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Santorum moves ahead in Michigan (Santorum 39, Romney 24, Paul 12, Gingrich 11)
Public Policy Polling ^ | 2/13/12 | staff

Posted on 02/13/2012 8:12:57 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009

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To: rwfromkansas

Oh I don’t buy the Newt winning debates argument either, it’s just the only argument that’s even vaguely credible that is being used by Newt’s supporters.

General election debates are very different from Primary debates. The format will be setup to suit Obama, the questions will of course suit Obama, and most people watching them aren’t going to be judging them like they are college debate tournaments, they will judge them by who they like more.

Obama looking at the camera and talking about how much he “cares” will trump 10,000 debating points that Gingrich “wins.”


61 posted on 02/13/2012 8:59:22 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: dt57
Makes me wonder if they should vote at all.

Hey Brand Newbie. Conservative women are smart people, who think things through a heck of a lot more than leftist men (like you?) do.

I'd watch those misogyist comments on a conservative forum, if I were you. It's the left who are racists and sexists, not us.

62 posted on 02/13/2012 9:00:30 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Logical me
Santorum will lose if nominated to King Obama. Mitt will lose also. The only hope we have is Newt Gingrich.

Newt could not get 39% of the female vote. You are dreaming. It would be 1964 redux.

63 posted on 02/13/2012 9:00:50 AM PST by montag813
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To: ohioWfan
Are you old enough to remember when Reagan could never beat Carter?

Your post has excellent points all around. The arguments that Santorum is too much this and not enough that to beat Obummer is silly. He has the best favorables of all the candidates and he has a solid message. He can beat Obummer.

64 posted on 02/13/2012 9:01:22 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: ohioWfan
Conservative women are smart people,

You're missing his point, which wasn't serious anyway.

The problem is conservative women are heavily outnumbered by women who aren't, much more so than is the case with men.

65 posted on 02/13/2012 9:01:59 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Venturer
[I can vote for Santorum if I have to, but I don’t think he can cut the Mustard as President.]

If this party has gone that stupid to nominate Santorum, they will learn the hard way, that not only is the “Sanctimonious Reverend” Rick as incompetent as he has always been, he will have all of America very angry with him.

They will be angry, to the point where they will gladly vote for Obama again, because Santo is too religiously driven but too fiscally ignorant to understand exactly that America wants from him. He will likely interpret the support he is getting as some divine appointment from which his narrow religious agenda will be implemented.

Santorum is so far out of touch, that even his supporters are buying this illusion with their last dime.

66 posted on 02/13/2012 9:02:22 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: ohioWfan
This comment is truly insane. Unbelieveable that anyone other than a hardcore leftist would ever say such a stupid thing.

The left us already upset about an obviously satirical story about Santorum declaring war on rock n roll.

Did Rick Santorum Declare War on Heavy Metal? Nope.
67 posted on 02/13/2012 9:03:03 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Strategerist
How do you know what his point was? He signed on a few days ago, and I'm guessing is a leftist trolling with a stereotype.

Could be wrong, but I don't think so.

68 posted on 02/13/2012 9:03:23 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: cripplecreek
I voted for Hunter

So did I. What a fantastic president he would have made. One of the greatest. Instead we got the douchebag McCain and the Boy King.

69 posted on 02/13/2012 9:04:07 AM PST by montag813
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To: Lazlo in PA

A steady drumbeat of scare ads about social conservatism will eliminate his moderate and independent support, and destroy Santorum in a general election.


70 posted on 02/13/2012 9:04:25 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: TexasFreeper2009
This is a big shock and for sure Romney will need to start carpet bombing Rick. When it starts, I expect Rick will fall fast and hard. In the unlikely event Rick does become the nominee, he won't win the general election.
71 posted on 02/13/2012 9:04:32 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( (#withNewt))
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To: montag813

You really think Romney will let Santorum defeat him?
Unless the 2 really have a pact to remove Gingrich, Romney will fire at Santorum mercilessly.

Granted the media and the GOP E might want Santorum to keep Gingrich in check, but if they help to creat a Santorum monster to threaten their chosen Romney, how will they get Romney nominated?


72 posted on 02/13/2012 9:04:53 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: Strategerist
btw, the comment about 'looks' was completely dopey regarding support for Santorum over Gingrich.

Mitt's the only 'cute' guy running, and you don't see a lot of support for him among serious conservative women, do you?

73 posted on 02/13/2012 9:05:32 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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74 posted on 02/13/2012 9:05:45 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: ohioWfan

LIke Santorum, you also have no sense of humor or sarcasm.

But go ahead, full, blind speed ahead to utter failure! You are about to get what you deserve.


75 posted on 02/13/2012 9:05:54 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: napscoordinator
I also want Santorum to win.

Romney is a clumsy, GOP establishment giant, Gingrich is just a 4th place pest and Ron Paul is still too crazy to be President.

Go Santorum, Go!!!!!

76 posted on 02/13/2012 9:07:38 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
Why push Gingrich before Santorum?

Gingrich has a metric TON of baggage, plus he dodged the draft during Vietnam.

And that's just the beginning, say nothing of his kissy face propaganda with Nancy Pelosi on Global Warming.

77 posted on 02/13/2012 9:10:16 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: chrisnj
Dems and Independents will vote for Santorum? What does that tell you?

That tells me that Santorums pro freedom message is exciting disaffected Rats much like Reagan did in '80. Remember the Reagan Democrats? Did that make Reagan a RINO for appealing to them?

78 posted on 02/13/2012 9:10:50 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: cripplecreek
Good grief! Leftists are truly nuts!

But then again, I've read posts on this forum that Santorum would set up a "theocracy"......and from people who actually imagine themselves to be conservatives.

For some freepers, moral values are scary things.......especially since there's been an onslaught of Paul supporters on this forum.

As far as I'm concerned, it's the amoral libertarians who are scary.....and they absolutely hate Rick Santorum.

79 posted on 02/13/2012 9:11:31 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
A different poll also has Santorum up:

Gingrich 21%
Paul 12%
Romney 27%
Santorum 33%
Other 1%
Undecided 6%

80 posted on 02/13/2012 9:11:40 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Rick Santorum in the primary)
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