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Santorum takes lead in Tennessee
CNN ^ | February 10, 2012 | Kevin Liptak

Posted on 02/11/2012 10:17:00 AM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands

Rick Santorum is running ahead of his rivals in Tennessee, a stronghold of evangelical Christians that votes on March 6, Super Tuesday.

Thirty four percent of likely Republican primary voters said they were backing Santorum, while 27% named Mitt Romney, 16% backed Newt Gingrich and 13% picked Ron Paul. The poll was taken by American Research Group February 8-9, when voters would have known about Santorum's sweep of voting contests in Missouri, Minnesota and Colorado.

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1 posted on 02/11/2012 10:17:05 AM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

The Left is gleeful about this hype.

Will the dense ‘Conservative’ electorate prevail?


2 posted on 02/11/2012 10:20:24 AM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Its time for Newt to drop. Santorum has the momentum and Newt has too much baggage. Fair or not he can not win now. All he does is split the Conservative vote - time to take your own advice Newt.


3 posted on 02/11/2012 10:21:29 AM PST by EagleInGA (Mittens & the NJ Fat Man? Really?!?!)
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To: EagleInGA
Your right ......... Santorum should drop!
4 posted on 02/11/2012 10:24:02 AM PST by Old Badger (Don't bother me! I still like Palin because she will tell like it is! (Newt too!))
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Go Rick Go!!! Great news!


5 posted on 02/11/2012 10:24:15 AM PST by GulfBreeze
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
It will be interesting to see how Newt's Out of the Ballpark CPAC speech affects Santorum's place in the polls over the next week. I hope EVERYONE will watch both Santorum's and Gingrich's CPAC speeches and compare them, on both substance and visceral appeal.

Godspeed Newt Gingrich!

6 posted on 02/11/2012 10:24:15 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny

I saw Santorum’s I thought it was great. (Not Reagan great but wins elections against Obama great.) I won’t see Gingrich until later tonight.


7 posted on 02/11/2012 10:26:08 AM PST by GulfBreeze
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To: EagleInGA
You don't know what "baggage" Santorum has because he's not been vetted, neither by the left NOR the right.

In the "baggage" dept., Santorum is considerably more risky than Newt because of that.

GODSPEED NEWT GINGRICH.

8 posted on 02/11/2012 10:28:33 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Add this to his national polling numbers and to his polling numbers against Obama. I heard he got a great reception in Oklahoma earlier this week too. I hope we get a poll from there soon...


9 posted on 02/11/2012 10:28:39 AM PST by GulfBreeze
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To: Finny

Have you considered building up Newt’s merits instead? I mean he is a good guy and you must have some good reasons for supporting him. Think about trying to keep your enthusiasm up by posting those reasons.


10 posted on 02/11/2012 10:29:18 AM PST by GulfBreeze
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

I believe Newt is done. He made too much of an ass of himself.

I expect him to take as many as he can down with him.


11 posted on 02/11/2012 10:30:27 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Finny

I am interested to see who wins the CPAC straw poll. Maine should be interesting tonight too.....Ron Paul may take that. Santorum winning the South is incredible. See having principles pays off.


12 posted on 02/11/2012 10:30:36 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: GulfBreeze
*sigh* Look, I don't tell you how to post. Do you the same for me.

GODSPEED NEWT GINGRICH.

13 posted on 02/11/2012 10:31:46 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny

Stop me.


14 posted on 02/11/2012 10:32:49 AM PST by GulfBreeze
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To: Finny

You don’t know what “baggage” Santorum has because he’s not been vetted,

Are you kidding? Bashing someone on the way they dealt with the death of their son can not getting any lower and cruel than that. I think after losing a child, the Santorum’s can take whatever is sent their way. Plus, they have already heard it all from haters all over the place.


15 posted on 02/11/2012 10:33:02 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: EagleInGA
If Rick Santorum ends up as our nominee, we are going to lose the election by 10+ points. Sorry, Santorum lost his home state by 18 the last time around - he'd be destroyed by Obama. With Santorum at the top of the ticket, we'd likely even lose House again and have no chance to win the Senate.

