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Fast and Furious: Rep. Darrell Issa Blinks, No Contempt Charges for Holder
Big Government ^ | Feb. 11, 2012 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 02/11/2012 11:38:13 AM PST by Smokeyblue

For nearly a year now, House Oversight Committee Chair Darrell Issa (R=CA) and Attorney General Eric Holder have locked horns over Operation Fast and Furious. Throughout this time we have seen heated exchanges between the two during Congressional hearings, watched the DOJ’s narrative change more than once, and wondered why Holder has thus far been allowed to dictate the speed at which the committee can investigate him.

As of late, when Holder dug in and simply refused to the turn over the documents the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed, the contest between he and Issa turned into nothing less than a battle of wills. And Issa upped the ante when he drew a line in the sand and gave Holder until 5 pm on February 9th to comply with the subpoenas or face charges of contempt of congress.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; az; banglist; corruption; cwii; dea; dhs; doj; ericholder; fastandfurious; fbi; fraud; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; issa; lping; obama
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1 posted on 02/11/2012 11:38:18 AM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue

Coulda told ya.

The entire Repulsican party shares one testicle...and it’s pea sized and shriveled.

Either we get a third party starting, or we may as well just hang up the hammer and sickle, reload, and prepare for CW-II.


2 posted on 02/11/2012 11:40:46 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Smokeyblue

Is there ANY Republican in Congress that does not have a vagina?


3 posted on 02/11/2012 11:41:58 AM PST by Mr. K (Were the Soviet-Era propogandists as gleefully willing as our Lame-stream Media?)
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To: Smokeyblue

The Speaker is more than likely behind the change of hert.

Boner.


4 posted on 02/11/2012 11:41:58 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Smokeyblue

Honestly, why do we even BOTHER trying to assert what’s right? I can’t take it!


5 posted on 02/11/2012 11:42:40 AM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Smokeyblue

Indictments are more fitting. Holder, Obama and Napolitano. Slam them all in prison.


6 posted on 02/11/2012 11:42:40 AM PST by shankbear (The GOP and the mass media are giving us another McCain......thanks.)
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To: Smokeyblue

There is also a story from USA Today that can’t be posted here about Mexican drug cartel suspects as FBI informants.

I’ll post the link if allowed.


7 posted on 02/11/2012 11:42:54 AM PST by Smokeyblue (Obama's got NBC problems and birth certificate problems - a bad case of Cluster F**ked.)
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To: Smokeyblue

We already knew this. Same old, same old.

The GOP always caves.


8 posted on 02/11/2012 11:44:26 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Mr. K

Talk tough
Cry
Cave


9 posted on 02/11/2012 11:44:43 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: Da Coyote
Either we get a third party starting, or we may as well just hang up the hammer and sickle...

Frankly, I can no longer disagree with you.

10 posted on 02/11/2012 11:45:02 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Smokeyblue

As of late, when Holder dug in and simply refused to the turn over the documents the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed, the contest between he and Issa turned into nothing less than a battle of wills. And Issa upped the ante when he drew a line in the sand and gave Holder until 5 pm on February 9th to comply with the subpoenas or face charges of contempt of congress.

And so they squared off, and for any of you who wondered which man would blink first the answer has been revealed—Issa blinked, and gave Holder & Co. a time extension for turning over the documents.

Keep in mind, that throughout the time the back and forth has been taking place, the DOJ has given the House Oversight Committee just 6,000 documents, but they’ve provided their internal IG with 80,000 plus. The bottom line: time hasn’t been the issue, rather, the refusal to comply has. Nevertheless, Issa has given in and provided Holder with more time anyway. And to make matters worse, as of today the extension has no time limit on it.

** So as it stands, Holder has from now till the cows come home to play it his way.


11 posted on 02/11/2012 11:45:22 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: Da Coyote
Well he doesn't want the dhims to run against him, does he?

