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Carville: GOP, your real problem is Mitt
CNN ^ | 2/10/2012 | James Carville

Posted on 02/10/2012 9:09:35 PM PST by nicmarlo

Memo to the Republican Establishment, Part II.

First of all, let me apologize for not getting back to you sooner. I realize it's been 15 days since I've penned (as the Mittster would say) my last memo to you. . . . Good manners dictate that I convey my most heartfelt congratulations to you for what you did to old Newt in your aggressive ad campaign. I mean, you guys really did him in. As we say in Louisiana, you made minced meat out of that boy.

You rounded up a bunch of Wall Street money and turned it over to the Willie Horton ad guy to destroy one of your own. You boys really crack me up . . . I don't think we Democrats could come up with something quite so clever. You have accomplished quite a feat.

The problem that you have now is not Newt. It may take a few months, but you will get him under control. Your in-house network -- the boys over at Fox . . . thought they had wired Newt up to go positive, but they found out it is difficult to control a Tulane man. Don't worry, he just got sucker punched. Soon enough he and all of his "baggage" will be sent packing. . . .

You know how it goes, you squish one gnat and you gotta deal with another. Your latest nuisance comes in the form of an anti-contraception activist and 18-point loser, Rick Santorum. . . . I know you don't need my help in disposing of this loser.

The problem you have now is the same problem you've had all along. It's the Mittster -- and it's a big problem. . . . [snip]

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: carville; gope; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newtgingrich; ricksantorum; romney
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1 posted on 02/10/2012 9:09:41 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: onyx; Lakeshark; Brad's Gramma

ping!


2 posted on 02/10/2012 9:10:48 PM PST by nicmarlo
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Memo to Republican establishment:

You need to give us a refund on your used Myth.


3 posted on 02/10/2012 9:11:29 PM PST by Milhous
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To: nicmarlo; DJ MacWoW

Must I read it all?

Okay.


4 posted on 02/10/2012 9:14:01 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: nicmarlo

CNN is a disgusting communist news network and James Carville should blow his brains out and save us the trouble.

Ask me how I really feel.


5 posted on 02/10/2012 9:14:43 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: nicmarlo

Romney reminds me of Michael Corleone at the baptism. Putting on the good guy act while his gang executes the hits he ordered.


6 posted on 02/10/2012 9:15:52 PM PST by Kenny (I)
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To: onyx

Yeah, it’s good and he’s right.

I was over there trying to see if they had any opinion polls....and here I found a gem written by Carville, of all things.

Let me know your thoughts after you read.

ty onyx


7 posted on 02/10/2012 9:16:36 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: bigdirty

I agree with you on CNN; however, they had better (more honest, unbelievably, than Faux News) on Colorado’s election night’s results....and this piece by Carville is spot on and deserving of attention, imo.


8 posted on 02/10/2012 9:18:16 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

If gas is $5/gallon next labor day weekend, as it looks like it will be, we could beat Obama with any of our candidates especially considering the true employment situation in this country.


9 posted on 02/10/2012 9:18:43 PM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: Kenny

I agree; I read someone’s similar post earlier today (perhaps it was your own). It’s so true!


10 posted on 02/10/2012 9:19:16 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; katiedidit1; PSYCHO-FREEP; Gator113; re_nortex; b9

LOL @ CARVILLE

The only state the turn out was UP and it broke a record was SOUTH CAROLINA, THE STATE THAT NEWT GINGRICH WON!

GO NEWT!


11 posted on 02/10/2012 9:20:06 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: RC one

Very possible. Add to that the incensed Catholic vote.....as well as those democrat business owners, perhaps seeing for the first time, how bad Obama has been for themselves, personally, and our future.


12 posted on 02/10/2012 9:21:53 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: bigdirty

This martian looking dunce makes me sick. He HATED Obama 4 years ago when he was supporting Hillary Clinton. Carville is a cajun from Louisiana and still despises Obama buts gets on national TV and defends him. The SOB also calls himself a Catholic but believes it’s OK to murder unborn children and for two men to get “married”. Carville makes me want to throw up every time I see him smirk and start laughing when he’s talking to a republican. And I am sick and damn tired of Carville and any other Obama-loving democrats saying that 98% of Catholic women take some type of birth control pill. Some damn number these idiots made up but they keep repeating it over and over on all over TV. Carville needs to crawl back under whatever rock he came from. He also needs to go back to Louisiana and tell the good ole boys what he really feels about Obama. He’s a two-faced hypocrite if there ever was one.


13 posted on 02/10/2012 9:23:08 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: onyx

Yep; it’s good he indirectly pointed that out, too.