Not saying Rick should drop, he has a right to be in the race - but Newt is the only real alternative to Romney. We may still lose with Newt, but it would be like throwing a hail mary that might really force actual change. Gingrich would articulate conservatism like no one else in the race can (even if he hasn't always walked the walk), go after the media in a way few other politicians could, and otherwise potentially change the dynamic of the election. Santorum can't do that. Rick is a bland, not particularly charismatic guy who has been stereotyped into a corner as a social issues candidate - and this election will be about the economy not social issues.

That Santorum is actually doing well speaks more to how poor our field of candidates really is, not how terrific Rick is as a potential nominee.

It matters little I suppose. With Newt and Rick both in the race, the chameleon will eventually be nominated and we will go back to having another empty RINO shell as a nominee. Coulter and others will wet themselves with glee, but we all know Romney is not a conservative and can only win if Hussein makes so many mistakes he literally implodes.

16 posted on 02/11/2012 10:33:12 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

The only reason that Romney’s still running is to hand the nomination to Paul. It’s time Romney drops out.


17 posted on 02/11/2012 10:33:52 AM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Would like to see RS drop out. He doesn’t offer enough change in the direction of the nation.


18 posted on 02/11/2012 10:36:47 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: Finny
It will be interesting to see how Newt's Out of the Ballpark CPAC speech affects Santorum's place in the polls over the next week.

Are you really so callow as to actually believe Newt will do what he says he will do? Really?

There are a few women who knew him intimately, and accepted his most solemn promises who thought the same thing. If you think that said substantial fraction of the electorate hasn't noticed, I've got news for you. This is why, in instances when Newt wasn't on the ballot, Santorum beat Romney to a far greater degree when the converse was the case. Santorum's support splits equally with Newt and Romney, the opposite is not true, when Newt is out, Santorum gets the bulk of his support.

Where I'd love to see Newt is as Chief of Staff or Secretary of HHS. He knows the system and where the skeletons are likely to be found. Unfortunately, his preferred means are just as reversible as those he seeks to undo. In many respects, he is as autocratic as Zero.

19 posted on 02/11/2012 10:41:15 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There has not been a conservative American government for 90 years.)
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To: Finny

Go Newt!! Donated again today to Newt.
Our country needs his toughness,wisdom and willingness to fight Washington elites.


20 posted on 02/11/2012 10:41:45 AM PST by nurse-rn
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To: Finny

Not true. Santorum was our Senator in PA (I am only a recent transplant to GA). There is no doubt he is a Big Government Conservative, but (unlike the fraud from Mass) he is who he says he is.

On a personal level I would prefer Newt, and have donated to his campaign. That being said, Newt has not done well since his win in SC. At some point we need to get behind a single Conservative or Romney will win by default.

As far as the election defeat ... Santorum ran against the son of a Conservative (Pro Life) Democrat Governor. In addition 2006 was a terrible year for any Conservative. Anyone who understands PA politics knows that Santorum lost in 2006 because he was too far right, and his opponent had high (and positive) name recognition.


21 posted on 02/11/2012 10:42:15 AM PST by EagleInGA (Mittens & the NJ Fat Man? Really?!?!)
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To: Gene Eric

I hope not. Some people will vote just on abortion alone. Just because the media tags RS with the christian label should not be reason enough for these people to go out and vote for RS. Not sure Newt now saying he is a Catholic is going to help him with evangelicals. What a web the good ole GOP has given us all. I’m still with Newt.He offers the most change and is addressing the issues.


22 posted on 02/11/2012 10:42:15 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: Finny
"You don't know what "baggage" Santorum has because he's not been vetted, neither by the left NOR the right."

To the contrary, in 2006, Schumer was the head of the DSCC and Santorum was his number #1 target. Teams of opposition researchers went full bore for Santorum for over a year preceding the election, and the best they came up with was some questionable residency issue regarding his property taxes and his kid's attendance of a cyber school.

Rick and his family have been a primary target of the demonic homo and pro-death contingents of the left for the better part of two decades and have come up with very little in their efforts to destroy him.

You may not agree with everything Rick says. You may not like his sweater vests or his high school yearbook photo. You may object to his quiet competence and lack of flash. But to say he's not been vetted, attacked or slimed is simply either a reflection of ignorance or a deliberate lie.

