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NYT/CBS poll shows conservatives consolidating behind Santorum
Hotair ^ | 02/14/2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 02/14/2012 6:47:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Maryhere

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151 posted on 02/14/2012 8:59:13 PM PST by Mountain Mary ("Mush is not going to carry the day" Mark Levin 2/09/12)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I’m sorry you don’t see that your little fun facts are ANECDOTAL at best, and that you argumentative style is annoying.


152 posted on 02/14/2012 9:27:34 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: anglian

I was thinking the same thing. As soon as BO brought up the free contraceptives crap, I knew he was up to something-it was so out of the blue. That’s his MO. He likes to catch people off guard with a straw dog.

Now, on the other hand. Nothing a conservative says to Dick Gregory is going to play well. The outcome is already determined. Chris Wallace- I’m a little more concerned but anyway, Santorum OR Newt OR Gingrich is more right than wrong and I hope the Holy Spirit will intercede and save them from themselves by Nov!


153 posted on 02/14/2012 10:14:50 PM PST by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fine.

But Gingrich and Santorum supporters need to stop firing at each other.

Beat Romney.

And go from there.


154 posted on 02/14/2012 11:59:59 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: Born to Conserve

I see, so all the things the Newt supporters have said about Rick Santorum was not ?


155 posted on 02/15/2012 1:40:31 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: DNA.2012

But Gingrich and Santorum supporters need to stop firing at each other.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!


156 posted on 02/15/2012 4:23:54 AM PST by swpa_mom
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To: xzins

Santorum is Bush I in a sweater vest- extremely timid & weak, and is easily flustered and agitated when confronted. Sadly, this does not play well on t.v. He’s already being successfully labeled as a right wing religious fanatic who will take away your contraception. He does not know how to handle the media, and will easily be destroyed by them. His macaca moment is coming.

Newt on the other hand is more conservative than Little Ricky, isn’t afraid to stick it to Obama and the media, and has bold plans to take our country back from the socialists. Yes, he’s had 3 wives- I don’t care. He’s clearly our best chance to win against Obama.


157 posted on 02/15/2012 5:21:59 AM PST by petercooper (The one difference between Obama & Romney: Obama is only half white.)
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To: petercooper

Nonetheless, Rick Santorum is leading nationally, and recent polls in both Michigan and Ohio have him on top in both states.

AND, he has a great chance to turn very blue Pennsylvania to the right side.

We must not ignore the strengths of Santorum just because he isn’t our preferred candidate.

There is no way that Santorum is Bush I. He might have a streak of Reagan Democrat in him, but that puts him in the company of Zell Miller and Ronald Reagan.

As I said, he has an 80% rating from ACU and he did that from a very, very blue state and still managed to win 2 senatorial and two house elections.


158 posted on 02/15/2012 5:31:25 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Christie at the beach

Santorum is getting on my nerves recently. Especially his goofy family behind him at CPAC.


159 posted on 02/15/2012 5:36:25 AM PST by PghBaldy (Bart Stupak. Onece again, Obama proves he is not an honest broker. He can't be trusted.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“His support of Arlen Specter ... I chalk this up to ‘being a loyal party guy’”

He’s explained his support of Specter. It was in exchange for Specter’s promise to vote for conservative SCOTUS nominees — which he did. Possibly Toomey would’ve done the same thing; I don’t know.

The issue of future SCOTUS appointments is huge in this election. Seems that Santorum and Gingrich would select the best candidates. Paul is a whack job and nobody knows what he’d do. Romney had to meet with a coach to tell him what conservative buzz words to use in speeches and debates, and that says everything we need to know about him. The dolt didn’t even have a clue that saying we should raise the minimum wage wouldn’t sit well with conservatives. That’s basic for a conservative; how could he not know that?


160 posted on 02/15/2012 6:10:18 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: ohioWfan

If I wanted your worthless opinion, I would ask for it. Nice of you to put words in my mouth.

Either way, you do not make the rules around here.

Glad I don’t live in your stupid state.


161 posted on 02/15/2012 8:11:55 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: madmaximus
Glad I don’t live in your stupid state.

The words of a true thinker.........albeit better than the vile, irrational ones you posted yesterday....

