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Posted on 02/11/2012 8:48:22 AM PST by DouglasKC
Media Response to Anita Li, from the Toronto Star
Since you took the time to email us with your requests like we asked, Ill take the time to give you an honest follow-up response. Youll have to forgive me for doing so publicly though; again I want to be sure my words are portrayed the way I actually say them, not cut together to make entirely different points.
Your questions were: Q: Why did you decide to reprimand your daughter over a public medium like YouTube?
A: Well, I actually just had to load the video file itself on YouTube because its a better upload process than Facebook, but the intended audience was her Facebook friends and the parents of those friends who saw her post and would naturally assume we let our children get away with something like that. So, to answer Why did you reprimand her over a public medium like Facebook my answer is this: Because thats how I was raised. If I did something embarrassing to my parents in public (such as a grocery store) I got my tail tore up right there in front of God and everyone, right there in the store. I put the reprisal in exactly the same medium she did, in the exact same manner. Her post went out to about 452 people. Mine went out to about 550 people originally. I had no idea it would become what it did.
Q: How effective do you think your punishment was (i.e. shooting her laptop and reading her letter online)?
A: I think it was very effective on one front. She apparently didnt remember being talked to about previous incidents, nor did she seem to remember the effects of having it taken away, nor did the eventual long-term grounding seem to get through to her. I think she thought Well, Ill just wait it out and Ill get it back eventually. Her behavior corrected for a short time, and then it went back to what it was before and worse. This time, she wont ever forget and itll be a long time before she has an opportunity to post on Facebook again. I feel pretty certain that every day from then to now, whenever one of her friends mentions Facebook, shell remember it and wish she hadnt done what she did.
The second lesson I want her to learn is the value of a dollar. We dont give her everything she asks for, but you can all imagine what its like being the only grandchild and the first child. Presents and money come from all sides when youre young. Most of the things she has that are cool were bought or gifted that way. Shes always asked for very few things, but theyre always high-dollar things (iPod, laptop, smartphone, etc). Eventually she gets given enough money to get them. Thats not learning the value of a dollar. Its knowing how to save money, which I greatly applaud in her, but its not enough. She wants a digital SLR camera. She wants a 22 rifle like mine. She wants a car. She wants a smart phone with a data package and unlimited texting. (I have to hear about that one every week!)
She thinks all these things are supposed to be given to her because shes got parents. Its not going to happen, at least not in our house. She can get a job and work for money just like everyone else. Then she can spend it on anything she wants (within reason). If she wants to work for two months to save enough to purchase a $1000 SLR camera with an $800 lens, then I can guarantee shell NEVER leave it outside at night. Shell be careful when she puts it away and carries it around. Shell value it much more because she worked so hard to get it. Instead, with the current way things have been given to her, she's on about her fourth phone and just expects another one when she breaks the one she has. She's not sorry about breaking it, or losing it, she's sorry only because she can't text her friends. I firmly believe she'll be a LOT more careful when she has to buy her own $299.00 Motorola Razr smartphone.
Until then, she can do chores, and lots and lots of them, so the people who ARE feeding her, clothing her, paying for all her school trips, paying for her musical instruments, can have some time to relax after they finish working to support her and the rest of the family. She can either work to make money on her own, or she will do chores to contribute around the house. Shes known all along that all she has to do is get a job and a lot of these chores will go away. But if youre too lazy to work even to get things you want for yourself, Im certainly not going to let you sit idly on your rear-end with your face glued to both the TV and Facebook for 5 to 6 hours per night. Those days are over.
Q: How did your daughter respond to the video and to what happened to her laptop?
A: She responded to the video with I cant believe you shot my computer! That was the first thing she said when she found out about it. Then we sat and we talked for quite a long while on the back patio about the things she did, the things I did in response, etc.
Later after shed had time to process it and Id had time to process her thoughts on the matters we discussed, we were back to a semi-truce you know that uncomfortable moment when youre in the kitchen with your child after an argument and youre both waiting to see which ones going to cave in and resume normal conversation first? Yeah, that moment. I told her about the video response and about it going viral and about the consequences it could have on our family for the next couple of days and asked if she wanted to see some of the comments people had made. After the first few hundred comments, she was astounded with the responses.
People were telling her she was going to commit suicide, commit a gun-related crime, become a drug addict, drop out of school, get pregnant on purpose, and become a stripper because shes too emotionally damaged now to be a productive member of society. Apparently stripper was the job-choice of most of the commenters. Her response was Dude its only a computer. I mean, yeah Im mad but pfft. She actually asked me to post a comment on one of the threads (and I did) asking what other job fields the victims of laptop-homicide were eligible for because she wasnt too keen on the stripping thing.
