and simple, and it aint right.

They should have named it Seal Team 6.


26 posted on 02/10/2012 3:04:33 PM PST by Venturer
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To: YankeeReb

This reminds me of Eric Klinghaufer getting the “metal of honor “ for getting thrown off the Achille Lauro passenger ship in his wheel chair by a Palestinian. You can’t make up how misplaced that is. A”hero” is someone who does something beyond the call of regular duty and who stands out and usually kills a bunch of enemy soldiers. Standing there getting shot does not make one an icon. Did she save anybody? Have we lost our collective mind? I can’t even fathom how bad the navy must be these days.


27 posted on 02/10/2012 3:08:14 PM PST by tpuskett
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To: YankeeReb
The Brits had their HMS Terror, Indomitable, Eagle & Warspite. The US had their USS Enterprise, Texas, Kidd, & Bonhomme Richard.

I guess the modern sailor finding himself (or herself) fighting aboard the Gabby Giffords is just another sign of the times.

28 posted on 02/10/2012 3:10:44 PM PST by skeeter
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To: SkyDancer

I read someplace that the SSN-23 (jimma carter) is the only Navy boat known by it’s sail number and has no nickname.


29 posted on 02/10/2012 3:14:35 PM PST by alpo
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To: alpo

I really don’t think she deserved to have even a single fitting on the ship named for her.


30 posted on 02/10/2012 3:20:40 PM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: skeeter

Honor her for what? She survived, others died that day, including a little girl. She wasn’t in combat, she didn’t take a bullet for anyone, and it wasn’t a terrorist attack. She was giving a speech in a public forum to sell her political agenda, she was shot by a crazy man, she fell to the ground, was rushed to the hospital and instinctively fought to live. She didnt save anyones life that day. It is a slap in the face to every real hero in this country.


31 posted on 02/10/2012 3:21:03 PM PST by Toespi
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To: tpuskett

“This reminds me of Eric Klinghaufer getting the “metal of honor “ for getting thrown off the Achille Lauro passenger ship in his wheel chair by a Palestinian.”

I think you meant Leon Klinghoffer.

And he was not awarded the Medal of Honor, but merely recommnended for the Congressional Gold Medal of Achievement, which is a civilian award, recommended because Klinhoffer refused to back down to the terrorists, even in the when they theatened him with death.

I don’t believe the award was ultimately granted.


32 posted on 02/10/2012 3:23:43 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: stevie_d_64

How about Purple Hearts for the soldiers shot/murdered in the course of the War on Terror by the terrorist doctor in Texas?


33 posted on 02/10/2012 3:25:12 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: stevie_d_64
and America takes another one in the........

34 posted on 02/10/2012 3:25:12 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: stevie_d_64

What’s next? The SS Criminal Biatch?

Oh......I meant SS Nancy Pelosi.


35 posted on 02/10/2012 3:29:51 PM PST by CWSNTEXAS (Am I'm the ONLY Conservative Jew in America? What's wrong with you other schmucks?)
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To: YankeeReb
Look how long it took for us to get a USS Ronald Reagan

Respectfully, CVN-76 was the first carrier ordered after Reagan left office. It would have been completely inappropriate, very unseemly, to have a carrier named after him while he was still in office.

CVN-75 was the last carrier ordered while Reagan was President - in mid-1988. It was originally to be named the "USS United States", but the name was changed to "Harry S Truman" at about the same time CVN-76 was named.

Two points: First, having a carrier of all things named after Truman is an abomination. Just google "Revolt of the Admirals 1949" or "USS United States CVB-58" to understand why.

Second, it's somewhat poetic to have Reagan's name hung on a ship carrying the number "76" given the relevance of that number to our nation.
36 posted on 02/10/2012 3:33:29 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: stevie_d_64

So wrong for so many reasons.


37 posted on 02/10/2012 3:36:40 PM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: stevie_d_64

Let me suggest renaming all the MLK Avenues and Esplanades for Gabby Giffords as well.


