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The End of the Constitution
Fox News ^ | 2/10/2012 | Jeffrey T. Kuhner

Posted on 02/13/2012 11:24:56 AM PST by Carbonsteel

Is America sliding toward autocratic rule? This is the essential question of Barack Obama's presidency. Mr. Obama vowed to "fundamentally transform" the United States. Despite his incompetence and economic failure, the president is making good on his central promise: the destruction of our constitutional republic. He is trying - piece by painful piece - to reverse the legacy of the Founding Fathers. Conservatives have underestimated him at their peril. For Mr. Obama is not simply an inept, liberal president in the mold of Jimmy Carter. He is an ideological revolutionary who seeks to sweep away traditional America.

(Excerpt) Read more at nation.foxnews.com ...


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One of the best articles I've read in regards to what this nation has faced over last 4 years with this administration.

The truely scary part is that his approval is still around 50%.

In the end, I still think the greatest threat to our nation and our inividual liberties is the media.

If the media would do its job and tell the truth about what Obama was doing instead of sugar coating everything that goes on, then the American people would have a better handle on the situation. If the media had properly investigated Obama he would have never been elected in the first place.

The media appointed Obama after appointing our last Repulican candidate and now they are about to appoint our next candidate for us as well, to ensure that regardless of who we vote for, they get the candidate THEY want.

The single greatest threat to out great nation is the American media.....by far.

1 posted on 02/13/2012 11:24:57 AM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: Carbonsteel

Marxist Obama will be crushed like a bug in 2012. The tea party sweep of 2010 was just a warm-up call for the tea party landslide coming up in November!!

We are the resistance!!

Rebellion is on!!

I can see November from my house!!


2 posted on 02/13/2012 11:28:53 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: Carbonsteel
obamabudget
3 posted on 02/13/2012 11:32:39 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: Jim Robinson
sweep of 2010 was just a warm-up call

Even when I read about, and some of it right here on FR, "if so-and-so is the nominee I'm sitting it out"?

4 posted on 02/13/2012 11:33:47 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Carbonsteel
"The truely scary part is that his approval is still around 50%"

I just do not believe it is that high.
I am not sure how they conduct the polls. If I got a call from a pollster I would probably lie and say I loved ZERO just to throw the poll off.
I doubt I will ever receive one or I may have already been called. If the number doesn't show on my caller ID I either don't answer or pick up the phone and put it down so I can waste the telemarketers time.

5 posted on 02/13/2012 11:35:19 AM PST by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968)
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To: Jim Robinson
I pray that you are right! That a man can sit in the pews of a Church where the Pastor "Damns" America for twenty years, and still get elected President in contemporary America, certainly calls for something dramatic.

The damage that the media has done to our perceptions of what is right--what idealistic, what acceptable;--certainly calls for an effective resistance!

Again, my prayer is that your view of November is realized.

William Flax

6 posted on 02/13/2012 11:37:22 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Carbonsteel

7 posted on 02/13/2012 11:38:08 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Carbonsteel

The constitution is no barrier on these people.
They’ll do what they want to do unless and until

SOMEONE ACTUALLY STOPS THEM.

And I’m with you about the media.
If a peaceful solution to this leftist tyranny is prevented by the media, then a not-so-peaceful solution will be inevitable, and they will be among those decorating lampposts along the way.


8 posted on 02/13/2012 11:38:50 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: grobdriver
"Even when I read about, and some of it right here on FR, "if so-and-so is the nominee I'm sitting it out"?"

If that's the case, then those that sit it out might as well just vote for Obama. It's the same thing.

9 posted on 02/13/2012 11:40:12 AM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim I agree 100%.


10 posted on 02/13/2012 11:42:10 AM PST by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968)
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To: grobdriver

Well, if progressive Romney is the one he’s not much different from Obama, so we’ll be concentrating our fire on sweeping the senate. I for one will never vote for the man who pushed a marxist healthcare system on his constituents and who still brags about it today and is planning a national healthcare task force to push RomneyCare-like healthcare systems in all 50 states and call them states rights issues. No thank you!!