Socialist R vs Socialist D. Some choice. We keep you in power if you keep us in power.

12 posted on 02/11/2012 11:46:01 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (BO Stinks!)
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To: Smokeyblue

I lost all respect for Issa when he endorsed Romney. So this doesn’t surprise me or change my opinion of him.


13 posted on 02/11/2012 11:47:05 AM PST by South40 (Mitt is full of Shtt)
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To: Smokeyblue

I wish we had a viable third party. We will never purge the (R) party of its establishment whores!


14 posted on 02/11/2012 11:49:15 AM PST by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard / Wenn Sie etwas sehen, sagen Sie etwas!)
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To: Da Coyote

Sorry but that’s inaccurate.

Darrel Issa doesn’t have any balls at all.

Just a big mouth.


15 posted on 02/11/2012 11:51:58 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Smokeyblue; mickie
I watched the hearings a couple weeks ago. I posted at that time that Issa was comotose....i.e., I could tell right away that he didn't have the fire in the belly to actually nail Holder. I knew he would fold like a Mens' Warehouse suit.

It was nothing more than Kabuki Theater, all participants playing their good guy, bad guy roles.

Madonna would have produced a better hearing.

Leni

16 posted on 02/11/2012 11:56:24 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Smokeyblue

Skip contempt charges and straight to summary execution?


17 posted on 02/11/2012 11:57:36 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Issa blinks, Catholic Charities caves...seems like a trend, doesn’t it?


18 posted on 02/11/2012 11:59:13 AM PST by Lady Lucky (Public education -- government cheese for the brain.)
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To: Lakeshark; Responsibility2nd

Here’s our proof...

You know Boehner is behind this...


19 posted on 02/11/2012 12:03:26 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (When does the shooting start?)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Ungh.

This is so unbelievably stupid.

I'm going to need a shrink soon..........

20 posted on 02/11/2012 12:06:23 PM PST by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: MinuteGal
I'm always reminded of Hunter Thompson's dedication in his bazaar drug addled tome Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

To Richard Nixon who never let me down ....

I expected nothing of him and he never let me down.

.

21 posted on 02/11/2012 12:06:39 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Smokeyblue

I know that Romney and his lackies want to convince us that Newt is a flake, but when Newt ran the House, I don’t remember a SINGLE investigation being stymied by him. He let his chairmen do what they thought was necessary.


22 posted on 02/11/2012 12:10:17 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: Smokeyblue

What do you call someone who gets avoided, delayed, lied to, has information hidden from them.................Mr. Chairman.

I’ve been hungry for some justice in this country since 1993.


23 posted on 02/11/2012 12:10:26 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Smokeyblue

My understanding was that it was Boehner who put the kibosh on filing perjury charges against Holder, not Issa. He told Issa that he wouldn’t allow it sometime last year.


24 posted on 02/11/2012 12:11:06 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: old curmudgeon

That was the allegation I read recently. Weepy Boehner is no friend to the American People or to the Republic.


25 posted on 02/11/2012 12:12:22 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Smokeyblue

I’d appreciate that link, if they’ll let you post it. Fast & Furious reveals so much about the people we’re dealing with.

I’d bet money (if I had any. lol) that there is more to all the R caving than just politics. It’s too consistent and it is too much of an in-your-face spitting on the people the R’s need to support them. Just like the D’s that went along with suicidal votes after being pressured by the leaders of their party and then took it in the rear in the mid-term election. It’s something besides politics-as-usual that is getting these lawless results. There is something both the R’s and D’s fear more than just not getting re-elected because they are willing to fall on their electoral swords for an agenda that is destroying America.

But I’ll grant you one thing: it will not be Congress or federal law enforcement that finds out what the real bargaining chip Soros/Obama has on these R’s and D’s alike. If that’s ever revealed it will be through an act of God that neither Congress nor federal law enforcement were able to suppress.

I’m praying like crazy for exactly that to happen.