23 posted on 02/11/2012 10:42:23 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Carry_Okie

What is RS going to do to help the country ? Not trying to be smart, but he is for Big Gov’t which lets face it, he is a liberal. Like Bush, McCain, Romney. People like this are the reason the country is in terrible shape right now. They offer no alternative to the democrats. They are enablers of Big gov’t democrats. Is he going to slash spending, what is he going to do or I should say would he do ? The answer I suspect, is nothing.


24 posted on 02/11/2012 10:47:52 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: napscoordinator
Right. Principles that include voting six times to raise the minimum wage, fighting to prevent Congress from cutting food stamps, increasing taxpayer dollars to fund Head Start, etc. etc. But hey, he's still married to the same woman! Just like Carter and Obama! Not like Reagan, though ...

Meanwhile, Newt has LAID OUT A CONCRETE PLAN of his course of action to accomplish specific things in office. In the past, once he figured out things on the Global Warming Hoax, he went to bat and argued ELOQUENTLY to stop cap-and-trade regulation. And like the conservative Heritage Institute, he once thought that individual mandates might work ... until it became obvious that the unintended consequences were enough to make it patently wrong. Your "principles" probably tell you it's okay to forget those inconvenient truths about Gingrich, the same as they tell you it's okay to overlook Santorum's extensive Big Government voting record.

Your idea of "priciples" is being lucky enough to have married wisely and being sanctimonious enough to harshly judge the "principles" of those whose marital challenges you have ZERO CLUE of comprehending.

"Principles" like yours now threaten to pay off with BIGGER DADDY-STATE GOVERNMENT, which is what Santorum's actual voting record confirms.

Gingrich ain't perfect, but he's better qualified, has better vision for REDUCING GOVERNMENT, and a lot more demonstrable experience doing it than Santorum. Santorum is demonstrably a socially conservative big government Republican, a lot like Dubya.

Godspeed Newt Gingrich.

25 posted on 02/11/2012 10:49:23 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Longbow1969
Santorum lost his home state by 18 the last time around - he'd be destroyed by Obama.

Anyone who knows PA politics understands this is because Casey is the son of a popular Pro-Life Democrat ex-Governor. 2006 was a lousy year for any Republican, but running against a socially Conservative Democrat in an anti-Republican year strips Santorum of any advantages he may have had in Western PA.

4-years later Toomey wins the state ... that is just how PA works. Philadelphia and the (liberal) suburbs are very hard to beat except when folks are upset. Then the state goes Red. You can not use that as a measure of how Santorum would run in 2012.

26 posted on 02/11/2012 10:49:37 AM PST by EagleInGA (Mittens & the NJ Fat Man? Really?!?!)
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To: Carry_Okie

What is RS going to do to help the country ? Not trying to be smart, but he is for Big Gov’t which lets face it, he is a liberal. Like Bush, McCain, Romney. People like this are the reason the country is in terrible shape right now. They offer no alternative to the democrats. They are enablers of Big gov’t democrats. Is he going to slash spending, what is he going to do or I should say would he do ? The answer I suspect, is nothing. We know that he is very weak on illegals. RS is not the answer, if you want a real change, go for Newt.


27 posted on 02/11/2012 10:51:01 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: BobL

LOL

that was hilarious


28 posted on 02/11/2012 10:52:19 AM PST by KOZ.
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To: Finny

First of all I didn’t say a word about Newt so why are you? I was talking about your nasty comments that Santorum has not been vetted and I just mentioned about how everyone bashed him over the death of his son. Now you added more Santorum bashing. So is you job around here just to bash Santorum or to up lift Newt? Either way you are poor in your duties.


29 posted on 02/11/2012 10:53:11 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: GulfBreeze

I saw all the candidate speeches, although I turned the sound off when Willard was speaking (he looked like he was in panic mode). Santorum’s speech was demonstrative of sharp contrast vs. the pastel platitudes of the other choices. Newt’s...more empty promises that did nothing but put me to sleep. The mono-tone professor was not the least bit inspiring and will throw everything out there to win over the gullible and easily duped.