Nor will I ever vote for the man who said abortion should be safe and legal in America and that Roe v Wade is settled law and should be preserved and sustained!!

FUMR!!


11 posted on 02/13/2012 11:42:10 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: Carbonsteel; All
With regard to this lates threat, focus on the fact that this is not about the Trojan Horses of "women's health" or "contraception."

It's not even limited to the principle of religious liberty or freedom of speech.

It is about an unconstitutional assumption of power over rights which "the People" withheld from the purview of the government they structured through their Constitution. If this arrogation of power to the Executive is allowed to stand in this case, then all of "the People's" rights are at risk.

Inasmuch as their Constitution allowed no power to infringe on any specified right in the First Amendment, then the person who assumes such a power also does not possess a power to "compromise," or "accomodate."

May I suggest that readers of this thread read Leonard Read's "Anything That's Peaceful," which can be read online, and share this wonderful and easy-to-read book with as many people as you can. The book itself can be ordered from FEE.

Not only does Read provide insight into the ideas of liberty versus those of tyranny (as in socialism), but his Chapter 5, entitled, "How Socialism Harms the Individual" is especially enlightening for any who may not see what is happening in America in its proper context, as pertains to the individuals involved.

In Chapter 5, under the heading "The Authoritarian," he begins by stating, "Of the threee classifications of persons involved in social leveling by compulsion, the authoritarian--the one who administers the taking and the giving--has been too little diagnosed." When you read it, you will see the nature of the man before us today. This section of Chapter 5 paints a portrait most Americans will recognize.

An extra bonus of this wonderful book is that it contains Read's famous essay, "I, Pencil." Copies should be placed in every school library and in every home school setting.

12 posted on 02/13/2012 11:42:14 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Carbonsteel
NERO DOMITIANVS DECIVS DIOCLETIANVS LICINIVS OBAMA AUG IMP

13 posted on 02/13/2012 11:42:37 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Carbonsteel

Many of us here on FR did know... and we warned as loudly as we could and to anyone that would listen. Look at what mccain said about him being a fine man and that Americans had nothing to fear from an obama presidency. We have called him a unsurping, kenyan, fagot marxist that hates America and whose power is derived from the prince of darkness... but even on FR we have evildoers that make excuses for obama... just like mccain did.

LLS


14 posted on 02/13/2012 11:42:55 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: Carbonsteel

“One of the best articles I’ve read in regards to what this nation has faced over last 4 years with this administration. “

And here’s what I don’t understand. Even if Romney is the nominee, he’s still better than Obama. Yet, many freepers act as though Romney is worse. Romney doesn’t want to dismantle the constitution. Romney doesn’t hate America. Romney’s biggest fault, and it’s a huge fault, is he just wants to BE president. I don’t think Romney has a plan or a passion, he just wants his name on the door.

Ok, so imagine Romney is the nomminee. We could survive Romney, we will NOT survive 4 more years of Obama.


15 posted on 02/13/2012 11:46:59 AM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: Carbonsteel

Good article. Obama is not stupid or incompetent. He is a driven idealog doing what he can as he can to advance Marxism in this country.


16 posted on 02/13/2012 11:47:52 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: Jim Robinson
"I can see November from my house!!"

Hmmm... words DO mean something. You know something we don't? ;-)

17 posted on 02/13/2012 11:48:33 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Voter#537
"The truely scary part is that his approval is still around 50%"

All I can figure, or maybe just want to believe, regarding Obo's "high" polling numbers is that the people that voted for the loser, still don't want to be considered racist (particularly in their own heads)!

That said, no one with a brain in their head would 'pull the lever" for this guy, once in privacy of voting booth, at least not the number he's "polling" positive at...IMO

18 posted on 02/13/2012 11:52:47 AM PST by xhrist ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. " - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Jim Robinson
Nope.
At BEST its going to be a nail biter.
We hit the tipping point - there are more “entitled” than there are producers.
Then you have the big business types who want the Federale’s help “pulling up the ladder” and curtailing any future competition.
Obama has ACORN, Unions, Illegal Aliens, the parasite class, various corporations, and the entire MSM on his side.
We (probably) have Romney. Whoopee.
19 posted on 02/13/2012 11:55:51 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray

Nope. With Newt or Santorum it’s going to be Reagan vs Carter all over again.