If I had any authority on FR (trust me, I don't), I would ban or suspend anyone who implied that having Obama destroy this country for four more years would be better than ANY of the four remaining candidates.......and that includes the insane Ron Paul.

If you truly understood the damage this Marxist regime is doing, no matter how much you hated Republicans, you would never say such a thing.

However, I have no doubt that you'll continue posting that you prefer 'the evil we know'.....Barack Hussein Obama.

And you'll still fantasize that you're a conservative......

162 posted on 02/15/2012 8:18:43 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: madmaximus
If Obama wins, so be it. Better to have the official evil than the one in disguise

Correction. In your post #62, you said it would be "better" to have Obama (the 'official evil').

It shows a complete lack of knowledge of the unparalleled Marxist evil going on under this regime if you prefer him over ANY of the four remaining candidates.

You used the word "BETTER." I didn't put anything in your mouth. It was all you, mad. ALL you.

163 posted on 02/15/2012 8:26:00 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

I understand completely what the Obama regime is doing; I always have.

What I’m saying is there is no difference between 0 and Romney, and Santorum is aiding and abetting Romney.

Gingrich is the only chance we’ve got.

RINOs are worse than actual Democrats. Traitors are worse than actual enemies. Ever consider that POV??


164 posted on 02/15/2012 8:33:25 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: ohioWfan

Right, because if the Repuke nominee is Romney or any RINO like him, then the fight is lost. Then this country is done for.

And we will all have our own worthless party to blame.


165 posted on 02/15/2012 8:36:54 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: madmaximus
I consider that POV pure BUNK.

Saying that there is NO difference between Romney, Santorum and Obama is NONSENSE.

Do your homework. Research Marxism, Saul Alinsky, Obama's absolute trampling of and scoffing at the Constitution, his abuse of power, his Keynsian economic garbage, his lawlessness, his theft, his hatred of everything American, his pro-Muslim sympathies, his destruction of our relationship with our allies, his impotence in the face of the dangers our enemies pose, his hatred of Christianity, his pro-infanticide, Chicago thuggery.......

Then get back to me and try to say with a straight face that Obama is "BETTER" than Santorum.

166 posted on 02/15/2012 8:41:54 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: madmaximus
YOU are claiming to be a Republican??? ROFLOL!

YOU just said that Obama would be "BETTER" than Romney or Santorum.

I'm sorry, but that's pathetically funny. Far more pathetic, but still amazingly, stunningly funny.....

167 posted on 02/15/2012 8:44:13 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Yes he is liberal. He is a fiscal liberal. Santorum is NOT a small government conservative by any means. He is also a union shill.


168 posted on 02/15/2012 8:59:53 AM PST by Def Conservative (Santorum=Union Shill.)
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To: ohioWfan

Not as pathetic as your mother...

Anyway, I never said I was a Repuke, again, putting words in my mouth.

I am conservative, Romney and Santorum are leftists.


169 posted on 02/15/2012 9:05:21 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: ohioWfan

There is no difference between them. They are all Marxists and statists of some kind. All that matters is that they are not conservative.

I already know my facts. Oh, and how did Dubya work out for us?? He wasn’t so conservative after all...

I didn’t say Obama is better than Santorum, I said I it would be better to have Obama, the official evil, in office than a RINO, evil in disguise, mucking up the party and pushing back any chances conservatives have.


170 posted on 02/15/2012 9:08:41 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: madmaximus
And we will all have our own worthless party to blame.

Anyway, I never said I was a Repuke, again, putting words in my mouth

Wow. I've run across freepers who couldn't understand what others wrote, but you're the very first you can't even read and understand what YOU write.

Remarkable. You said "OUR OWN PARTY"....that means you are claiming to be a Republican.

Sheesh.

171 posted on 02/15/2012 9:15:02 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: madmaximus
Not as pathetic as your mother...

Oh yeah......and this....

Not even clever for a twelve year old. How old are you........eleven?? LOL!

172 posted on 02/15/2012 9:16:17 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: madmaximus
I didn’t say Obama is better than Santorum, I said I it would be better to have Obama

And I repeat that, had I any authority on this forum, you as a NEWBIE, would be banned for saying it would be BETTER to have Obama than Santorum.

Good bye, newb. See you later......if you survive the Viking Kitties' wrath.

