Skip to comments.The 136th Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show (2012)
Posted on 02/13/2012 5:08:23 PM PST by nuconvert
Tonight & tomorrow night 8PM ET... Begins on the USA channel and switches over to CNBC after the first hour
All Hound, Toy, Non-Sporting and Herding breeds and varieties will be judged on Monday, with Groups judged on Monday evening.
All Sporting, Working, and Terrier breeds and varieties will be judged on Tuesday, with Groups judged on Tuesday evening. Best In Show will also be judged on Tuesday evening.
Six needs breeds will be added this year:
AMERICAN ENGLISH COONHOUND (Hound Group)
CESKY TERRIER (Terrier Group)
ENTLEBUCHER MOUNTAIN DOG (Herding Group)
FINNISH LAPPHUND (Herding Group)
NORWEGIAN LUNDEHUND (Non-Sporting Group)
XOLOITZCUINTLI (Non-Sporting Group)
OK. The unpronounceable dog shows up. ;>
I picked the Peke, but the wire haired Dachshound & Dalmation were surprises for me
Proud to say my dog’s co-breeder won BoB for both Dog and Bitch once again this year. Belgian Sheepdog, coming up!
My daughter has a smooth doxie: it is a very attractive mouse-gray color.
The Germans call them `teckels’. http://www.teckelclub.org/
WWII General Manstein trained his teckel to give the Hilter salute. The general wasn’t a big fan of the `Little Corporal’ and it was always a big hit with Manstein’s dinner guests.
OK, I’m just nattering-on now. I’m a bulldog guy.
Rintense, are you talking about WD and WB ( Winners Dog and Winners Bitch )?????
Because the last that I remember when I was showing, and that’s been about 8 years ago, there is only ONE dog ( or bitch ) that is awarded BOB or BEST OF BREED at any show.
umm that should be SIX ( 6 ) years ago. DOH ~!
Could mean BOB and BOS (Best of Breed and Best of Opposite Sex). But there is always only 1 BOB.
The elkhound placed FOURTH?
You're telling me?!
Thanks for the thread. Are you going to post tomorrow nights show too?
Hope so, that’s the terrier group night. Love the Westies.
Here's my little guy Rex, having a bit of an issue with our having given him ear drops---he ran around the house and then ended up in one of their little "day cubes" ... Rex Hates Ear Drops!
Never mind. I misinterpreted what I saw earlier. The elkhound won.
The Wire Hair Dachshound won the hound group. Nor. Elkhound came in 4th (though I can’t imagine a better elkhound).
Seems to be a problem on the WKC website with the hound group results
I agree with a previous poster, I’m sure BoB (best of breed) and BOS (best opposite sex to best of breed) was meant. It can’t mean WD or WB because Westminster is a champions only show.
I’m going by whatever Westminster has listed on their site. :)
All Group results of 1st night judging here:
Yup, only the only 1 BOB as I said......... Plus the judges at WKC do award JAMS.
Yup, I know WKC is a CH only show . I guess I was trying to get Rintense to be more specific LOL so just used the WD / WB terminology.
I’ve not shown for 6 years so I’ve been outta the loop with all this GCH stuff and how that goes. I read last night that they , WKC , are changing their rules somewhat , starting next year. I didn’t read the details but saw the headline on the WKC website.
I also looked up the labrador line up last night to see if one of the dogs I co bred made it in but he didn’t. But I did see that one of my favorite kennels has multiple dogs entered so I’m rooting for Pristine for BOB in Labs ~
Forgive my lack of Congratulations. ..... so I’ll say Congrats now. Better late than never :-)
I retired for the night right after I posted to you. I was in danger of having a keyboard stuck to my forehead ( falling asleep at the puter and hitting head on keyboard )
I haven’t shown in years either. I’m planning on showing again so I’m going to have to learn the new rules, titles etc.
One thing I’m watching are the clothes. Some of these people need wardrobe consultants. “Does this dress make me look fat?” , YES!
I’ll look for the Lab in group tonight. It’s always fun to have a rooting interest.
(Best OF Breed)
I thought Martha only did black things - black Chows, etc.
What is JAMS? I haven’t paid much attention to AKC stuff in 20 years so all the new things they added mostly passed me by (all that Agility stuff, etc; my world was just conformation and obedience, with occasional notes on field trials).
What is “GCH”? - I’m betting it doesn’t exist! Or is that a specialty club honor?
“for some reason German Shepherds usually get through and all the Belgian family, shepherd, sheepdog etc never get through”
Actually, GS have a harder time than they should, being the most popular dog world-wide for decades. They don’t win Group that much, and finally Manhattan won the whole BIS - years ago.
