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Santorum surges into the lead (National poll Santorum 38%, Romney 23%)
Public Policy Polling ^ | 02/11/2012 | Public Policy Polling

Posted on 02/11/2012 6:19:11 AM PST by Rational Thought

Riding a wave of momentum from his trio of victories on Tuesday Rick Santorum has opened up a wide lead in PPP's newest national poll. He's at 38% to 23% for Mitt Romney, 17% for Newt Gingrich, and 13% for Ron Paul.

Part of the reason for Santorum's surge is his own high level of popularity. 64% of voters see him favorably to only 22% with a negative one. But the other, and maybe more important, reason is that Republicans are significantly souring on both Romney and Gingrich. Romney's favorability is barely above water at 44/43, representing a 23 point net decline from our December national poll when he was +24 (55/31). Gingrich has fallen even further. A 44% plurality of GOP voters now hold a negative opinion of him to only 42% with a positive one. That's a 34 point drop from 2 months ago when he was at +32 (60/28).

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KEYWORDS: 2012polls; election; happydance; mittromney; newt; polls; ricksantorum; santorum; santorum2012
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To: C. Edmund Wright
We are in trouble.

What appeals about Santorum is his ingenuousness; what repels about Romney is his transparent disingenuousness; neither one is a strong reed upon which to lean a candidacy.

Gingrich's Achilles' heel is the gender gap. Otherwise he combines the biography demonstrating that he has led and the forensic ability assuring us that he can lead.

Gingrich made a great speech at CPAC demonstrating a matchless ability to articulate the issues and craft compelling solutions. But I want to touch on his direct personal attacks on Obama which at this point I think he must intensify and accelerate. It looks like the nomination is slipping away from him and he has nothing to lose. He has to grab the base now or the media will finish him off.

The more personal the attack on Obama punctuating his personal radicalism the better!


51 posted on 02/11/2012 6:59:01 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: GoCards

The end result of this campaign is going to be about forgiveness.

Which candidate do you forgive the most? None of the 4 remaining are paragons, so which get the most forgiveness for his past errors in judgement?

Whomever one selects, one thing is sure:

52 posted on 02/11/2012 7:01:55 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: ronnie raygun
I agree with weak, only because he’s an inexperienced fighter of evil.

No one who is unabashedly pro-life is 'inexperienced' in the fight against evil.

Abortion is the single most demonic issue in our culture, and anyone who strongly stands against it publicly is attacked by Satan himself.

Don't underestimate Rick's understanding of evil, nor his willingness to fight it.

53 posted on 02/11/2012 7:02:42 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: dangus

So this poll didn’t include Romney’s reaching out to the severely conservatives.


54 posted on 02/11/2012 7:03:36 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Anyone see the democrat budget yet?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Can you do two things. One support your point. Two state who you are for and why you think they are best in terms of electability, currently stated positions and past track records?


55 posted on 02/11/2012 7:03:44 AM PST by GulfBreeze
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To: Rational Thought

My concern is that many people out there don’t follow politics or even know who Rick Santorum is yet.

The GOP-E(unfortunately) and informed Conservatives are tuned in but...
It’ll take time to get the attention of the masses.


56 posted on 02/11/2012 7:04:05 AM PST by Mountain Mary ("Mush is not going to carry the day" Mark Levin 2/09/12)
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To: Rational Thought

The wheels have fallen off white Obama. Romney has no support among Conservatives and should quit now.


57 posted on 02/11/2012 7:05:13 AM PST by omega4179 (Internet ID:FU░&#BO)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I don’t think anyone needs to or should drop out. By switching the target on Romney we keep him off balance and he loses focuses and he’s seen as a negative only candidate. The only way he beat Newt was in Iowa he went 100% negative (along with Paul) to attack Newt.

I think after that Newt said...I’m taking Romney with me as I fall because he started this. Prior to that Newt was very classy in debates and wasn’t speaking ill of is fellow Republicans. But now he’s like a woman scorned and has his sights on Romney. Let Newt be the attack dog and petty fight with Romney...while Santorum can stay on message. Romney won’t be able to fight both of them with his standard 25% polling. Plus if Santorum implodes we have a fall back to Newt. Worse case scenario no one gets the delegates needed and we have a brokered convention—which at this point may be the best news.


58 posted on 02/11/2012 7:05:47 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Rational Thought

Seems to be a lot of excitement for Santorum here in Michigan.


59 posted on 02/11/2012 7:05:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SkyPilot

LOL, Sky.

The other candidates despised Romney and his arrogant sons and their rude friends/campaign workers in ‘08.