30 posted on 02/11/2012 10:53:48 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Finny

I wouldn’t count Newt out in Tennessee. Freepers are much better informed than most voters, but even here I see a lot of running back and forth between candidates. Polls don’t change the substance of the issues we are facing, and we currently have only one candidate proposing real solutions on those issues and that’s Newt Gingrich.

Once the spotlight heats up on Rick, we may see a swing back to Gingrich. Santorum will not be our best candidate against Obama and the country can’t withstand another shallow American Idol Contest.


31 posted on 02/11/2012 10:54:59 AM PST by conservativejoy
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To: Longbow1969

>>If Rick Santorum ends up as our nominee, we are going to lose the election by 10+ points. Sorry, Santorum lost his home state by 18 the last time around - he’d be destroyed by Obama.<<

I used to feel the same way about his loss in 2006. How do you lose that badly? I no longer do, however. It was a weird year, PA was leaning Democrat, and his opponent was respected and ran as both pro-life, and pro-gun, hardly traditional Democrat stances.

As for his beating Democrats, this is how he got started in 1990 (from Wikipedia): In 1990, at age 32, Santorum was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives to represent Pennsylvania’s 18th congressional district, located in the eastern suburbs of Pittsburgh. He scored a significant upset in the heavily Democratic district, defeating seven-term Democratic incumbent Doug Walgren by a 51%-49% margin. During his campaign Santorum repeatedly criticized Walgren for living outside the district for most of the year. Although the 18th District was redrawn for the 1992 elections, and the new district had a 3:1 ratio of registered Democrats to Republicans, Santorum still won re-election with 61% of the vote.

Looks like he’s capable of winning Independents to me.

As for his support for Spector, Wikipedia reports: “ Reporters have observed that though Santorum and Specter differed on social policy, Specter provided him with key political staff for his successful run in 1994.”

That was when he won his Senate seat, beating a Democrat incumbent, something that’s usually very difficult to accomplish.

In short, I have no trouble thinking that Santorum can beat Obama. He certainly won’t lose by 10 points in the current environment.


32 posted on 02/11/2012 10:56:36 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Longbow1969

I see Rick as a Rino establishment candidate. I guess we’ll see what happens, but I just think phony when I look at him. Not about christianity but about being a conservative.


33 posted on 02/11/2012 10:57:06 AM PST by Carry me back
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To: Finny
Santorum is nothing like Mittens or McLame. Please!!

Santorum is a big government Conservative, but have no doubt he is Conservative.

Newt is a great Conservative, but I think we need to be realistic about his negatives. They are through the roof. That may not be fair or even based on fact (although he is no saint), but it is politics.

Here is an idea though, rather then tearing down the competition, how about explaining how Newt wins the nomination? I like him and will happily vote for him if he shows an ounce of life. Do you honestly believe he can turn around his very high negatives? Right now he looks like dead man walking to me.

34 posted on 02/11/2012 10:57:15 AM PST by EagleInGA (Mittens & the NJ Fat Man? Really?!?!)
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To: Gene Eric

seems to me the conservatives are winning.


35 posted on 02/11/2012 10:58:37 AM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

This Tennessean is voting for Gingrich. Day one in the Oval Office is just what this nation needs.


36 posted on 02/11/2012 11:01:09 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Huckabee won here in TN in 2008

McClain was 2nd

Romney was 3rd

I could see Santorum winning here this time...

or Newt...


37 posted on 02/11/2012 11:02:02 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Finny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uohP4gk0wU


38 posted on 02/11/2012 11:02:39 AM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: Finny
It will be interesting to see how Newt's Out of the Ballpark CPAC speech affects Santorum's place in the polls over the next week

You mean all two dozen people that actually saw it?

You seriously think one speech that 99% of the electorate never watches matters?

39 posted on 02/11/2012 11:02:58 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: RasterMaster

Wow. I don’t know. I’ve never heard Newt give a “monotone” speech. I remember during the whole “Drill here, drill now” thing he had the nation on fire. I saw him live as a speaker at a state political convention and he electrified the place.

OTH, I kept wondering how he balanced that position against his earlier pandering for lack of a better word (sorry Gingrich people) on global warming.