The problem consistently is popularity. These judges don’t actually deal with most of these breeds personally, so that itself is trouble. Then couple that with the fact there are few of rarer breed to judge. Judges don’t really get much practice with rarer breeds, and frankly I think they discount them simply because they don’t know much.
It was a shock for the Sussex Spaniel to win BIS the other year.
was one of the most impressive beautiful German Shepherds I have ever seen, wasn’t too keen on the one last night though.
Lordy no! When I watched her, long ago, she *always* had a liver colored *Paw Paw* wandering in and out the viewing field of the camera. Then came *GK*...*Ghenghis Khan*...Back in 2009, she lost GK in an explosion/fire at a Pennsylvania kennel where he was being boarded. This is a descendent of GK, GK2 was bred by Karen Tracy, who is the co-owner.
The GS last night was nice, but he’s no Manhattan.
He did seem to show better by the end of the nite, though.
>What is GCH?<
Grand champion - AKC figured out that once the average dog got its championship, it went home never to be in a show ring again. So now people compete in the BOB classes to get a grand championship, then 2nd grand, 3rd, 4th, etc.
I’ll take my retired champions into the obedience or rally classes instead. I think a good dog needs a title at both ends of its name.
The German Shephard really had a working dog attitude when he showed. Beautiful animal.
Some of the other winners surprised me....Some more than others.
Looking forward to tonight. THe GS has my heart so far....and I’m not usually fond of that breed.
How come, despite getting German Shepherd Review for 10 years, I’ve never seen in the gazillion ads or recaps a “GCh” or “Grand Champion” notated? Now, they’re more obsessed with the “specialty” side, and definitely our own “Grand Victor” (GV) is noted if the dog won that award (it’s not an honor, it’s just a single show that’s needed), but I’m sure some of them are in all-breed (Dallas) alot and I can’t believe you cannot get “beyond Ch.” via specialty shows.
Manhattan was nice (strange for a Covy-Tucker Hill who are kings of the “American” dog), not perfect, but nice. I like the recent Dallas better (except the strange weak/side ears). Also, my dog’s grandsire, the wonderful top-level all-breed GS in the early ‘80s http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=523475
However, I’ll never forget attending with my dog the Old Dominion KC show way back in ‘85 or so (it used to be the biggest show in the country, if not now). He was listed to be there. However, he didn’t come. A GS man I was talking to said the dog was probably having “hip issues” because he often wouldn’t show up when his hips were bothering him. True? Untrue? In any case, it has marred my view of him.
(BTW, my not-so-great dog was 2nd of 2 in Novice! LOL)
This is my problem all the time. I want German Shepherd to be represented and win, but yet I moan and groan every year how poor the GS is. I’d prefer a serious, old-fashioned GS to win it all.
I thought the Rough Collie was gorgeous (they’re my 2nd favorite), and sorry he didn’t place.
agree on all points.
I’m planning on getting back out there here in a couple years or so.
I bred a bitch I co-owned twice and she didnt take either time. Lots and lots of money down the drain but ya gotta try. So I pretty much have to start over although I do have a dog I co bred out there that’s an AM/CAN CHampion that I’ll be able to get to use one of these days as a stud dog.
The bitch in labs to root for is really CH Tabatha’s Pristine.
Carol has I think 4 dogs entered. Pester is another of her extraordinary bitches.
I wished I could watch it.........wahhhhh but I’ll be on the lab forums to read about it.
JAM........Judges Award of Merit
That is a specialty show thing but they do it at WKC because all the dogs there are Champions of record.
I did the breed ring and Hunting Retriever Tests. My oldest lab bitch has her AKC JH aka Junior Hunting Retriever Title. Now her sire otoh, had over 20 Master Hunter legs/passes.
GCH is Grand Champion.....it’s a relatively new thing AKC has done.
I do believe you have to be a CH first to get any “Grand” points.
I think a good dog needs a title at both ends of its name.
Amen to THAT ~ I have labs and always strived to kee the retriever in the Labrador.
My oldest lab just hated showing , she is at home in the ring. I did breed her however, to a Champion / Master Hunter Lab ( Blades )who has now went onto the Bridge.
Blades ( Am/Can Ch Lorals Got Our Power Play CD MH ) has an incredible story to read.
He was burnt in what was believed , a fire set by peta A$$holes , in the dog trailer on his way to a Hunt Test.
Thousands and thousands later, he survived but it took a long long time and skin grafts etc and he came back to get his Master Hunter title. Freakin incredible dog. Just incredible.
“. Lots and lots of money down the drain but ya gotta try”
Tell me about it. My new puppies are three years and three failed attempts later. I’m co-breeder so if they don’t turn out it’s my fault! Having males out there for later breeding use is a good idea. The sire of my litter died 20 years ago.
I saw a bitch named Plush with Pristine as the dam. She got award of merit but not the breed. As they say, better luck next year.