Have the slobbering pro Mittens Huck and Juan forgotten? What would have made them changed their minds?
They were promised somethin’ folks..


60 posted on 02/11/2012 7:06:51 AM PST by Mountain Mary ("Mush is not going to carry the day" Mark Levin 2/09/12)
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To: RygelXVI

Agree, Ryge. Michigan is key. I hope Santorum is working his fanny off in that state.


61 posted on 02/11/2012 7:08:04 AM PST by Mountain Mary ("Mush is not going to carry the day" Mark Levin 2/09/12)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Several threads and several non FR articles have made it clear over the past week that the best path to defeat Romney is for both Newt and Rick to stay in.


62 posted on 02/11/2012 7:12:36 AM PST by impimp
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To: Caipirabob

“I’d rather see the end of the GOP as a viable party and rebuild from ashes.”

The ‘end’ of the GOP will only result in a dem takeover. With that, they’ll expand Obamacare, pass amnesty and appoint young liberals to replace Thomas and Scalia (both are about to retire).

So yeah, good luck with that strategy. Once they have their permanent majority they will never go away, and the ‘new’ GOP that will rise from the ashes will probably just be a left of center version of the current one.


63 posted on 02/11/2012 7:12:39 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I don’t think Newt should drop out. This poll indicates what I’ve thought all along, if the candidate is strong enough to win they can do it no matter who else is in the race. And I believe in having a plan b if something goes wrong.

So Go Rick! Go Newt!


64 posted on 02/11/2012 7:13:13 AM PST by Kenny (I)
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To: Kenny

btt


65 posted on 02/11/2012 7:14:16 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Rational Thought

Real Clear politics had Romney up by +9 on 2/2.


66 posted on 02/11/2012 7:15:27 AM PST by Mountain Mary ("Mush is not going to carry the day" Mark Levin 2/09/12)
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To: ronnie raygun

The best test of ‘weak’ will be the next debate. If Newt can pulverize him the Santorum wouldn’t stand a chance against Obama.

And I think Newt should give it his best shot. Better to know now than later.


67 posted on 02/11/2012 7:18:27 AM PST by Kenny (I)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Give me a break! That Specter thing is old news. It was a bad decision but we got Justices Roberts and Alito in the process. Come on.


68 posted on 02/11/2012 7:19:30 AM PST by bjcoop
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To: EGPWS

Gingrich/Santorum
Santorum/Gingrich

IF we go this route, I would want Newt on top so that we could have 16 years of Republican President years. Newt being VP would just make us go through this “crap” again in 8 years which as you can see is PAINFUL. lol. I am not mad at Cheney for not running but it really would have been better had he run or at least step aside at some point to get a “ready to go President” for 2008.


69 posted on 02/11/2012 7:19:54 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
When Newt was way ahead I urged Santorum to drop out... now I must do that same to Newt.

How about Newt stays in and pushes Romney into 3rd place? he's only 6 pts back.

I don't think 1-on-1 is the best way to face Romney - if Santorum had dropped out, Romney would have destroyed Newt with negative ads and cruised to the nomination. 1-on-1 vs Santorum he could still do the same.

When you've got a Romney down, don't take your boot off his throat!

70 posted on 02/11/2012 7:19:59 AM PST by RygelXVI
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To: Lady Lucky
Move over, Dukakis! Make way for Mondale!

OUTSTANDING!*

*consider it stolen.

71 posted on 02/11/2012 7:20:11 AM PST by Dysart ("Don't worry, it's not loaded")
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To: Rational Thought

Santorum is a clone of W, no thanks. One big spending compassionate conservative was more then enough for me.


72 posted on 02/11/2012 7:20:11 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Rudder

But Santorum doesn’t have the style to carry it through to victory in November.


Style, schmyle. Obama was pretty stylin’. We need a constitutional conservative, not a prancing dandy.


73 posted on 02/11/2012 7:20:42 AM PST by Yaelle (Go Santorum!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“And unlike Newt, he’s an establishment candidate who endorsed Specter”

And Newt passionately endorsed Scozzafava in NY-23 and lambasted conservatives for supporting the more conservative candidate.


74 posted on 02/11/2012 7:20:46 AM PST by wk4bush2004 (RICK SANTORUM 2012!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Actually, Rick’s 06 campaign was full of his own evil. He swerved WAY LEFT to try and make folks think that Rickie could “be a good little moderate and liberal too.”
I noticed Newt and also Chuck Norris are starting to hit that theme softly this week. Might be too late, but they have finally woken up.

The only way to get Rick out of the race now is to get Donald Trump to endorse him. That's the kiss of death. ;)

75 posted on 02/11/2012 7:21:07 AM PST by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: Lady Lucky

How is he a loser? Is the number of states he won not enough for you?


