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Tea Partiers Challenge Lugar Residency (Indiana RINO)
theindychannel.com ^ | February 15, 2012 | Uncredited

Posted on 02/15/2012 10:53:34 AM PST by Abathar

NDIANAPOLIS -- An Indiana tea party group is accusing U.S. Sen. Richard Lugar of voter fraud and wants him removed from the ballot.

Hoosiers for Conservative Senate is asking Gov. Mitch Daniels to act on a complaint over Lugar's residency that was filed in November.

The tea party umbrella group supports state Treasurer Richard Mourdock in the GOP primary that poses Lugar's toughest election challenge in years.

Mourdock held a news conference Wednesday morning in front of the northwest side home that Lugar uses as a voting residence, even though he sold the home in 1977.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: dicklugar; mourdock
This makes Charlie White look like an alter boy if true. (He is Indiana's Sec. of State that used his ex-wife's home for voting address where he was staying sometimes, nailed last week on several felonies)

The big question will be what Daniels does with this, he's been a long time supporter of Lugar so it could get interesting now that this is all becoming so public right after Charlie's conviction.

1 posted on 02/15/2012 10:53:44 AM PST by Abathar
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To: Abathar

An “alter boy” sort of like Chaz Bono?


2 posted on 02/15/2012 10:59:18 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Romney ruined Massachusetts. Now he wants to ruin the nation.)
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To: Abathar

Citizen of the World...


3 posted on 02/15/2012 11:11:58 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Abathar

Why don’t we just defeat Lugar the Loser on the merits? This “residency” crap is getting old. IMO.


4 posted on 02/15/2012 11:17:21 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Abathar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlKwGSBcFOI


5 posted on 02/15/2012 11:17:58 AM PST by Sybeck1 (It's official, Mitt can't win in either Dixie or the Midwest.)
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To: Abathar

Did they nail White on voting or was it illegally collecting his Fisher’s council salary?


6 posted on 02/15/2012 11:20:16 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Dick should give it up and retire with honors.

He’s far too old to be doing this.

I will give him credit for one thing, though. His re-election commercials are carpet bombing Baraq on the Keystone pipeline issue, and with gasoline set to soar in price, this will be a GREAT issue for Republicans nationwide.


7 posted on 02/15/2012 11:23:59 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“This “residency” crap is getting old. IMO.”

No, it is not.

It’s fundamental.

BTW, Obama’s true citizenship is just as important.


8 posted on 02/15/2012 11:26:59 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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9 posted on 02/15/2012 11:57:09 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Abathar
The two situations are not similar.

Now, the bad news ~ Lugar is still an Indiana resident. That's the law ~ and the rules of the Senate.

You folks can spend an awful lot of time playing this residence higglypiggly and not get anywhere with it.

What you have to understand is that we've had a Senate and a House for over 200 years. In the earliest days a Congressman might be away at Congress for months and show up "back home" at quite irregular times. Later on when Congress was made a full time job laws were passed to enable them to live near Congress as well as back in their home districts or states.

Let's put it this way, there ways to get at Lugar that are more meaningful. Maybe you ought to check and see why he let them tear down the Hoosier Dome he'd worked so hard to get built ~ now that'd be much more likely to yield some positive benefit to his challengers.

10 posted on 02/15/2012 12:01:56 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Abathar

Darn, forgot the (/s)


11 posted on 02/15/2012 12:04:13 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Abathar

Having previously spent a number of years in the US Army, I always “maintained” a “home of record” in the state I lived in at the time I entered service. So even though I didn’t own a home in that state or live there for over 7 years I continued to vote (and pay state & local taxes) as a resident of that state. I used my parents’ address as my “home” address. This was legal and proper and, in the same way, it is legal and proper for Lugar to maintain his Indiana “residency” while in Congressional service as one of Indiana’s Senators.

But Lugar SHOULD NOT HAVE maintained that his “residence” was the house that he sold to a non relative in the 70s. That is clearly a stupid thing to do. He should use an address with some connection to him — if only a post office box.

I don’t live in Indiana but have contributed to Richard Mourdock’s campaign in the Republican primary and hope that he defeats Lugar. I encourage all Freepers who live in Indiana to support Mourdock however you can. Lugar definitely needs to go. Obama can then pick some other person (hopefully from a non “Red” state) as his favorite Republican.


12 posted on 02/15/2012 12:06:35 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: fishtank; SoFloFreeper
SlFloFreeper is right ~ now, Fishtank, go check the laws on the matter first. This is a US Senator ~ he works in Washington ~ it's a full time job ~ he's an Indiana resident.

In fact, irrespective of what Indiana does or demands of him to retain his residency, the Commonwealth of Virginia where he has a crash pad WILL NOT EVER CLAIM HIM AS A RESIDENT because their laws forestall the use of time here as a Congressman counting toward time required to become a resident.

