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Shootout at the 'True Grit' corral: Which film wins?
NBC ^ | Feb 18 | Mark Blankenship

Posted on 02/11/2012 7:35:30 PM PST by WilliamIII

The two versions of "True Grit" are like Athens, Greece, and Athens, Georgia: They've got the same name, but they're in totally different worlds. Yet for all their differences, both Westerns found plenty of fans and got plenty of Oscar attention. John Wayne was named Best Actor for the 1969 original, and the 2010 remake, directed by the Coen brothers, competes for 10 Oscars on Feb. 27, including Best Picture and Best Director. So which movie is better? Take a look at these comparisons and decide which version you think is the truest … and the grittiest.

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The new one didn't win a single Oscar, or am I wrong?
1 posted on 02/11/2012 7:35:37 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

It didn’t win anything if I remember correct.

And John Wayne was the best. No doubt about it.


2 posted on 02/11/2012 7:36:53 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: WilliamIII

I love the Duke and the first one . . . but the second one was my favorite. No real reason, just liked it a little better. Seemed more “real” I suppose.


3 posted on 02/11/2012 7:38:11 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: WilliamIII

Duke > Coen bros. All day long.


4 posted on 02/11/2012 7:41:14 PM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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To: WilliamIII

No, it didn’t. I think Hailee Steinfeld should have won for supporting actress, though.


5 posted on 02/11/2012 7:41:20 PM PST by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: Central Planning Czar)
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To: WilliamIII
Well, little sister, if you can't tell, I can't help you.

Hyaa!!!

/johnny

6 posted on 02/11/2012 7:41:20 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: WilliamIII
I like true grits, but only have time for instant in the morning...

I vote for John Wayne.

7 posted on 02/11/2012 7:43:55 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Yo Mitt - Money can't buy you love...)
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To: RIghtwardHo

The first one was better IMO. It’s probably my favorite movie to watch while drinking too a little much hard liquor.


8 posted on 02/11/2012 7:46:39 PM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: WilliamIII

I’ll go with the original.


9 posted on 02/11/2012 7:47:16 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: WilliamIII

I liked Jeff Bridges but Brolin and a few others spoke unnaturally formal for their characters. Didn’t fit. And the girl was okay but not great as an actress. People wanted to love the movie and I think that was part of the hype.


10 posted on 02/11/2012 7:47:29 PM PST by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: RIghtwardHo

My book Club just read True Grit. We agreed the book was at least as much about the grit of the girl as about Rooster Cogburn. Of those who had also viewed both films, the recent one was judged “more real”.


11 posted on 02/11/2012 7:48:36 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: HonkyTonkMan; Impy; Perdogg; fieldmarshaldj

Never go against The Duke!

It’s too bad he didn’t live long enough to see RR elected.


12 posted on 02/11/2012 7:51:27 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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For me, the dialog between Kim Darby and Strother Martin just rockets the original True Grit into first place.

Mark


13 posted on 02/11/2012 7:55:43 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I vote for “Rio Bravo”.. oh wait...


14 posted on 02/11/2012 7:57:47 PM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: WilliamIII

The new one had a little more realism here and there, but the actors were mostly annoying. I did think Bridges did a great job in the courtroom scene. But John Wayne is an American institution, and I’ll never vote against him.


15 posted on 02/11/2012 7:58:11 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: WilliamIII

these pictures were no way alike.

John Wayne wore his patch over his left eye. Jeff Bridges over the right.

Way different.


16 posted on 02/11/2012 7:59:53 PM PST by stylin19a (time to Obamanos)
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To: Mmogamer

I love that one!

Another one I’ve grown to really, really like is Brannigan...older Wayne was cool!


17 posted on 02/11/2012 8:01:36 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Farewell sweet Rick, we barely knew ye...)
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To: Shadowstrike
The Best is the Book. If you haven't read it yet, I would strongly encourage you to do so. Some respected authors say it is one of the best-written novels ever written. I can't disagree with that.
18 posted on 02/11/2012 8:01:48 PM PST by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: WilliamIII
The new one didn't win a single Oscar, or am I wrong?