76 posted on 02/11/2012 7:21:26 AM PST by bjcoop
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To: Rational Thought
Wow! Go Rick Santorum!!! Run Rick Run!

This is good news. I hope this becomes the unstoppable momentum we have always needed.

77 posted on 02/11/2012 7:22:20 AM PST by GulfBreeze
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To: PapaNew
But they cannot be sustained without MAJOR CUTS IN GOVERNMENT starting with CUTTING ENORMOUS WASTE, USELESS CABINET DEPARTMENTS

Brokered convention = Sarah Palin.

78 posted on 02/11/2012 7:22:20 AM PST by Kenny (I)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

It was so easy to demonize Newt,because there was so much there that was demonic.Did we forget DEDE?Fannie and Freedie?Millions made from selling his influence to the highest bidder?His own party refusing to let him continue as speaker of the house?Resigning leaving his state in the lurch?His good times with Hillary and Pelosi?Cheating on his wife?Oh,and he just lost his biggest money backer?
NO NEWT NO!!!


79 posted on 02/11/2012 7:22:24 AM PST by Craftmore
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To: Rational Thought
Being passed out at CPAC:

http://www.newt.org/news/cpac-handout-only-gingrich-offers-bold-conservative-change

80 posted on 02/11/2012 7:22:24 AM PST by unspun (It's the Sovereignty, Stu... | We are Gulag Bound)
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To: KansasGirl

Well lets wait and see how Ricky fares after he receives his sliming from Mitt next week. Newt rocked at CPAC. The only guy with a clue of what to do to restore the constitutional republic.


81 posted on 02/11/2012 7:23:13 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jpsb

So who are you supporting, Romney? Gingrich is collapsing and Santorum is surging and you’re badmouthing him. You want Romney as the nominee?!


82 posted on 02/11/2012 7:23:47 AM PST by bjcoop
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To: Rational Thought

This news makes me giddy. Our two front runners have pulled up lame and the pony running with the back of the pack is going to win by default. The last time he raced he lost by 17 laps. I would love to hear substantial issues from him, but he is just thrilled because he raised 3 million in twenty four hours and that someone loves him.


83 posted on 02/11/2012 7:24:08 AM PST by Toespi
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To: Rational Thought

I’m not, and never have been, a “Santorum supporter”.

I kind of “leaned towards” Newt somewhat, but I was never committed to a particular candidate — I realize that the most important goal is to remove Obama, and that whoever “the candidate” is will be but the vehicle with which to achieve that goal.

Having said that, the reason I see Mr. Santorum’s popularity rising as Mr. Romney’s declines is that — like him or not — Rick Santorum actually seems to stand for something, whereas Mitt Romney most obviously stands for nothing in particular....


84 posted on 02/11/2012 7:24:46 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: RetSignman
EXACTLY! Santorum has had a free ride this whole time. Mitt's minions are turning their guns on him now. We will see how he holds up. If he can weather the negative, lying, disgusting onslaught that Newt has had to endure, well then maybe he is strong enough.

We have 24 days until Super Tuesday. And we have seen in this race how opinions can shift on a dime. Millions of dollars in negative ads, poor or outstanding debate performances, so many things shift people's opinions. Why is that? Each candidate has a committed base of support. The rest of the electorate are shifting back and forth because they are desperate to have Obama gone and they are vacillating on which one will be the right one to do it. I would love to see if the polls asked how committed they were to their choice.

I have posted this before and I will keep posting it. We have a LONG way to go. Info from Real Clear Politics:

Raw vote totals:

Romney- 1,119,298; Gingrich- 838,352; Santorum- 430,787; Paul- 305,840
Delegate count right now:

Romney-90, 17 of those are non-binding
Santorum- 44, 41 of those are non-binding
Gingrich- 32, 3 of those are non-binding
Paul- 13, 5 of those are non-binding

Total Delegate count needed to win- 1144

85 posted on 02/11/2012 7:25:10 AM PST by georgiagirl_pam (Step One: SECURE YOUR DOOR! (it will give you time to get your gun!) mysafedoor.com)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Too bad Newt’s bombing. Santorum and Newt are both viable alternatives though but here you are with your condescending “Ricky”.


86 posted on 02/11/2012 7:25:28 AM PST by bjcoop
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To: alicewonders

It was boring old conservative men that founded and built the greatest nations on this planet. I’d take them in a heartbeat over the PR obsessed idiots we have now.


