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WA Senate passes $100 annual electric car fee
seattlepi.com ^ | 02/12/2012 | n/a

Posted on 02/12/2012 8:28:35 PM PST by massmike

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1 posted on 02/12/2012 8:28:42 PM PST by massmike
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To: massmike

How often will this be increased?


2 posted on 02/12/2012 8:30:10 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL
Classic ...
3 posted on 02/12/2012 8:31:00 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: massmike

Isn’t electricity already taxed?


4 posted on 02/12/2012 8:32:10 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: massmike

Sorry, but I just gotta laugh my ass off on this one.


5 posted on 02/12/2012 8:32:17 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (Feels good to use the word "Sarah" in my tag line again.)
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To: massmike

Next, a “fee” on non-smokers.


6 posted on 02/12/2012 8:32:41 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: massmike; Just Lori; Libertina; Lexinom; horatio; freebird5850; Horatio Gates; Ramius; ...
WA Ping

The Washington state Senate has passed a bill to charge electric coal powered car owners a $100 annual fee to compensate for the lack of gas taxes they pay

7 posted on 02/12/2012 8:32:46 PM PST by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: massmike

If every driver in the US had to pay $100 a year just because, then that could raise more than $21 billion annually.

Oh wait, how much do drivers licenses cost these days?

Lets not keep giving them ideas.


8 posted on 02/12/2012 8:32:54 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: massmike

ha


9 posted on 02/12/2012 8:32:54 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: massmike

OT...
What is to be made of this?!?

Washington suspends 2012 presidential primary; regular state primary still on Read more at http://sos.wa.gov/office/osos_news.aspx?i=zwm8zI6TS07Z8OKbW30dOw%3D%3D

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10 posted on 02/12/2012 8:32:54 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: massmike

...from the same people that just brought gay “marriage” to Washington State........


11 posted on 02/12/2012 8:33:50 PM PST by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: massmike

HA! - That’s funny as all get-out!


12 posted on 02/12/2012 8:35:03 PM PST by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: massmike

So you not only have to pay for the electricity to charge the thing, you have to pay $100 more? LOL


13 posted on 02/12/2012 8:40:24 PM PST by mardi59 ( Newt brings hope, and CHANGE is coming. 2012)
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To: Baynative
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14 posted on 02/12/2012 8:42:27 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Regret Anything Because At One Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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To: massmike

Are they taxing bicycles yet????


15 posted on 02/12/2012 8:43:31 PM PST by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: massmike

More evidence this is all a scam.


16 posted on 02/12/2012 8:47:57 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: massmike

But there are Federal and local taxes on their utility bill and I’m sure that went up. In fact, I’d like to know how much their bill went up.


17 posted on 02/12/2012 8:48:44 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: massmike

In the Keystone State most road maintenance is funded through liquid fuels taxes. Makes perfect sense to me.


18 posted on 02/12/2012 8:49:55 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: massmike
Rats tax. That's all.

They don't eat if they aren't stealing it from someone's pocket. What they know isn't worth anything on the open market so...they gotta get into government and tax.

What's truly hilarious is that they don't understand the hypocrisy. Here in California they fine us if we use too much water...but then when people start conserving, they raise the rates.

Why? Because they aren't selling as much, so ya unnerstan, we gotta raise your rates.

Rats tax. That's all.

19 posted on 02/12/2012 8:52:49 PM PST by Regulator
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To: NurdlyPeon

Me too, bwahahahahahahahahahaha.


20 posted on 02/12/2012 8:53:41 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Waiting for the new tagline to download)
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To: Revolting cat!
Next, a “fee” on non-smokers

When they came after the smokers....

21 posted on 02/12/2012 8:54:41 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: massmike

Are they gonna turn around and pass a $100 fee on the drivers of gasoline-powered cars for the lack of extra electricity taxes that they DON’T pay because they DON’T have electric cars and DON’T charge them up?


22 posted on 02/12/2012 8:54:41 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Lmo56

They will now.


23 posted on 02/12/2012 8:56:39 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Isn’t electricity already taxed?

Of course - but not for road use, like motor fuels are. I'd rather see a case-by-case taxing of the fools that buy these plug-in electrics, rather than a blanket increase in everybody's utility taxes.

24 posted on 02/12/2012 8:59:19 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Isn’t electricity already taxed?

Yes, but the money doesn't go to any sort of highway fund like gas taxes are supposed to.

25 posted on 02/12/2012 8:59:38 PM PST by Bob
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To: Baynative

Power is somewhat fungible, but in that state hydropower probably powers them more than coal.


26 posted on 02/12/2012 9:01:31 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Lmo56
Are they gonna turn around and pass a $100 fee on the drivers of gasoline-powered cars for the lack of extra electricity taxes that they DON’T pay because they DON’T have electric cars and DON’T charge them up?

For God's sake stop! You're going to give them more ideas!

27 posted on 02/12/2012 9:01:36 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Baynative

I think most of the power in Washington State is hydro based.

So these are salmon killing water powered cars.


28 posted on 02/12/2012 9:02:32 PM PST by Chewbacca (woof woof. That's my other wookie impression.)
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To: SkyDancer

ROTFL


29 posted on 02/12/2012 9:02:52 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: massmike
$100 annual fee to compensate for the lack of ... taxes...