26 posted on 02/11/2012 12:14:13 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: bigbob

He can’t do it if Weepy Boehner won’t allow him to. From what I have read, Boehner told Issa it was a no go sometime last year.


27 posted on 02/11/2012 12:14:21 PM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Lakeshark

ls...someone said on that ‘coach is right’ thread on Tuesday that nothing is going to change without violence. I can’t say that I disagree with that outlook.

(opening wine bottle here...cheaper than a shrink)


28 posted on 02/11/2012 12:15:33 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (When does the shooting start?)
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To: Sudetenland

What’s your source on that, or can you give me any leads as to the timing of when Boehner said that?

There is more afoot here than meets the eye. I’m convinced of it.


29 posted on 02/11/2012 12:16:24 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Smokeyblue

The “C’s” of GOP “leadership”
-Cringe
-Cower
-Cooperate
-Collaborate
-Capitulate
-Cave


30 posted on 02/11/2012 12:20:01 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Rand Paul for President 2016 (FR still rocks!!))
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To: Sudetenland

Boehner is a bed wetter. He needs to go.


31 posted on 02/11/2012 12:20:01 PM PST by Buddy Sorrell (It's Algebra, Uncle Fletcher.)
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To: old curmudgeon

Yup- He is all smoke and mirrors. Yet we already knew that.


32 posted on 02/11/2012 12:21:12 PM PST by Revel
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To: morphing libertarian
This choice of weakness is another nail in the coffin of the Republican Party.
We need a conservative third party now.
TWB
33 posted on 02/11/2012 12:22:33 PM PST by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Agreed, pass the vino (better be a good one), and we'll send Boehner to a shrink............

To say this is a bitter disappointment doesn't come near to what we should be feeling. Holder could have been brought down if they had the courage, and he may be the most necessary one to bring down. His position as AG is very powerful as we brace for the upcoming election, and he is one of the most corrupt gubmint officials we have ever seen.

34 posted on 02/11/2012 12:24:20 PM PST by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: Smokeyblue

Just a thought but if Obama is defeated in November, how would it affect the “Fast and Furious” issue other than the fact that Obama and Holder would be gone.


35 posted on 02/11/2012 12:28:31 PM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: Smokeyblue
Congressional investigators backing off?

IMO it is no small factor that investigators of F&F outside of Congress and government may have connected mega-bank HSBC to F&F -- and that means Washington, D.C. is in a panic.

Because not only are the trillion-dollar-a-year illegal drugs, the terrorists, the government shenanigans and all who use ILLEGAL international funds transfers in danger of being exposed.. but all in Washington, D.C. who get payoffs from these activities are now in danger of being expose.

36 posted on 02/11/2012 12:29:45 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Lakeshark

Just a white zin but will definitely take the edge off.

Letting this man off, with all, not just fast and furious (the most serious offense), of the infractions that has been committed on his watch pretty much shows me what the elections will be like this year.


37 posted on 02/11/2012 12:31:52 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (When does the shooting start?)
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To: papertyger
I can't disagree with him either. Whoever is the Republican nominee, a third party is needed anyway.

Even Ben Shapiro commented that the Republican party is like the latter day Whig party.

38 posted on 02/11/2012 12:38:56 PM PST by Stepan12
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To: Smokeyblue
Looks like the O’thugs finally found Issa’s Achilles heel.
39 posted on 02/11/2012 12:44:36 PM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: MinuteGal

I kept telling folks a special prosecutor and Republican congress could not bust Clinton for his crimes in the 90, so why get all exited about this show now?

Traitor trash need to be disposed of like the garbage they are.


40 posted on 02/11/2012 12:46:17 PM PST by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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41 posted on 02/11/2012 12:52:17 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Sudetenland

http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979016705

Anyone else but me remember how this story about Boehner and his mistresses surfaced and then disappeared before the 2010 mid term election?


