Posted on 02/15/2012 7:58:13 AM PST by Nachum
Senator Boxer warned yesterday that if the HHS contraception mandate was repealed it would set a dangerous precedence of religious rights trumping the right to be insured. On MSNBC's Politics Nation with Al Sharpton last night, Boxer affirmed that under the proposed amendment proposed by Sen. Roy Blunt, an employer would not be forced by the government to pay for medical practices against his religion. "I mean, are they serious? Sharpton exclaimed, "How do you make a law where an employer can decide his own religious beliefs violate your right to be insured?" "Oh Absolutely," Boxer said,
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Hey Babs!
Did those “insurance rights” originate in the Bible or the Constitution?
I distinctly remember an insurance clause, right before the establishment clause.
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All you need to know about the mentality of leftists: Positive “Rights” > Negative Rights.
I hate these enemies.
What a conversation that must have been. Sorry I missed it...........
Two liberals expressing their outrage over this birth control issue.
What channel is MSNBC again? I seem to miss the important liberal oratory on the issues of day, time after time.....................
Enemy within.
This is one very deeply confused woman.
Reminds me of those "men's magazines" from years ago at the barbershop that featured Nazi Sex Slaves on the covers, and then you opened up the mag to read about some ol'gal in a rest home who used to model, but she had her memories.
Boxer doesn't even have her memories.
Boxer has lost her tiny little mind. The “right” to insurance trumps religious rights?! She needs to list the martyrs to insurance rights throughout the ages.
(sound of flipping pages)
Lessee, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, right to keep and bear arms, right to be secure in my personal effects, Constitution is the supreme law of the land...
Nope, nothing in my copy of the Constitution about any right to be insured.
She should hang for treason for all that she has done.
LLS
A man made right over a natural or are we allowed to say as our founders said a God given right. The difference being that you can stop a man made right but you can’t stop a God given right.
“How do you make a law where an employer can decide his own religious beliefs violate your right to be insured?”
Everyone can be insured. Buy a policy. Go ahead. No on is stopping you. Not even the Catholic Church.
Why can the Rev’m Al, on the other hand, violate my religious freedom and conscience by making me pay for his b*tch’s abortion?
The trouble with Darwinism is that it doesn’t work fast enough...for some.
No where does the Constitution guarantee a right to religious freedom.
Anyone who says otherwise is a racist, sexist, homophobic member of the 1% wanting to get out of paying their fair share.
Now you little people go pay your taxes - we need raises. :)
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of insurance, or prohibiting the selling thereof; or abridging the freedom of insurance, or of insurance agents; or the right of the people peaceably to purchase insurance, and to petition the Government to mandate that it be supplied to them for free. In all cases in which insurance rights conflict with religious rights, insurance rights shall trump religious rights."
Agreed. And US law schools continue to fill the heads of ill-informed students with this ridiculous nonsense each day. To hell with the history of the constitution and what its text actually says.
It's in the Constitution -- didn't you learn about "life, liberty and the pursuit of free sex without consequences" in school?
This stupid woman need to have the First Amendment tattooed under her f’ing eyelids.
Our education system stinks. Sure I learned about the 1st amendment. But they completely skipped the one providing “the right to be insured”. I had civics classes pretty frequently from elementary school through college and not a single one covered that part of the Constitution.
Is that what she’s telling the muzzies too?
Oh, wait, they’re friends of BO - pun intended.
“No Medicine!” Only the government can say that.
A very dangerous idiot...they are poking the American People with a stick..trying to assess the potential and threshold of violent push-back....just collecting “data” they “need” to know as they continue to assemble their virtual “Berlin Wall”....
Ummm...when ObamaCare kicks in and the Muslims start screaming because they don't "believe" in insurance...will this lying sack of poo come down on the same side of the argument and still maintain that insurance 'rights' trumps religious rights?
She'll flip-flop like a dying mackerel on the deck of a fishing boat.
She's no idiot!
She knows in the small minds of many people the ability to discriminate between requiring employers to pay for birth control (and soon abortions) is indistinguishable from the right to birth control.
This is a calculated attempt by the administration to focus this years debate away from the economy and on Republicans wanting to take away your rights.
If Obama were to order insurance companies to include coverage for oil changes as a basic part of every car insurance policy, and the insurance companies were to object, Barbara Boxer would say that the insurance companies are preventing people from getting oil changes.