I just thought this was the best thing I’ve ever seen him write (so unbelievable to say that about him LOL).


14 posted on 02/10/2012 9:23:28 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: NKP_Vet

That may all be true, but this particular article is spot on about the GOP-e and what they’ve done to Newt. And hinting at what they may have yet to fear from him because of what they’ve done.

He’s also accurate in his surmising Romney’s flaws.

IMHO, he’s made numerous valid points and observations, and the object of his scorn is the GOP-e, deservedly.


15 posted on 02/10/2012 9:26:46 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
The stuck on stupid PROUD - GOP establishment are deaf, dumb, and blind. They are toooo busy courting those ‘independents’. But I am not going to let ‘serpent head’ get off on necklacing the TARP upon Bush alone... But Bush basically turned over the domestic affairs to PROUD liberalism. He did have a ‘war’ to accomplish and so his trade off was to let the liberals have their way with him.
16 posted on 02/10/2012 9:28:04 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: onyx

Things look bleak for Mitt Romney. It is a long hard road to win the 1,000 plus delegates. LOL at Carville is right...I can just envision him going on...lol I think I saw him on Swamp People the other night:)


17 posted on 02/10/2012 9:31:59 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: RC one

Un-frikken-believable but Rasmussen has Bam’s daily approval rating at only -10. It’s been between -15 and -20 for over a year!

WTH? Don’t count on the gas prices affecting the drones who vote Democrat. They give new meaning to the word stupid.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 9:35:12 PM PST by Mountain Mary ("Mush is not going to carry the day" Mark Levin 2/09/12)
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To: Just mythoughts

Yep; what Bush did his last few years in office....I take issue with much of it. He oversaw what Bernanke and Hank Paulson were doing, what the SEC was doing (and not doing)....I cannot forgive him for these things. That’s about all I’ll say about that.


19 posted on 02/10/2012 9:35:21 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; All
James Carville wrote an accurate article.

In essence, the GOP and it's past voters this election have attempted to kill the only Republican that can win, Gingrich.

The most salient attribute of this article is the fact he can scorn us...tell us how we screwed up...signal every move in advance, and then make it all come true.

If any candidate besides Gingrich ( or Paul?) gets nominated, the GOP will lose in a LANDSLIDE.

LANDSLIDE!

20 posted on 02/10/2012 9:36:46 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: nicmarlo

“Come to think of it, thanks to the Republican-created financial crisis, there are a lot more poor people in rural and suburban America causing problems for you. In fact, you boys created a slew of poor people, didn’t you? But we will get back to that in late October.”

Screw this ugly jackass...republicans created all the poor people, huh?

How about ACORN’s senator, Bath-House Barry? He’s the foodstamp pimp, and ACORN saw to it that people that should have rented got loans for houses they couldn’t afford from banks based on their “public assistance, food stamp, Social Security benefits—ACORN called this “non-traditional” income!!!

Get bent, Carville- you ugly liberal snake.


21 posted on 02/10/2012 9:36:59 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: nicmarlo

could somebody explain this paragraph, please, because I think Carville is a jerk but he knows hard politics:

“The problem that you have now is not Newt. It may take a few months, but you will get him under control. Your in-house network — the boys over at Fox (I’m sorry, Greta, I meant the people over at Fox) — thought they had wired Newt up to go positive, but they found out it is difficult to control a Tulane man. Don’t worry, he just got sucker punched. Soon enough he and all of his “baggage” will be sent packing. Newt is fighting now, but he will come around as I am sure the Koch brothers are in need of a good historian. Get my drift? Newt’s post-primary employment is the kind of thing that needs to be discussed in quiet rooms.

what does “the boys over at Fox (I’m sorry, Greta, I meant the people over at Fox) — thought they had wired Newt up to go positive” mean?

what does “Newt’s post-primary employment is the kind of thing that needs to be discussed in quiet rooms” mean?

what does “Soon enough he and all of his “baggage” will be sent packing.” mean - it sound more ominous than losing in the normal process of primaries...

anyone who can help, thanks very much.


22 posted on 02/10/2012 9:39:35 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: nicmarlo

Louisianans know it’s MINCEMEAT, not “minced meat”, you extraterrestrial freak.


23 posted on 02/10/2012 9:39:55 PM PST by CatherineofAragon
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To: Mountain Mary

If we have learned anything this year, it’s that the electorate is labile. There are lots of independent type people that can be swayed. Those are the people we need to target.


24 posted on 02/10/2012 9:40:42 PM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: Mortrey

It’s Carville. Of course he’s not going to admit that the Democrats have, exceedingly well, created the number of poor in this country by their own hand.