If the average entitled dem, getting food stamps, unemployment, and a big check due to "negative taxes"...

How about a $10,000 fee to this entitled dem to compensate for the lack of payroll taxes that they would have paid if they had been earning, say, $80,000.

30 posted on 02/12/2012 9:05:35 PM PST by C210N (Dems: "We must tax you so that we can buy your votes")
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To: goodnesswins
Are they taxing bicycles yet????

You mean like these?

Bicycle sharing system

-PJ

31 posted on 02/12/2012 9:07:12 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: massmike

And what about Oregon, isn’t self-serve gas still banned there? What about gas-pumper unemployment caused by greeeeen cars?


32 posted on 02/12/2012 9:14:37 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Regulator

“Here in California they fine us if we use too much water...but then when people start conserving, they raise the rates.”

And now when they are in the bag for electric cars, they are trying to get federal funds ( because California is basically broke) to remove all hydroelectric dams on the Klamath River because they are “tough” on the fish. So, less electricity in a state that doesn’t have enough, more floods because that’s what the dams control, and less water for us po folks. It all makes perfect sense doesn’t it. Sorry, gotta go now and wash my loincloth in the creek!


33 posted on 02/12/2012 9:14:55 PM PST by vette6387
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To: massmike

Wow-socialism in action!


34 posted on 02/12/2012 9:19:07 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: lightman
Gee, why stop at 100$, who came up what figure?

I am sure the average driver pays much more than that in taxes.

This is just the nose of the camel under the tent.

In 5 years, it will be 1,000 a year.

And the electric car industry will be dead in WA.

35 posted on 02/12/2012 9:22:44 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: massmike

Never thought about this but,

100 bucks is nothing. People pay way more than that for gas. They should charge these electric car people by the mile. The Same amount as the effective tax on Gasoline per mile. Why should they get a free ride.


36 posted on 02/12/2012 9:23:19 PM PST by Revel
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To: Bob
This may be a shock for you-none of those taxes go where they say they are going.

The Gov't just collects them and uses them as they see fit.

Roads are low on the list, as you can see how well they are maintained.

37 posted on 02/12/2012 9:25:30 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: vette6387

There can’t be much electricity generated in the Klamath,
and there is something to be said for helping out the salmon.

A nuke plant sitting in Arcata could supply a lot of power.


38 posted on 02/12/2012 9:30:22 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: massmike

Do plug in Hybrids pay $50?

Do people who own cars that only get 10 MPG get a Gas Tax Rebate?


39 posted on 02/12/2012 9:36:52 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: fortheDeclaration
This may be a shock for you-none of those taxes go where they say they are going.

That's specifically why I ended my post with the words "are supposed to".

40 posted on 02/12/2012 9:51:52 PM PST by Bob
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To: massmike

Yeah, that’s it. Gov’t needs to tax all innovation and those who would improve technology. Wait! Isn’t Microsoft in WA state?


41 posted on 02/12/2012 9:52:28 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: massmike

only $100.00?!! What a deal!
That’s less than ten bucks a month.

Considering there are 57 States, did zero eliminate two months out of the year and didn’t tell us?


42 posted on 02/12/2012 9:57:30 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: massmike

Hey. It’s only a hundred bucks. (for now)


43 posted on 02/12/2012 10:04:05 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: massmike
this is a special session since these bozos...democrat rule as usual...couldn't get anything done during the regular session....its costing taxpayers hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of dollars...

anyway, seeing as we're over a billion in the red, so far this "special" session, they've passed a gay marriage bill, and introduced a marijuana bill,but now we're getting into the real meat of what they want to do....raise taxes so their precious teachers and other govt workers can keep raking it in....

not that I could care about the electric car owners....the do run the roads like the rest of us...but don't they already pay sales tax?...

bumbling idiots....when will the voters smarten up?

44 posted on 02/12/2012 10:04:17 PM PST by cherry
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To: goodnesswins

I’m confident that they are thinking about taxing shoes for those that walk to work.


45 posted on 02/12/2012 11:19:02 PM PST by Buddy Sorrell (It's Algebra, Uncle Fletcher.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

“The bill does not apply to hybrid vehicles or to those that don’t exceed 35 mph.”


46 posted on 02/13/2012 12:05:30 AM PST by funfan (and his crew)
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What about PLUG IN Hybrids?

If someone drives a Volt and only goes 35 miles a day, they may never use the Gasoline Motor. The new Prius Plug In Hybrid is coming out soon.

Looks like Plug In discrimination to me.

47 posted on 02/13/2012 12:14:36 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Strike that - Looks like Socialist Plug In Reverse Discrimination to me.

Make them ALL PAY, it’s the Marxist way!


48 posted on 02/13/2012 12:30:54 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Make them ALL PAY, it’s the Marxist way!

Yep, The TAXMAN Cometh!

49 posted on 02/13/2012 12:52:20 AM PST by sr4402
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To: NurdlyPeon

I also laughed when I read this proposal, albeit for different reason.
For years these envir wackos have been getting a pass that the rest of society has had to pay the price in higher taxes.
They are now feeling the bite.


50 posted on 02/13/2012 1:18:23 AM PST by Nailbiter
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