“How do you make a law where an employer can decide his own religious beliefs violate your right to be insured?”
How do you make a law where you can decide your own desire to be insured violates an employer’s religious beliefs?
More to the point:
How do you make a law where you can decide your own religious beliefs regarding insurance take precedence over an employer’s religious beliefs regarding insurance?
Because that’s what it is, religious belief against religious belief.
I swear, I'm almost at the point of wishing for a right-wing military coup to prevent these communists from taking over. They're infecting every level of the Legislative, Judicial, and Executive branchs of our government. And who put them in power? The masses of communist/social justice stooges in our population. The problem is NOT just with who is getting elected to positions of power, the primary problem is with the ideology of the people who are electing them.
Joe McCarthy, where are you?
Where is that "right" located in the U.S. Constitution????? I get I have a "right" to an abortion, a "right" for chicken nuggets but you've got me on this one, please help.
From Henry VIII to Elizabeth I to the Nazi German Christian Movement to the Patriotic Church in China, the strategy of tyrants at war with the Catholic Church is to create a fake nationalized church docile to the will of the tyrant and to use it as a weapon against the real Church.
Obama is now attempting precisely that.
In partibus infidelium.
Damned straight he was right!
LLS
Scary but true. That is exactly what they are doing over and over again.
Start with something obscure like making recess appointments while Congress is in pro forma session. A little bluster... no real objections. Good.
Move on to something a little bigger like that pesky free excercise of religion thing. Oooooh, they are stamping their feet now. No pitchforks yet though. Good.
Next, we will....???????
The First Amendment's protections trump and make invalid any efforts by this so-called "progressive" Administration and its allies like Boxer to superimpose their own man-made coercively-imposed laws over "the People's" "Creator-endowed" (therefore, unalienable) rights.
Boxer is either ignorant of the majesty and supremacy of the Constitution's protections against persons like her who achieve positions of power in government, or she relies on what she believes to be the ignorance of the electorate.
Boxer doesn't give a damn about the Constitution. To her, like Obama, it is nothing more than a hurdle to be overcome.
As for the ignorance of the electorate - her belief is well founded. After all, the electorate has been putting these shysters in office on a regular basis for the past 80 years.
The Democrats long ago came to understand something conservatives never seem to get: One half the population have lower than average IQ's.
No confusion at all. The left knows their voting block has no clue what is in the constitution. So when they spout this idiocy they fully expect the idiots to believe the constitution contains a right to be insured. Its by design. Or they could just be idiots themselves.
I’m kind of proud of Boxer...2nd place in the working group at Westminster this year!
What about inalienable rights endowed by our Creator?
Agreed!
Obama could not be more clear about the role he sees in society for “bitter clingers”: prohibited from acting on their outdated views, and free even to speak about them only to the extent of their independent wealth, since right-thinkers will refuse to associate with dissenters in any economic sphere (public, business, or not-for-profit).
In a sense this is refreshing. If Obama is re-elected it will be a pretty clear signal that a strong majority of Americans agree with this view either whole-heartedly, or as the main concession of a bargain which secures them the government preferences and redistribution that it their main concern. (It’d be a strong majority since you can fairly assume that people on Obama’s side are a preponderance of non-voters.) It’s good for elections to know what’s at stake.
Yes Babs but does Obamacare extend health insurance to gargoyles?
So! Babsie would favor cancelling the exemption that Muslims get. I think she needs to be questioned about that.
Indeed and we have many of them,note Obama&Co.
Exactly. Leftists vision of rights are rights that impose obligations on others (positive rights; the right to speak freely includes the right to have someone else pay for the printing press etc.), whereas my vision of rights (or freedoms) imposes no such obligation (negative rights). Simply put leftists are for enslaving some and “freeing” others while I am for freedom for everyone.
As far as I know, the Muzzies having been lying low on this. It makes me wonder if they’ve already received reassurance that there’ll be an exemption for them. Just like they get a pass on issues concerning sodomy, even though it’s Muzzies, not Christians, who stone sodomites to death.
Yes, they are indeed getting bolder and more blatant. I expect to see persecution of Christians become more overt in the very near future.
Amd if Hussein gets a second term without the prospect of reelection slowing his roll, all bets are off.
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