Having said that, the point of the article is what the GOP-e has done to Newt and how they’ve got Rinomey as their choice....so they’re sending their attack dogs on all the other candidates. Partisan rhetoric aside, Carville’s right about much of his criticism concerning what the GOP-e has done and is doing to the presidential candidates, and how that will even likely drag the harm done and spread into the November elections.


25 posted on 02/10/2012 9:42:14 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: true believer forever

I think what he was trying to say about the ‘go positive’ is the talking heads at Faux News kept saying that Newt’s numbers were going down when he started going negative against Romney....so, they were attempting to tell Newt not to ‘whine’ and criticize Romney (that’s what I think Carville meant).

As to the other comment as to Newt’s being a historian, I took that to me an implied threat to their own skeletons in the closet; they might want to be careful: Newt might find a job exposing some of their own, post-election, should he not be elected. He might go on his own ‘seek and destroy’ mission.


26 posted on 02/10/2012 9:46:03 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Yep; what Bush did his last few years in office....I take issue with much of it. He oversaw what Bernanke and Hank Paulson were doing, what the SEC was doing (and not doing)....I cannot forgive him for these things. That’s about all I’ll say about that.

And then there was old Lord McCain poking his dirty finger into the eye of the American people every chance he got. I am so totally relieved he climbed up into Mitt's chariot. I am not sure I could have handled him really taking a stand for US.

Now it is 'funny' that Mitt's core funding seems not only to be the leftist pretend 'devil' Wall Street, but also the gamblers. Any more of these rich gamblers sign onto Romney's wagon and they will have to rename his campaign 'gambler's anonymous.

Some days it is really difficult to say our foreign enemies are more of a threat to US than the domestic ones, including old serpent head.

27 posted on 02/10/2012 9:46:31 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts
And then there was old Lord McCain poking his dirty finger into the eye of the American people every chance he got. I am so totally relieved he climbed up into Mitt's chariot. I am not sure I could have handled him really taking a stand for US.

I loathe him; and you're right, it would have been totally out of character for him to pretend now to care about the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Some days it is really difficult to say our foreign enemies are more of a threat to US than the domestic ones, including old serpent head.

I agree; what's even sadder is that so many Americans don't even realize it.

28 posted on 02/10/2012 9:51:31 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

I admit, I got so incensed after reading that portion of the article, I just blew up.....BUT....WTF!?! WHY would Carville deign to give “pointers” to the Republicans???
Unless Mary hit him over that ugly head with a fry pan (and I don’t trust HER entirely), what is his motive???


29 posted on 02/10/2012 9:51:54 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mariner; TitansAFC

AMEN to your entire post!
Titans, this is a great article from Carville.


30 posted on 02/10/2012 9:54:32 PM PST by matthew fuller (Obama has definitely earned a second term- 99 years in Leavenworth USP.)
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To: nicmarlo

Mockingbird?


31 posted on 02/10/2012 9:55:25 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: nicmarlo

I just found this statement: “Newt’s post-primary employment is the kind of thing that needs to be discussed in quiet rooms” and “you’ll get him under control in a few months” - very ominous like blackmail, or some sort of legal action, or more new skeletons... I listen to Carville when I can, I like the way he fights, just not who he fights...


32 posted on 02/10/2012 10:00:48 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: Mortrey

That’s the question. I have no clue. I can only think that, perhaps, in part, to taunt? Since he’s writing this in stone (very succinctly and in their face), it’s quite likely many more are whispering / admitting it behind closed doors and it leaked out. And perhaps too, now, because it appears too late. There’s really nothing the GOP-e can do; they’ve opened their Pandora’s Box.....and it will be to their own demise. So, he’s gloating too, perhaps.


33 posted on 02/10/2012 10:03:29 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: true believer forever

Only the politically naive ignore Carville. Has absolutely nothing to do with liking him.


34 posted on 02/10/2012 10:04:12 PM PST by matthew fuller (Obama has definitely earned a second term- 99 years in Leavenworth USP.)
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To: true believer forever

Maybe....I agree with your assessment on Carville. I don’t agree with his ideology, but he’s no dummy.


35 posted on 02/10/2012 10:04:41 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Mariner

Agree with everything you said.


36 posted on 02/10/2012 10:06:49 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: true believer forever
I just found this statement: “Newt’s post-primary employment is the kind of thing that needs to be discussed in quiet rooms” and “you’ll get him under control in a few months” - very ominous like blackmail, or some sort of legal action, or more new skeletons... I listen to Carville when I can, I like the way he fights, just not who he fights...