20 posted on 02/13/2012 11:59:11 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: xhrist

It really has nothing to do with racism, I think. I fear that 50% of this country truly want the government to give them everything. They don’t want to work for or towards any goals. They want to sleep late, drink on the taxpayer’s dime, eat on the taxpayer’s dime, be sheltered by the taxpayer’s dime, transit on the taxpayer’s dime, communicate on the taxpayer’s dime, get “educated” on the taxpayer’s dime, and generally live on the taxpayer’s dime.

The more the taxpayers sit back and allow it to happen, the most it will continue.

I think we should bring back voting laws requiring that one owns property or has a non-government job in order to vote. Anyone who rents or leases their living quarters or works on the taxpayer’s dime should be excluded from voting. Call it slavery, Jim Crow, whatever, but it would drastically reform who sits in the leather chairs in DC.


21 posted on 02/13/2012 12:02:53 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“The tea party sweep of 2010 was just a warm-up call for the tea party landslide coming up in November!!...I can see November from my house!!”

With increasing regularity , I see a continual movement by the States towards ‘ELECTRONIC VOTING’ machines , which are repaired by union workers. Supposedly , they leave no direct paper trail, only cumulative numbers. These machines have not yet proven that they cannot be ‘electronicly tinkered with’, or re-programmed .

We have already seen the current batch of Congress (both parties and both Houses ) bend over for the current administration. The most current laugh is the proposed administration’s budget, including the $800 million for “Arab Spring” . This administration is acting as though there is no current fiscal budget issue . We need to send pom-poms (cajonies) to Boehner, and others in Congress.

Since there is no paper trail , there can be no verification of the actual vote . Since the electronic ballot box contains ‘proprietary software’ ,there can be no verification as to its veracity.
I fear for the theft of the 2012 National Election by the imposter, assisted by union maintenance.
Remember, it wasn’t until after the election that we learned about Zero , his associates , his minister, his dogma , his ideology, his voting record (”Present”), his ‘birth certificate’, etc., etc... And soon after the election, all the background information on the messiah was ‘locked down’. Admit it , as a Country , we got bamboozeled !!

I too look forward to the next election , but with a lot more skepticism than you.


22 posted on 02/13/2012 12:03:33 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Carbonsteel

The GOP isn’t going to life a finger unless they are scared of us.


23 posted on 02/13/2012 12:08:37 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Carbonsteel

Some years ago George Soros told the world he’d bought the democrat party, how do members of the msm vote? democrat!
But we need to look at our “conservative” electeds. Many of those who sit on the “conservative” side of the house were democrats at one time. When the Republicans gained a majority in either house or senate, a “conservative” democrat changed parties. That democrat didn’t want to lose the power/prestige/money of his/her seat so changed to the party “now” in power. Hence we have a Republican party full of RINOS. These RINOS are able to change the minds of weaker republicans, so the democrats get most of their wishes most of the time. Look what Boehner said to the incoming freshman Republicans when they gathered for their first official meeting.


24 posted on 02/13/2012 12:09:50 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ve got your back on that one. Plus he running a dirty campaign against fellow Republicans.


25 posted on 02/13/2012 12:16:48 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, here is hoping (for the primary) then: ANYBODY but Romney.


26 posted on 02/13/2012 12:17:42 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: tillacum
"These RINOS are able to change the minds of weaker republicans, so the democrats get most of their wishes most of the time. Look what Boehner said to the incoming freshman Republicans when they gathered for their first official meeting."

I agree. Just look at the last two years of the Bush administration. Bush signed most of what hit his desk, giving Democrats most of what they wanted, in effect making the last two years of a Republican administration a Democratic administration. A fact that Liberals love to whitewash when blaming Bush for all our nations ills. Once again however, we wouldn't have this problem if the Media was doing its job and tell the American people the truth about the candidates they were voting for. That's WHY the framers gave the Media constitutional powers, to ensure the American people were well informed about what was going on. If only the scumbags in the Media would do thier job!

