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Foreclosure pact promises more trouble
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | Feb12, 2012 | David Roeder

Posted on 02/12/2012 6:15:03 AM PST by KeyLargo

Foreclosure pact promises more trouble

DAVID ROEDER

droeder@suntimes.com Last Modified: Feb 12, 2012 02:25AM

The foreclosure settlement involving Illinois and 48 other states is much ado about $25 billion, but for homeowners still in a heap of financial trouble, it signifies little besides more pain.

The banks involved will like it, and their investors should draw comfort as well. By settling, the five large banks have indemnified themselves against civil lawsuits over robo-signing and faked paperwork. Criminal charges are possible, but hardly likely. The banks get financial certainty as opposed to the prospect of endless litigation. That should help the shares of four banks involved — JPMorgan Chase (JPM), Bank of America (BAC), Citigroup (C) and Wells Fargo (WFC). The fifth one in the deal, Ally Financial, is not publicly traded. The deal does not cover loans backed by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, a major limitation.

Some homeowners will get reductions in mortgage principals. A few who lost homes will get direct payments, perhaps $2,000 each, which might not even pay the moving expenses. But the larger impact will be on the housing market itself.

Expect banks to turn up the flow of foreclosures. They’ve held them back because of the robo-signing scandal, causing national foreclosures to fall about 46 percent from October 2010 to last December, according to RealtyTrac.

A sharp increase in foreclosures will snuff out any recovery in most U.S. cities. Before the foreclosure settlement was announced, the realty data provider Zillow estimated housing prices in the Chicago area will fall an average 7.6 percent this year, on top of a 36 percent decline since the 2006 peak.

In 2011, Chicago area prices fell 10.9 percent, the second largest decline of 25 major cities in the U.S., by Zillow’s reckoning.

Stan Humphries, chief economist at Zillow, said its forecast took into account the likelihood for a foreclosure settlement. He said that while the pace of liquidations will rise, he doesn’t expect lenders to flood the market.

Some will say the attorneys general who settled this case sold out too cheaply. More to the point, the settlement took too long. It does more for narrow political interests than for aggrieved homeowners. And the dispute put off housing’s great reckoning. The market needs a purgative. Without more foreclosures or targeted mortgage relief, prices cannot stabilize.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banks; foreclsure; housing; obama

"It does more for narrow political interests than for aggrieved homeowners."

1 posted on 02/12/2012 6:15:07 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Criminal charges are possible, but hardly likely.

Of course, laws are for little people not for our overlords.


2 posted on 02/12/2012 6:26:46 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: KeyLargo

You bet it causes more trouble, mainly in the Department of Unintended Consequences, for it means that contracts are no longer sacred.

When a contract no no longer sacred, then its enforcement becomes arbitrary. People will hesitate to put their money at risk because of the ways the counter-party can get out of fulfilling their obligations. Borrowers will start to look at lenders as candidates to defraud. Indeed a co-worker just voiced their thoughts to me on Friday when he indicated his preference to refi his house with Bank of America, because of how likely they were to lose his paperwork or otherwise fail to be able to collect where no court would enforce the mortgage.

The investor Dick Bove is quoted on ZeroHedge as saying: “There is no sanctity of contracts in the United States. Only fools meet their financial commitments. The non-payers are the truly enlightened.”

and: “...-the US taxpayers bailed out the banks, which are now using the balance of said proceeds to pay a settlement which amounts to the tune of $2,000 per every person foreclosed on in the past 3 years, in order to assure their vote for Obama, while in the process trampling contract law, as no longer will anyone in America honor anything printed and signed. “

This cannot end well.

see:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/dick-bove-foreclosure-settlement-there-no-sanctity-contracts-only-fools-meet-their-financial-co


3 posted on 02/12/2012 6:37:33 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: freedomfiter2

So, what is the one state not having a foreclosure problem? I would venture that would be either Alaska or Hawaii, and of the two, I would think it is Alaska.