Remember the Florida debate when Mitt was lying through his teeth... such as the vast amount of money he made off his Fannie/Freddie investments were done so in a 'blind' trust.... http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2011/09/romney-pummels-profits-from-fannie-freddie/a2YN7UoFKXQHW1RzAiaW4J/index.html The liberals are going to clean his 1% clock, he will be the 'devil' of greed when they get finished with him....

37 posted on 02/10/2012 10:10:15 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: true believer forever

http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2011/09/romney-pummels-profits-from-fannie-freddie/a2YN7UoFKXQHW1RzAiaW4J/index.html

The above story is not new from 09/19/2011, yet old Mitt could not help himself but stutter around and pretend otherwise.


38 posted on 02/10/2012 10:13:36 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts
"he will be the 'devil' of greed when they get finished with him.... "

He's the junkyard dog of capitalism- make that Vulture Capitalism.

39 posted on 02/10/2012 10:14:34 PM PST by matthew fuller (Obama has definitely earned a second term- 99 years in Leavenworth USP.)
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To: matthew fuller
He's the junkyard dog of capitalism- make that Vulture Capitalism.

Oh, my, do you not know yet that the 'bain-washed' PROUD -GOP Establishment consider it devil talk to describe their Capital'ISM' as vulture economics? (Better described as Keynesian economics.) I have tried to comprehend exactly where I a mere peasant, would go out here in fly-over country to purchase me some 'Bain'!!!!

40 posted on 02/10/2012 10:29:44 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: nicmarlo

Interesting article.


41 posted on 02/10/2012 10:39:51 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Just mythoughts

Yes, and Rush has said the Occupy Movement was formed and promoted with him in mind... sort of the prelude to the 1% candidate... against the 99%.

And with mormonism, they have a very controversial belief system that i am sure will be examined in detail, and then the racial component of the mormon church on blacks until a couple decades ago.

So in romney, they get the super rich, white guy, with offshore investments, who belongs to a crazy church that used to hates blacks, and says stuff like I hate to fire people... almost made to order... if you are a dem.


42 posted on 02/10/2012 10:43:19 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: true believer forever

oops - says stuff like I love to fire people... :)


43 posted on 02/10/2012 10:47:44 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: true believer forever
So in romney, they get the super rich, white guy, with offshore investments, who belongs to a crazy church that used to hates blacks, and says stuff like I hate to fire people... almost made to order... if you are a dem.

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It seems stunningly foolish that the GOP-e would have decided to back Romney or it is a very cunning game of deception.

If we get a brokered with Jeb-- I'd say we have been had.

44 posted on 02/10/2012 10:54:07 PM PST by Irenic
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To: All

Carville’s spot on with this article.


45 posted on 02/10/2012 10:57:13 PM PST by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: true believer forever
Yes, and Rush has said the Occupy Movement was formed and promoted with him in mind... sort of the prelude to the 1% candidate... against the 99%.

IF Mitt buys the nomination, I expect to hear repeatedly in his own words, "I do not care about the very poor," Mitt will have to spend millions saying, but I said they have a safety net.

And with mormonism, they have a very controversial belief system that i am sure will be examined in detail, and then the racial component of the mormon church on blacks until a couple decades ago.

Isn't Harry Reid a Mormon.. Now some 'super' pac might hurl boulders about the religion, but I do not see Obama himself touching the subject.

So in romney, they get the super rich, white guy, with offshore investments, who belongs to a crazy church that used to hates blacks, and says stuff like I hate to fire people... almost made to order... if you are a dem.

Well for some convoluted reason the PROUD GOP Establishment are obsessed in courting those so called 'independents'... And the way Romney's campaign is set up it actually appears he is attempting to court the 1% that helped Obama bundle his way to the White House.

46 posted on 02/10/2012 10:57:25 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Kenny

Romney reminds me of Bill Clinton.

At the funeral. When he as laughing until he noticed the television camera.

Then he cried on que.

That is Romney. Romney is a liar, and Romney hates puppy dogs.

Shame on Romney.


47 posted on 02/10/2012 11:02:35 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (What if Obama isn't the anti-Christ after all? What if it's Romney?...)
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To: nicmarlo

And maybe you don’t want somebody like Newt wounded AND mad at you... ok, that gives me a little peace... thx


48 posted on 02/10/2012 11:04:58 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: RC one

Yesterday I just said the exact same thing to a friend who is agonizing everyday about the election. I told him to take a nap till September.


49 posted on 02/10/2012 11:08:39 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: true believer forever

that’s kinda what I’m thinking Carville’s thinking. He knows Newt’s a not just a historian, but also resourceful with his knowledge. “Get my drift?” :p


50 posted on 02/10/2012 11:10:12 PM PST by nicmarlo
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