87 posted on 02/11/2012 7:25:28 AM PST by UKrepublican
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To: for-q-clinton

“By switching the target on Romney we keep him off balance and he loses focuses”

The problem with that strategy is that the delegates not going to Romney are getting split between Newt and Santorum, so in the end, Romney will still have the most delegates.

This 3-way race will hand him the nomination because he always finishes first or second. Just check the delegate count so far and you’ll see that this strategy is not working. Somebody needs to drop out.


88 posted on 02/11/2012 7:27:05 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
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To: Lady Lucky

Newt=Goldwater


89 posted on 02/11/2012 7:27:05 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Drew68

My sister asked her co-workers if they really believed the economy was turning around and they all said no.

Even if they fix the numbers, people know when they can’t find work, when businesses keep closing, when inflation is on the rise.


90 posted on 02/11/2012 7:29:21 AM PST by Kenny (I)
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To: Drew68

My sister asked her co-workers if they really believed the economy was turning around and they all said no.

Even if they fix the numbers, people know when they can’t find work, when businesses keep closing, when inflation is on the rise.


91 posted on 02/11/2012 7:29:21 AM PST by Kenny (I)
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To: Rational Thought
the fall of Romney.

I like the sound of that.

92 posted on 02/11/2012 7:29:21 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Drew68

My sister asked her co-workers if they really believed the economy was turning around and they all said no.

Even if they fix the numbers, people know when they can’t find work, when businesses keep closing, when inflation is on the rise.


93 posted on 02/11/2012 7:29:31 AM PST by Kenny (I)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Too bad Newt’s bombing. Santorum and Newt are both viable alternatives though but here you are with your condescending “Ricky”.


94 posted on 02/11/2012 7:32:01 AM PST by bjcoop
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Too bad Newt’s bombing. Santorum and Newt are both viable alternatives though but here you are with your condescending “Ricky”.


95 posted on 02/11/2012 7:32:01 AM PST by bjcoop
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To: RygelXVI
Think on the spectacle being a tag-team wrestling match.
First Newt was beating the heck out of Romney. Romney came back swinging wildly and got in a good punch to knock Newt off balance...Newt takes a step back, allows Romney to swing at the wind. Santorum is tagged, jumps into the ring, POW, POW POW. He takes it to Romney. Now it is Romney turning in the ring, trying to figure out who he is...maybe a severe conservative,...probably not. In the mean time Rick is still getting in a couple of punches getting, ready to tag Uncle Paul who will get a few licks in too. Newt is getting back on his feet, sees the real target, BO< and will be ready to take Romney on once again.

Each time one of the candidate jump into the ring the crowd roars....Their numbers soar. Loser will be Romney. He just hasn't figured it out yet. After all he bought the shiniest robe, shorts, gloves and the refs and arena are also bought and paid for by his blind trusts.

96 posted on 02/11/2012 7:32:07 AM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: alicewonders
When you let the media tell you that someone with the credentials of Rick Perry cannot be president because he gaffed some debates - you let THEM control the discussion.

I did not support Perry. However, I agree with your post big time. The problem is how can we change it? The press is very influential regardless of what we believe. I think that we can ignore the polls more than the general public but we are 10 percent of the public. When you see the “frontrunner” on every channel and every news release during that time, I can see how people would get interested in that person. However, when you see a candidate make an error and it is blasted all over the place, you could see how people would turn on that person depending on what the gaff was (American public, not us). I just have no idea how we are going to change this paradigm.

97 posted on 02/11/2012 7:33:23 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: bjcoop

management does not permit me to promote my candidate here, but it is not Romney, lol, I am a conservative. Newt is acceptable to me, Santorum is not, Santorum was Bushs’ man in the Senate, no more Bushes and no Bush clones either!


98 posted on 02/11/2012 7:34:14 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Rational Thought
There is no doubt that Santorum will be taken down and that will be easy to do. Mitt is in a tough spot. He can't take Santorum down before Newt is really dead, or Newt will surge again. If Romney waits too long, Mitt might not recover.

Newt is in a tough spot relative to going after Santorum too. He is danged if he does, danged if he doesn't. My preference is for Newt to go after Santorum in the near future, regardless of what Mitt does.

99 posted on 02/11/2012 7:38:18 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( (#withNewt))
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To: Rational Thought

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“King of the Hill is a children’s game, the object of which is to stay on top of a large hill or pile [while] other players attempt to knock the current King off the pile and take their place...Ordinarily pushing is the most common way of removing the king from the hill, but there are significantly rougher variations where punching or kicking is allowed” (Wiki)

Bachman,,Perry, Cain, Gingrich, Romney have all led the polls–Can Rick now stay on top? If he can, he deserves the nomination.


100 posted on 02/11/2012 7:38:23 AM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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