42 posted on 02/11/2012 12:53:35 PM PST by Bluebird Singing
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To: rawcatslyentist

“Socialist R vs Socialist D. Some choice.”

They all love big govenment. That’s what they do; spend other people’s money for a living.

The most terrifying thought to the denizens of DC is losing their cushy job and having to work in the real world. Regardles of political stripe (purely a designation of convenience and not principle), they will say or do anything to stay in office in order to avoid the indignity of actually having to produce a useful product or service to society.


43 posted on 02/11/2012 12:54:13 PM PST by Starboard
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To: butterdezillion
Why aren't the critics going after the last Bush administration where this whole thing began. AG Mulkasey had to have approved "Fast and Furious" and the Obama administration came along and decided to continue it. I think they decided the threshhold on what is and is not legal, had been lowered so they just embelished it by involving many other agencies of the federal government.

Many times when something like this happens in our government the comment is, "I was not protecting the man, I was protecting the presidency". Well, after the news this past week on John Kennedy and Miss Mi Mi, I believe there is not much left to protect.

44 posted on 02/11/2012 12:58:20 PM PST by TiaS
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To: old curmudgeon

That is what I’ve been reading and I have unloaded on Boehner writing to him at U.S.Congress.gov.
Eunich piece of crap.


45 posted on 02/11/2012 1:07:19 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: butterdezillion

I’d bet money (if I had any. lol) that there is more to all the R caving than just politics. It’s too consistent and it is too much of an in-your-face spitting on the people the R’s need to support them. Just like the D’s that went along with suicidal votes after being pressured by the leaders of their party and then took it in the rear in the mid-term election. It’s something besides politics-as-usual that is getting these lawless results. There is something both the R’s and D’s fear more than just not getting re-elected because they are willing to fall on their electoral swords for an agenda that is destroying America.


Amen!!!!!! These guys must be being blackmailed, threatened, their families threatened - something. No one seems to have the moral fortitude to do what’s right. What are they possibly being threatened with that they even do things that are political suicide, as you said?

I’m praying for that act of God - that he’ll have mercy on our country once again, altho we don’t deserve it. Such corruption..... :-(


46 posted on 02/11/2012 1:08:44 PM PST by boxlunch
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To: SF_Redux

“Nevertheless, Issa has given in and provided Holder with more time anyway. And to make matters worse, as of today the extension has no time limit on it.”

I’ll bet that there’s a “Boner” in the woodpile!


47 posted on 02/11/2012 1:08:44 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: Smokeyblue

This time next year F&F will be a distant and almost forgotten memory. The only thing we will remember about is that we got sold out-—again.

I hope I am wrong, we shall see.


48 posted on 02/11/2012 1:10:23 PM PST by Venturer
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To: TiaS

Because when Bush did it he had the approval of the Mexican government and actually put tracking devices in the guns - unlike now, when neither of those is the case any more.

Under Holder it’s a whole different bird; it’s not even a weapons tracking program, it’s simply a drug cartel arming program. An act of war against Mexico in an attempt to get the Mexican government to pressure the US to get rid of the 2nd amendment.


49 posted on 02/11/2012 1:11:18 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Bluebird Singing

Refresh me on the particulars. Boehner was the minority whip since 2006 when Pelosi became House speaker. So the dems were in power in Congress when all the Fanny and Freddie, etc stuff hit the fan. Boehner was the top guy for the R’s in the House.

Now you’re mentioning that before the 2010 midterm there was a story about Boehner that surfaced. Was Boehner running for re-election then?

After the landslide happened in 2010 was there anybody who challenged Boehner to be the Speaker of the House? How did that go?

Anybody know how Boehner stood on TARP?

Who was been the R leader of the Senate between 2006 until now? I know I should know it but my mind is having a brain freeze right now. I’m trying to sort out a bunch of stuff.

I think some things might be starting to make sense.


50 posted on 02/11/2012 1:19:25 PM PST by butterdezillion
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