27 posted on 02/13/2012 12:19:29 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: xhrist
"That said, no one with a brain in their head would 'pull the lever" for this guy, once in privacy of voting booth, at least not the number he's "polling" positive at...IMO"

I agree. I travel a lot and I have not met anyone that likes ZERO.
I am old enough to remember the second worst president ever. He was number one until ZERO came aboard.
The election in November will be worse than KARTAHS defeat.
It will be a shellacking like no other ever.

28 posted on 02/13/2012 12:23:05 PM PST by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968)
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To: Carbonsteel

The media of today is an arm of the democrat party, so will not tell the public what is really going on in the government.


29 posted on 02/13/2012 12:25:10 PM PST by tillacum
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To: brownsfan

What about Romneycare? What about the 2nd amendment? He want’s Romney care for ALL Americans, even though he says each state will or will not have to accept it. He also wants an amendment to the 2nd amendment. He also tells fibs.


30 posted on 02/13/2012 12:32:06 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Carbonsteel
Conservatives have underestimated him at their peril.

No, conservatives haven't underestimated BO, we knew exactly what he was all about. It is moderates in the GOP that refused (and refuse) to believe that he is an extreme Leftist, the Neville Chamberlains of the party.

31 posted on 02/13/2012 12:38:05 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (The Chicago Way isn't the American Way.)
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To: Little Ray

You’ve read Prof Williams’ of Geo. Mason U article about the free loaders and ‘corporate hand outers” relecting this grifter.


32 posted on 02/13/2012 12:39:44 PM PST by tillacum
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To: tillacum

I think when it comes down to it, were going to have to play the odds.

Romney claims to have had an epiphany concerning his liberal ideals and is now more conservative.

So, with Romney we at least have a chance things will improve. Sure, he could be full of it, but we know Obama won’t turn away from Marxism.

With Obama there is no hope, no chance things will improve and I’ll gamble on a long shot versus no shot at all any day of the week.


33 posted on 02/13/2012 12:41:06 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

We cannot send cajones to those who have none. We need to remove them and let them live on a pension we have and will pay for, until their spouse joins them in paradise.


34 posted on 02/13/2012 12:44:55 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Jim Robinson

YEP!


35 posted on 02/13/2012 12:46:01 PM PST by tillacum
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To: tillacum

Nope. I came up with that on my own based on the news. Got a link?


36 posted on 02/13/2012 12:46:29 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: tillacum

“What about Romneycare? “

Just take a deep breath and think about this for a moment.

Romney’s goal, his end game is to BE president. Romney has no vision, no agenda, he just wants to be the guy. Romney isn’t good, there’s no way he’ll repeal Obamacare. But, Romney will govern by responding to what he thinks most Americans want. That’s not leadership, but at least there’s a possibility to influence Romney.

Obama is a Marxist ideologue who hates the current configuration of America. Obama has already shown contempt for middle America, and the constitution. Obama has an agenda, and it’s well laid out. And there is no chance, none, nada, zip, zero chance that we can influence Obama or change his agenda.

We are at a fork in the road. Do you want to take the bumpy uphill road, (Romney), or just be done with it and drive off a cliff, (Obama)?


37 posted on 02/13/2012 12:47:43 PM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: Voter#537

I hope you are right.


38 posted on 02/13/2012 12:50:02 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Voter#537

I bet you only talk to people who work for a living, not the moochers, grifters, basement dwellers, Union members, etc., or the very rich.

Don’t underestimate the voting power of the “entitled” classes. Especially since the vote fraudsters will make sure they vote whether or not they show up at the polls.


39 posted on 02/13/2012 12:52:17 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Little Ray

I think I read it here on FR yesterday or the day before.