38 posted on 02/10/2012 3:37:48 PM PST by Jay Santos CP ("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
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To: stevie_d_64
Mabus is a ‘Rat b@$t@rd who early on endorsed and made 300+ campaign appearances for B. Hussein Soetero. Failed and defeated governor of Mississippi, whose first priority as SecNav is “green energy.” And of course, he's the genius who is pushing for naming a Navy vessel after the traitor Murtha.

If that isn't enough: “In 1998, Mabus secretly tape recorded conversations he had with his then-wife Julie and a mutual friend (a priest) in attempts to resolve marital difficulties. The conversations provided a basis for Mabus to obtain sole legal custody of the children from that marriage.”

Total @-hole.

39 posted on 02/10/2012 3:38:32 PM PST by twister881
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To: stevie_d_64

How about the USS Palin’s Fault?


40 posted on 02/10/2012 3:40:15 PM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: SkyDancer
and the USS Carter (AKA USS Peanut) who depleted the Navy.

There are a lot of reasons to have disdain for Carter.

However, given his support (he had to sign the orders) for some of the first cable-tapping missions against the Soviets, I really have no issue with the current "special missions" boat (SSN-23) - a Seawolf-class sub heavily modified to conduct just that sort of operation - being named after him.

In that regard, he left Reagan a very nice legacy/present that was then exploited in the move to end the Cold War.
41 posted on 02/10/2012 3:40:52 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: stevie_d_64

To name a ship after a minor elected official whose only claim to fame is taking a round is pathetic.

Let’s hope the ship is a more artful dodger than Gifford


42 posted on 02/10/2012 3:42:04 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Toespi
A person can be honored for any reason, they don't have to be a hero.

But the point is, and I think we agree, that this particular honor is completely inappropriate.

43 posted on 02/10/2012 4:01:52 PM PST by skeeter
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To: OldPossum
I guess all you need is to be a Democrat and get yourself shot.

Beat me to it.

44 posted on 02/10/2012 4:13:45 PM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: stevie_d_64

Rather see it named after her husband, he’s a lot more deserving than she is.


45 posted on 02/10/2012 4:34:16 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Venturer
They should have named it Seal Team 6.

Ahem ... "USS DevGru".
46 posted on 02/10/2012 5:52:19 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: skeeter

I would think that we would want to use this honor for those who have shown achievement, contribution, and bravery to this nation. Gifford was a two term, average congresswoman,and the only thing that elevated her to the status of having a ship named after her was a crazed gunman and of course, she is a liberal. I assume it is the extraordinary “courage” she has shown in her fight to survive. I have to laugh, I know situations as we all do, and people who have faced diversity that makes Giffords recuperation look like a walk in the park.


47 posted on 02/10/2012 5:53:50 PM PST by Toespi
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To: alpo
I read someplace that the SSN-23 (jimma carter) is the only Navy boat known by it’s sail number and has no nickname.

Probably relates, in an informal manner, more to the nature of SSN-23's mission and capabilities. She's the most highly-classified "known" ship in USN service (I'm not discounting the probability that there are other more highly-classified black-world ships, like successors to the SeaShadow, in existence).

At one point she, like her predecessor USS Parche, was the only "attack" boat based at an SSBN homeport (the Trident facility in Washington State). She was joined there a few years back by her two half-sisters (Seawolf and Connecticut) to tighten up and streamline the logistics around the 3-ship class.
48 posted on 02/10/2012 5:58:59 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: af_vet_rr

Why? He’s another gun-grabbing, tea-party slandering, leftist.
He clearly knew within a few months that Giffords wouldn’t be coming back to duty, yet continued to stream the propaganda out. He and her other handlers taped audio together to make it seem like Giffords was up and speaking. They continually sent out fake Twitter and FB entries. He most likely is an adulterer, since he started courting Giffords while still married (oh yes, this timeline was online at one point). It’s one reason the daughters scorned and rejected Giffords. He has not a shred of integrity — at least she has the excuse of not being cognizant.


49 posted on 02/10/2012 6:36:19 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: tanknetter

It has no nickname because the sailors aboard will not utter the name of the traitor it is named after.


50 posted on 02/10/2012 7:10:41 PM PST by alpo
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