"the 2010 remake, directed by the Coen brothers, competes for 10 Oscars on Feb. 27, including Best Picture and Best Director." (From the article)

19 posted on 02/11/2012 8:02:09 PM PST by Texan
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To: RC one
It’s probably my favorite movie to watch while drinking too a little much hard liquor.

Are you watching the movie now? :)

20 posted on 02/11/2012 8:04:14 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: ntnychik

I would say of course “True Grit” was about the girl. And Kim Darby’s verbal wrangling with both Martin and Cambell was great. But Duke and the rat scene was the best. Recent version good, first one better.


21 posted on 02/11/2012 8:06:15 PM PST by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: WilliamIII

One of my favorites is John Ford’s The Searchers. Wayne was great in the movie along with Red River and Rio Grande... but the True Grit best of the two goes to the Coen Brothers, sorry Duke.


22 posted on 02/11/2012 8:06:20 PM PST by topfile
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To: stylin19a

Bridges movie held the book close to the vest as evidenced in the girl’s later life....John Wayne was born to play Rooster Cogburn


23 posted on 02/11/2012 8:09:18 PM PST by advertising guy (Obama is a world class liar, but Eric Holder does it backwards and in high heels)
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To: WilliamIII

Much as I like the Coen Bros, there isn’t any doubt. Anyone who says otherwise, well, that’s just mighty bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!


24 posted on 02/11/2012 8:11:24 PM PST by bigbob
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To: WilliamIII
John Wayne and Robert Duvall == no contest

Best line

Mattie Ross: Do you need a good lawyer?

Lucky Ned Pepper: I need a good judge.

25 posted on 02/11/2012 8:14:53 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: WilliamIII
The John Wayne one wins for both acting and ending
26 posted on 02/11/2012 8:15:04 PM PST by The Wizard
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To: Ken H

no, just too busy to proofread.


27 posted on 02/11/2012 8:16:08 PM PST by RC one (the majority of republicans agree, anyone but Romney.)
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To: Lizavetta

I agree; including Glenn Campbell’s character. His speech sounded like he thought he might be in a Shakespeare play. But because of The Duke, the original was better.

He and Kate Hepburn were great in Rooster Cogburn, too. In fact, I’d put Grit and Rooster side-by-side.


28 posted on 02/11/2012 8:20:14 PM PST by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

“I like true grits, but only have time for instant in the morning...”

“No true southerner would eat instant grits.”

“It takes the entire grit-eating world twenty minutes to cook their grits...”


29 posted on 02/11/2012 8:21:56 PM PST by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I agree. The dialogue was much closer to the way people talked then. The girl who played Mattie is much better.


30 posted on 02/11/2012 8:23:18 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: biggerten
. But Duke and the rat scene was the best.

Do you mean the writ, wrote for a rat, that he served, forthwith? To quit eating Chin-Lee's corn?

Drunk as a skunk in elderberries, he was.

Can't say I see a problem with that.

/johnny

31 posted on 02/11/2012 8:23:24 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: biggerten

Kim was too old for the part, by about five years.


32 posted on 02/11/2012 8:25:46 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: WilliamIII
I've lived in Youngstown, NY and Youngstown, OH as well as Newton Falls, NY (Zip Code 13666) and Newton Falls, OH (Zip Code 44444).

As far as I know, I am the only human on earth who has accomplished that. I deserved to be on Letterman but he never called.

Pity.

33 posted on 02/11/2012 8:35:55 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: jessduntno
Hahahahaha.

These two youts...

34 posted on 02/11/2012 8:36:22 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Yo Mitt - Money can't buy you love...)
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To: WilliamIII

I prefer the new one. It was a far superior movie.


35 posted on 02/11/2012 8:43:42 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Texan

Umm, yeah, that was February 2011. The results are in. :-)


36 posted on 02/11/2012 8:43:57 PM PST by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: Central Planning Czar)
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To: WilliamIII
"the 2010 remake, directed by the Coen brothers, competes for 10 Oscars on Feb. 27"

How is a 2010 movie eligible for the current Oscars? Can they keep going until they win?

37 posted on 02/11/2012 8:48:07 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Glenn

I have a friend who was born in Elizabethtown, Illinois. After he got out of the Army, he lived in Elizabethtown, Kentucky for a few years before moving to Louisville, Kentucky. This past fall he retired out west and settled in the town of Louisville, Colorado.