40 posted on 02/13/2012 12:53:41 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Carbonsteel

There is no doubt that the RATS are behind the trashing of our constitution. The assault on the 2nd amendment,the first amendemnt re. speech and religion. Obama has consistently appointed czars to manage large portions of the government all in violation of the onstitution. Recently, Supreme Court Justice Ginsberg goes before Egypt ian media and tells them that the new Egyptian government should follow the South African constitution and not the US constitution. Just last week the NY Times had a major article describing the US constitution as outdated and irelevent. Give Obama another four years and don’t be surprised to see a major push to do away with the two term for presidents. Its getting late and with a corrupt MSM, before we know it our freedom will become a thing of the past.


41 posted on 02/13/2012 12:55:20 PM PST by kenmcg (How)
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To: Carbonsteel

I agree with you, in part. If Romney is nominated, I will vote for him, but I don’t have to like it. It will be like having a dental appointment.


42 posted on 02/13/2012 12:56:15 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Carbonsteel
The truely scary part is that his approval is still around 50%.

The crux of the problem is that there were more than enough stupid, envious, socialistic, racist, brain dead people to elect Obama to office and they are still out there voting and breeding.

One way or another, Obama will someday be gone from the White House.
But the kind of people who put him in office will not be going away.


43 posted on 02/13/2012 12:59:58 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: brownsfan

As I’ve said, I’ll vote for Romeny if he’s nominated, but it will be like taking caster oil. I cannot even think of 4 more years with that marxist grifter in our whitehouse and his dictator wife.


44 posted on 02/13/2012 1:01:41 PM PST by tillacum
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To: Carbonsteel

Obama is an ideologue, but he is not the one in charge. He didn’t magically go from community organizer to President practically overnight. What the Obama reelection will mean to those in power is that they no longer need to fear the armed serfs. Obama’s second term will be the official end of the great era of the American yeoman and the return of the historical status quo, aka tyranny.


45 posted on 02/13/2012 1:10:47 PM PST by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: rarestia
It really has nothing to do with racism

Of course it does.

It is only one of many factors contributing to Obama's 2008 election victory and his persistent high popularity in spite of his dismal performance, but it is a factor.

In the 2008 election 96% of black voters voted for Obama. Various polls show that his suport among blacks is still above 90%. Obama could admit on national TV that he is a muslim and really does want to destroy America and institute Sharia law and blacks would still support him.

Feb 1, 2012:

"The most recent ABC News-Washington Post poll found Obama’s approval rating among blacks stands at 91 percent, higher than any other surveyed demographic category. He won 96 percent of the black vote in 2008."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/obama-targets-black-voters-in-new-campaign/


46 posted on 02/13/2012 1:19:23 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: tillacum

“As I’ve said, I’ll vote for Romeny if he’s nominated, but it will be like taking caster oil. “

Agreed.

However, it seems for every 2 of us, who will vote anyone but Obama, there is a freeper who will stay home. Staying home is as good as a vote for Obama.


47 posted on 02/13/2012 1:43:15 PM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: brownsfan

I’m in your boat. I’ll enjoy voting for Romney like a root canal if I have to, but I sure will instead of contributing to another Obama term.


48 posted on 02/13/2012 1:57:57 PM PST by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: Iron Munro

Wasn’t talking about the 2008 election. I agree with you wholeheartedly that white guilt put him in office.

I was relating the current 50% approval rating to government reliance any more than racism. People have seen that they can vote themselves from the treasury, and they’re going to continue to do so.

Taxpayers are screwed.


49 posted on 02/13/2012 2:46:39 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: brownsfan
However, it seems for every 2 of us, who will vote anyone but Obama, there is a freeper who will stay home. Staying home is as good as a vote for Obama.

I hope no freeper will stay home. As terrible a choice as it would be if we were stuck between Romney and Obama, it is especially in that situation that we need every patriot America at the polls. If we have a choice between an anti-American bigot from the far left in our White House for four more years, or an elitist from the far left moving from Massachusetts to our White House, then we need the most conservative possible Congress to slow down the White House, regardless of the winner. I almost certainly will not vote for Romney, but I will vote. The Senate and the House matter too much to risk giving either Romney or Obama a supportive liberal Congress.

50 posted on 02/13/2012 3:42:40 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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