173 posted on 02/15/2012 9:19:21 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

I’m a lot older than you, boy.


174 posted on 02/15/2012 9:30:38 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: ohioWfan

Well, thank God you don’t. Otherwise the forum would be a ghost town.

You know you’re wrong, that’s why you’re backing off finally.


175 posted on 02/15/2012 9:32:27 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: madmaximus
Then you really have no excuse for your infantile behavior, do you?

btw, Mom's are usually not 'boys.' Skipped biology class, eh?

176 posted on 02/15/2012 9:34:27 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: madmaximus
No, actually, the vast majority of freepers are actually conservatives. Not newbie pretenders like you, preferring Obama to conservative candidates as you have repeatedly stated that you do...

Once again, good luck avoiding the ZOT. Heaven knows, you've already earned it. Eventually your facade will fall, and you'll be gone, and I'll still be here discussing conservatism with genuine conservatives as I was 10 years before you signed on.

Bye. :)

177 posted on 02/15/2012 9:39:02 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: madmaximus
One last word of advice - since you apparently don't realize that this is a pro-life, pro-military forum, you'd be wise to never mention again that you think having Obama is BETTER than having a pro-life, pro-family, pro-military, pro-American candidate like Rick Santorum.

I know you drop the name "Gingrich" to keep from being tossed out on your keyster, but it isn't wise to actually state in black and white that you think having Obama is "better" than having someone like Santorum as President.

Obama is raping our military. He hates our soldiers. He is violently anti-American. He can't wait to kill more innocent babies, destroy families, and rid this country of faith and morality.

And having him is not BETTER than anything we've ever suffered in this great Republic.

He is killing this country, and you don't seem to care.

Once again, good luck avoiding being banned.

178 posted on 02/15/2012 9:56:20 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

Since when are Santorum and Romney conservatives??


179 posted on 02/15/2012 9:58:50 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: ohioWfan

Santorum is good on the social issues, but bad on the fiscal ones. He’s pro-union, big tax-and-spender, IOW, he can’t make up his mind.

I am very pro-life and pro-family, and so is Gingrich, who is also fiscally conservative.

Santorum is hardly conservative, except for being pro-life.


180 posted on 02/15/2012 10:02:15 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: ohioWfan

Banned?? In you dreams.

Not wise to make ASSumptions about people you don’t know.


181 posted on 02/15/2012 10:03:28 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: madmaximus
You just can't avoid the obscenity can you? More signs of gross immaturity, at a number of levels.

And once again, good luck in surviving on a conservative forum while espousing the evil Obama over any Republican.

It's in black and white. NO big deal to have the country completely destroyed.

If I didn't know better, I'd swear you were posting at DU.

182 posted on 02/15/2012 10:10:58 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: madmaximus
Oh.......in my list of Obama's evils, I forgot to mention SC Justices.

You are now on record as PREFERRING another Sotomayor or Kagan over any conservative Justice that Santorum would select.

So not only do you PREFER the 'officially evil' Obama's military hatred, violation of religious freedom, and all out war on human life, old and young, but you PREFER another sick, leftist SC Justice over a conservative one.

Yep. You sure are a conservative, madmaximus. Indeed you are.....

183 posted on 02/15/2012 10:58:32 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

assumptions is an obscenity?? That’s news to me.

You really like making stuff up, don’t you??


184 posted on 02/15/2012 11:02:58 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: ohioWfan

Again, why do you insist on putting words in my mouth??


185 posted on 02/15/2012 11:04:19 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: ohioWfan

I didn’t say any Republican, I said Romney, Santorum or other RINOS. I already said I support Gingrich or any other conservative.

Can you even read??


186 posted on 02/15/2012 11:05:48 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: Born to Conserve
As far as many Santorum supporters can recall, there was a lot of talk that Rick was Romney's stalking horse and was working for Mitt Romney...
Now the shoe is on the other foot, live with it.
187 posted on 02/15/2012 12:02:42 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: madmaximus
Again, why do you insist on putting words in my mouth??

The words came off your finger tips, boy. I didn't make anything up.

I've decided that you're not bright enough to be a Gingrich supporter. They're smart conservatives who love the country, and you don't seem to be any of those things (plus, you're unbelieveably dishonest and vapid).