38 posted on 02/11/2012 8:48:10 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Now, look here, rat. This here’s a rat writ, writ for a rat, ordering you to cease eating Chin-Lee’s corn, and this is lawful service of same.” *BLAM*


39 posted on 02/11/2012 8:51:36 PM PST by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: Lizavetta

From what I understand, the “formal” language seen in the Coen movie was put in because it is closer to the novel...in reality, it is truer to how people would have spoken at the time...a look at the letters from that time period shows that even the least educated (by today’s standards; they didn’t go beyond 8th grade usually) spoke and wrote MUCH better than most students today.


40 posted on 02/11/2012 8:51:54 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: jessduntno
“No true southerner would eat instant grits.”

“It takes the entire grit-eating world twenty minutes to cook their grits...”


41 posted on 02/11/2012 8:56:34 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I also like the John Wayne version.

(and loved My Cousin Vinny)


42 posted on 02/11/2012 9:00:04 PM PST by perplyone
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To: biggerten

“This is a Rat Writ ‘rit for a rat and lawful service of same...’’


43 posted on 02/11/2012 9:00:32 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: USS Alaska

LOL! That’s what came to my mind as well when they said they only had time for instant grits. And the photo you posted with the tape measure I had thought of just a couple of days ago. A rare sunny day here in Seattle and the sun was glaring in the kitchen window that was so faucet splattered and rain splattered that I couldn’t see out! (Its okay now though - its raining again!).


44 posted on 02/11/2012 9:02:33 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: RobbyS

Exactly my thoughts. I mean, I’m old but not that old lol, but I felt, “so this is what it was like to live then.”.


45 posted on 02/11/2012 9:02:48 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: biggerten
That would be the quote. I paraphrased.

But I've suffered through the next morning scene more than should be allowed for a natural man.

So you wake up in a saggy bed with a cat on your chest, with a small child waving money in your face to go chase a man into Oklahoma territory....

I'd roll over and go back to sleep and re-arrange the cat. Or teach it flying lessons.

/johnny

46 posted on 02/11/2012 9:03:08 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

I have a friend who was born in Elizabethtown, Illinois. After he got out of the Army, he lived in Elizabethtown, Kentucky for a few years before moving to Louisville, Kentucky. This past fall he retired out west and settled in the town of Louisville, Colorado.”

Name isn’t Jimmy James, is it?


47 posted on 02/11/2012 9:03:47 PM PST by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: Rudder

The Arkansas side of my family refers to Charles Portis as a cousin. I remember meeting him once when I was much younger. Keep in mind that in Arkasas the definition of cousin is quite flexible. It can include those who are cousin by blood as well as those who are cousin by strength of your regard for them. He has a very distinctive voice in his writings. You should read Norwood.


48 posted on 02/11/2012 9:08:35 PM PST by Roses0508
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To: t2buckeye
a look at the letters from that time period shows that even the least educated (by today’s standards; they didn’t go beyond 8th grade usually) spoke and wrote MUCH better than most students today.

It is my understanding that, in those days, letter writing, being somewhat uncommon due to the illiteracy rate, was considered a rather formal affair, so when people wrote letters, they did so with the same level of formality that one might write a business letter today. When they spoke, however, it was a different matter, sort of like the difference between what you'd say to your friends on the weekend and what you'd write in your end-of-quarter report at work. This is the mistake that many movies made from the era make, in that they assume that the formality of the letter-writing and the mode of everyday speech were the same. They were not.
49 posted on 02/11/2012 9:09:26 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: WilliamIII

I can’t think of a film in which I prefer the remake to the original. Although I’ve never seen the 1910 version of “The Wonderful Wizard of Oz,” I prefer the 1925 version of the story, titled “The Wizard of Oz,” over the 1939 remake. The same goes for the 1954 TV film “Casino Royale,” remade in 1967, “Little Caesar” (1931), remade in 1991, “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” (1956), remade in 1978, and “Ben Hur” (1925), remade in 1959.

One of the worst movies I ever saw was the 1995 version of “The Scarlet Letter” because it made hash of the original story. On the other hand, the 1925 version remains a classic.


50 posted on 02/11/2012 9:12:04 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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