4 posted on 02/12/2012 6:41:42 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: KeyLargo; MV=PY
By settling, the five large banks have indemnified themselves against civil lawsuits over robo-signing and faked paperwork.

Neat, eh? TBTF (Too Big To Fail) Crony "It does more for narrow political interests than for aggrieved homeowners." Fascism. BIG GOVERNMENT/BIG FINANCE/BIG SOCIALISM. The leviathan rolls on. Neat, eh?

As FReeper MV=PY's tagline reads, (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)

5 posted on 02/12/2012 6:41:42 AM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt

It’s a great deal if you have stocks in those big banks.

“The banks involved will like it, and their investors should draw comfort as well.”

Ally/GMAC
Bank of America
Citi
JPMorgan Chase
Wells Fargo

Mortgage Settlement Is Just Another Stealth Bank Bailout

By Washingtons Blog - February 10th, 2012, 10:30AM
Yet Another Bailout for the Giant Banks … Homeowners Get Hosed Again

The 50-state settlement with the banks (Oklahoma didn’t sign, but supports letting the banks go scot-free) over mortgage fraud is a stealth bank bailout, according to many top observers. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this.

This is par for the course … All of Obama’s previous “mortgage relief” programs have really been stealth bank bailouts which screwed the homeowner. And see this.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/02/mortgage-settlement-is-just-another-stealth-bank-bailout/


6 posted on 02/12/2012 6:47:27 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: theBuckwheat
The reality is that the inevitable will begin with a massive uptick in foreclosures. Banks big and small will not succumb to state and fed pressures to lend to the very people the liberals purported to help. Home values will temporally go down further damaging those that can't afford their homes.

The 25 billion will mainly end up in state mandated programs that in the end help no one.

7 posted on 02/12/2012 6:51:47 AM PST by JIM O
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To: KeyLargo
How can the government indemnify a bank against a civil lawsuit for fraudulently signing someones name? Since when does the government have the power to waive an individual’s rights for a crime committed against said individual?
8 posted on 02/12/2012 6:55:14 AM PST by liberalh8ter (Obama - The United Nation's first U.S. Presidential Candidate)
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To: liberalh8ter
"Since when does the government have the power to waive an individual’s rights for a crime committed against said individual? "

Can you spell 'Obama'...

9 posted on 02/12/2012 7:04:25 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: theBuckwheat

Borrowers will start to look at lenders as candidates to defraud.

In this case the lenders as well as many borrowers are guilty of fraud. They should all be punished in criminal court.


10 posted on 02/12/2012 7:11:22 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: liberalh8ter

I believe they are only indemnified against lawsuits by the Federal government and the states. Individuals can still sue.

Of course, with tens of thousands of lawyers on each bank’s staff, they’re not exactly shaking in their boots.


11 posted on 02/12/2012 7:26:56 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user
I hear you. To the guy whose signature was robo signed, “take your $1500 in taxpayer bailout - rerouted through the bank to the U.S. Gov’t and into this ‘victim compensation fund’ - and shut up.”
12 posted on 02/12/2012 7:36:47 AM PST by liberalh8ter (Obama - The United Nation's first U.S. Presidential Candidate)
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To: freedomfiter2

Most of the robo-signing was done by law firms hired by the banks to do the foreclosures. It says right in the contracts that these law firms are required to obey all laws, rules, regulations.

Some of the law firms might be hit by criminal charges, but the banks have protected themselves. See, it’s right in the contract!


13 posted on 02/12/2012 7:45:08 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: PGalt

Thanks for the ping, PGalt - I had missed this.

The housing market still has quite a ways to unwind and this should move the process along. The banks, of course, remain a protected species.


14 posted on 02/12/2012 8:37:30 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: KeyLargo

Banks are sitting on tens of thousands of homes ready to be foreclosed, already.


15 posted on 02/12/2012 9:57:54 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist)
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To: KeyLargo

Thanks very much for the link (post #6). Lots of interesting comments/analysis at those sources.


16 posted on 02/12/2012 7:34:44 PM PST by PGalt
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