Santorum has been steady and the same for all these years. I like him and I will support him as long as he is in the race. I wouldn’t early on because I thought he was too boring and I have always held his Specter endorsement against him a bit. I have since seen that he can deliver and heard him explain the Specter endorsement thing adequately.

Santorum is the man. He WILL be the next president if this trend continues. (IMHO)


40 posted on 02/11/2012 11:02:58 AM PST by GulfBreeze
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To: BobL

The only reason that Romney’s still running is to hand the nomination to Paul.”

Now there’s an original analysis. I think Paul could beat Obamalini, but I don’t see how under any circumstances he could get the nomination.


41 posted on 02/11/2012 11:04:38 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Longbow1969
Since 20% of the ladies will not vote for
noot, how many points would McCain 2 lose by?
42 posted on 02/11/2012 11:05:18 AM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Yes, actually I do believe Newt will do what he said he will do. The Contract With America was delivered in large part by his leadership.

I won’t cry too many tears over a teacher who would now be labled a sexual predator, who seduced her student (Newt’s first wife). I imagine there was a lot of damage that carried over into his second marriage, to someone who also was unstable. Not everyone has a neat and tidy personal life, but I will take a Repentant Sinner over a Pharisee any day.

Newt is on the side of the People in the actions he plans to take. He is not about imposing his will, nor that of the Establishment in Washington. That they are opposed to him speaks volumes.


43 posted on 02/11/2012 11:06:32 AM PST by conservativejoy
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To: Norseman
You are dead on with your post about PA. Santorum is a blue collar Conservative. For those of us who were engaged in PA politics Rick was well known as a Conservative, even though he tends to be a blue collar / labor guy. That is the influence of Western PA where he was a Congressman, and should play very well in PA, Ohio and possibly Michigan.

Both Newt and Rick are solid Conservatives, and anyone thinking Newt is a better general election candidate against Obama is simply not paying attention to his very high negatives. I am NOT saying Newt is anything less then a true "big ideas" Conservative. I am just reacting to some poor debate performances following his SC win coupled with very high negatives in the polls. If I am wrong, then tell me why. No need to trash Santorum to make the point about Newt.

44 posted on 02/11/2012 11:06:53 AM PST by EagleInGA (Mittens & the NJ Fat Man? Really?!?!)
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To: Finny

In the realm of really, really desperate mudslinging, your post #8 could be king.


45 posted on 02/11/2012 11:06:53 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Gene Eric

The Left is gleeful about this hype.
______________________________________

Actually the RomneyBot Left in TN are probably crying ...

They were boastful and gleeful a few months ago...

But not lately...


46 posted on 02/11/2012 11:09:43 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
27% named [conservative] Mitt Romney...

The conservative, Mitt Romeny, is basically playing a game of conservative whack-a-mole. If he (the conservative) whacks at Newt in the lead, it will knock Newt's numbers down below conservative Myth's... while causing Santorums to rise above Myth's (who is the conservative in this race). Then, he takes a whack at Santorum, dropping him in the polls, that makes Newt rise again. All the while, the conservative, Romeny, remains steady... 27% (conservatively-speaking).

47 posted on 02/11/2012 11:11:27 AM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

if newt cant win the south..he has nothing but his own ego left...


48 posted on 02/11/2012 11:12:40 AM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: conservativejoy

I won’t cry too many tears over a teacher who would now be labled a sexual predator, who seduced her student (Newt’s first wife). I imagine there was a lot of damage that carried over into his second marriage, to someone who also was unstable. Not everyone has a neat and tidy personal life, but I will take a Repentant Sinner over a Pharisee any day.
_____________________________________________

Contrast that to Romneys cottonwool background...

George Romney picked Ann Davies out for Sonny Boy Willard when she was only 15 and took her into his own home to live so she could learn about Mormonism and how to be a Mormon wife...

Wille Mitty never did have to be alone out in the real world and fend for himself...

One wonders how he would have turned out given the same challenges that Newt had...


49 posted on 02/11/2012 11:16:02 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: eyedigress

Dittos. The Oval Office needs a deep cleaning, and Newt has my vote in Tennessee to get the job done.


50 posted on 02/11/2012 11:18:14 AM PST by conservativejoy
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