I think you're either a closet Paulite, or a DU troll. Nothing you say fits what a conservative would say.

So begone troll. There's work to be done, and you're clearly not going to do it.

Enjoy your "Having Obama is better" fantasy. YOUR words. Not my putting them in your mouth.

Sooner or later you may learn that words mean things, and when you say "Having Obama is better" there are going to be a lot of bright people who think you're either nuts, or a troll........or both.

Perhaps at some point, you can defend why Obama's choice for a SC Justice is "better" than Rick Santorum's would be. I think a lot of us would love to know the "logic" behind that.

188 posted on 02/15/2012 2:16:44 PM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: madmaximus
I already said I support Gingrich or any other conservative.

I know that's what you've said. That's your cover.

NO Gingrich supporter prefers Obama to Santorum. Not one. They may not like Santorum, or even hate him, but not a single one of them thinks that Obama is "better" than Rick is. Not one.

Can you even read??

Yes. Very well, thank you.

That's why I'm still here. Because I can read what you've said, and that includes that "having Obama is better than having Santorum" as President.

It's because I can read and think that I know you're a phony and won't let your little "I'm a conservative" charade go without being challenged.

You could end this by taking back your stupid words, you know? You could say that you don't really mean the stupid words you posted.

Then we could both let this thing go.

But as long as you insist that having Obama is better, you'll get a fight from actual conservatives. (That would be me).

189 posted on 02/15/2012 2:23:20 PM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan

You are so full of crap. And there you go again, twisting my own words for your own BS.

I don’t owe you a god dang thing. You can KMA, cuz I really don’t give a crap what you think.


190 posted on 02/15/2012 6:58:27 PM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: ohioWfan

Well, boy, I’ve decided that you’re not bright enough to be a conservative. You’re unbelievably dishonest, cowardly and stupid.

You’re the one acting trollish, so you can go take a hike.


191 posted on 02/15/2012 7:00:51 PM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: xzins

Two surprises in this election cycle. (1) That Santorum is “in the running” to a degree, and (2) Many on our forum strongly dislike “Saint Rick.” I suppose I have been hoodwinked to a degree, for I don’t think Rick is as fiscally conservative as I would have liked, but honestly who else is there? The apple has already dropped on Newton’s head.


192 posted on 02/15/2012 7:28:12 PM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, less baggage, articulate, passionate)
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To: American Constitutionalist

“I see, so all the things the Newt supporters have said about Rick Santorum was not ?”

Huh? Did I say they ‘was’ not?

There is a lot of opportunity to learn to think and speak if you look for it.


193 posted on 02/15/2012 7:30:02 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Theodore R.
The apple has already dropped on Newton’s head.

Still have to count the votes of some 40 plus states, oh, and someone needs to get to 1100 plus delegates, the leader currently has how many?

194 posted on 02/15/2012 7:31:38 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: American Constitutionalist

“Now the shoe is on the other foot, live with it.”

I’m living with it just fine, whatever ‘it’ is. You on the other hand seem to be offended by people with differing opinions.

How’s this: I think everything you think is really stupid.

There, does the fact that someone you’ve never met says such a thing really bother you?

This is too easy.


195 posted on 02/15/2012 7:35:05 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: madmaximus

Agree! Santorum will never be the nominee. Have been reading a lot of blogs, news sites and tweets and there are a lot of conservatives that will not support RS


196 posted on 02/15/2012 7:48:58 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Born to Conserve

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204062704577223583032248366.html


197 posted on 02/15/2012 9:00:08 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: madmaximus

“I am very pro-life and pro-family, and so is Gingrich, who is also fiscally conservative.”

So why is Santorum for the Ryan plan, the plan that Newt denounced as right wing engineering?


198 posted on 02/15/2012 11:05:01 PM PST by ari-freedom
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To: madmaximus
I've said all I can say to intellectually refute your spurious claim that having Obama is better than having a Santorum presidency. I have enumerated the reasons why your contention is vapid, wrong-headed, and not consistent with conservatism, and I have done so repeatedly.

Therefore, I will conclude this 'discussion' with you, mad one, using words befitting your intellectual and emotional level......

Your mother wears combat boots.

Have a great life. :)

199 posted on 02/16/2012 6:27:29 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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