We agreed we learned two collective lessons from this so far:
First: As her father, Ill definitely do what I say I will, both positive and negative and she can depend on that. She no longer has any doubt about that.
Second: We have always told her what you put online can affect you forever. Years later a single Facebook/MySpace/Twitter comment can affect her eligibility for a good job and can even get her fired from a job she already has. Shes seen first-hand through this video the worst possible scenario that can happen. One post, made by her Dad, will probably follow him the rest of his life; just like those mean things she said on Facebook will stick with the people her words hurt for a long time to come. Once you put it out there, you cant take it back, so think carefully before you use the internet to broadcast your thoughts and feelings.
She could also go to CPS and tell them her father shot her laptop and she’s afraid to be around him. Guess what will happen?
You must have missed the part where this was a response to the daughter trash talking the parents before "the whole 'village'." If you were aware of this you might also know that one of her comments was that she "can't wait until they are too old to wipe their own butts."
The daughter chose the venue. Dad just rewrote her script.
Attention Media Outlets: While we appreciate the interest you're all putting forth to get in touch with us regarding the video, we're not going to go on your talk show, not going to call in to your radio show, and not going to be in your TV mini-series.
Some of you think I made an acceptable parenting decision and others think I didn't. However, I can't think of any way myself or my daughter can ...respond to a media outlet that won't be twisted out of context. The Dallas news TV news already showed that in their brief 5 minute interview with the psychologist.
Additionally, there's absolutely NO way I'm going to send my child the message that it's OK to gain from something like this. It would send her a message that it's OK to profit at the expense of someone else's embarrassment or misfortune and that's now how I was raised, nor how she has been raised.
So I say thank you from all of us. If we have anything to say, we'll say it here on Facebook, and we'll say it publicly, but we won't say it to a microphone or a camera. There are too many other REAL issues out there that could use this attention you're giving us. My daughter isn't hurt, emotionally scarred, or otherwise damaged, but that kind of publicity has never seemed to be to have a positive effect on any child or family.
If you're a news outlet that wants to ask us a question, feel free to so via email. I'm sure by now my email address is easy enough to find. It might take me awhile to get to a response because I'd have to sort through the "Die you bastard" emails to find it, but we will respond if its something that we feel merits it. Otherwise, sorry... no interviews, no talk shows, no call-ins.
If we respond to anything, it will be on here, and it will be in a way that our words can't be misconstrued or edited for appeal to specific audience or shock value.
Now, I'm going to try to get to work for the day. Best of luck to all of you out there... and PLEASE give my phone a break.
I think it’s quite clear that this man loves his daughter. As a father of two teenagers, I completely appreciate his perspective and applaud his approach.
A lot of people already called cps and the cops...the showed up and guess what happened...post 22.
Did you read the article? I didn't think so.
The father is a jerk. He should have taken the laptop and sold it if he didn’t want her to have it.
Hope he doesn’t shoot the girl the next time he has a problem with her. He doesn’t sound stable regardless of what the cops or CPS think.
Hope he doesnt shoot the girl the next time he has a problem with her. He doesnt sound stable regardless of what the cops or CPS think.
I'm not sure how your evaluation is better than the CPS and the cops who actually went there and interviewed both him and the daughter privately. And spent hours doing it as well as essentially searching through his home.
All I can say is good luck to them both. They sound like they deserve each other.
He forgot to mention what happens next...ill-prepared kids who think it’s a cool deal to get $175,000 “FREE MONEY” from the government to “major” in Womyn’s Studies with a minor in Lesbian Performance Art, then get steamed when they can’t find an entry level job that does not pay the $150K/year which they think they deserve because they’re just so SPECIAL and GIFTED...oy vay......
See post 22
>>By destroying a valuable laptop. Could have achieved the same lesson by contributing it to a school or charity. <<
Bull. It’s his. The value of the lesson this taught, not only his daughter but kids around the country is much more than the bucks spent on this computer.
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Posting without reading the article, let alone the thread, has a long tradition here.
This is often *NOT* A Good Thing, as we are seeing here.
I think her lack of respect also set him off. She not only disrespected her parents, she indirectly disrespected elderly people in a pretty graphic way and she also disrespected the woman who does house cleaning for them. He seemed pretty angry at the way the daughter referred to “Linda”.
Yeah, I should have read the article, not that it would have changed my mind. Well, now they both have their 15 minutes of fame. Good for them.
Get real and quit whining like some “can’t we all just get along” lib.
There were safer ways to destroy the laptop, than 45ing it in that setting, but when dealing with bonehead kids, you sometimes have to get extra dramatic to get the point across.