Time spent in Congress doesn't count toward creating residency for DC either, or Maryland, or any place else.

Beat the man on the issues!

13 posted on 02/15/2012 12:09:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: House Atreides
A Post Office Box does not count as a residence (even in a non city delivery service area). To rent a box you must prove where you live BTW.

Virtually every state has some measure governing residency while in the military. The US Senate has its own rules for its members and in the hierarchy of order, those rules prevail in every case. Only the Senate can remove a member. People who question Lugar's residency need to file an inquiry or a complaint with, among others, the President of the Senate, or the Vice President, or the Majority leader.

I am certain those fine gentlemen will hop on that like a flea on a dog!

(Some time in the next million years)

14 posted on 02/15/2012 12:14:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SoFloFreeper

Does SoFloFreeper stand for South Florida Freeper?
If so then you should be familiar with Senior wexler who used his in laws address for residency and in fact hadn’t lived or even owned any property in his district for years.’
That and other shenanagans forced him to quit, thankfully
So yes residency can be trifulling it can be effective too.


15 posted on 02/15/2012 1:11:23 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: nascarnation

I think he got it on all counts, but the big one was using his ex’s home as his residence, that was the one that got him in the most trouble I think.


16 posted on 02/15/2012 1:13:41 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Joe Boucher

Wexler was the first thing I thought of when I read that article, I know state laws are different but once the media got hold and ran with it he was toast within 6 months.

Hoping that the same thing happens to Lugar, enough to make him retire at least.


17 posted on 02/15/2012 1:19:02 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Lugar is but one of many old goats who should just go drool somewhere else besides congress.


18 posted on 02/15/2012 1:24:41 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Look at everyone in congress, many have such an arrangement.


19 posted on 02/15/2012 1:27:51 PM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: House Atreides

Throw the bums out.


20 posted on 02/15/2012 1:28:47 PM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Joe Boucher

The facts in the Wexler case were different.


21 posted on 02/15/2012 1:30:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Abathar

Gee but the media tells us the TEA party movement is over hmmm whom to believe?


22 posted on 02/15/2012 2:25:22 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: muawiyah

FAct is Wexler didn’t live in his district.
He didn’t run for re-election as a result.
How’s that different??


23 posted on 02/15/2012 2:50:13 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Joe Boucher
I think the address Wexler did use wasn't in his district. Lugar's address is certainly in Indiana.

You might take a real good look at Indiana laws first ~ in these residency cases folks usually run off half cocked before bothering to find out what the code says and what the courts have ruled.

Shouldn't take more than a few minutes.

24 posted on 02/15/2012 4:13:56 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Joe Boucher
I think the address Wexler did use wasn't in his district. Lugar's address is certainly in Indiana.

You might take a real good look at Indiana laws first ~ in these residency cases folks usually run off half cocked before bothering to find out what the code says and what the courts have ruled.

Shouldn't take more than a few minutes.

25 posted on 02/15/2012 4:14:32 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Abathar

Gotta love the Tea Party, only they would go after the Lugar bastard on something like that.

As to Daniels, forget it...he’s all Establishment, which means all Lugar. We know here in Texas, as his (Daniels’) ‘brother’ is our Governor.


26 posted on 02/15/2012 8:10:48 PM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: muawiyah

In Indiana a ruling by an attorney general said Lugar could reside in D.C. and still Use his original address which is rediculous as he hasn’t lived there for thirty years.
So some old butt boy gives this old fool a homer ruling and it is ok?


27 posted on 02/16/2012 3:31:07 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: muawiyah
"You might take a real good look at Indiana laws first ~ in these residency cases folks usually run off half cocked before bothering to find out what the code says and what the courts have ruled."

So? Do you think that even 50% of the voters care about that? All most people need to hear is that he was using an address that hasn't been his since the 70's, and whether its legal or not it will matter in the voting booth. I think they pulled this out too soon actually, had it been made a big deal of a few days before the primary, legal or not, it could have sunk him.

28 posted on 02/16/2012 5:13:58 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar
99% of the voters know the US Senate is in Washington DC, not Indianapolis.

They don't care ~ and fur shur the folks deciding who can run for office in Indiana DO, so he'll be on the ballot.

Wexler was a different case. The guy was a mad man, not just senile. There are a whole host of interests in Indiana who make a lot of money off the senator's seniority ~ and his staff are busy taking care of those folks.

Are you guys nuts? Nobody gives up a senior senator ~ until he dies.

29 posted on 02/16/2012 7:04:22 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Joe Boucher
Sure! The Senate rules provide for this as well. Read your Constitution.

I think your problem is you believe a Senator should be popularly elected. I, on the other hand, think we should return to the system where the State Legislature choses the Senator.

This system has failed!

30 posted on 02/16/2012 7:06:46 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I have read the constitution thanks
Personally I think we should go back to where only land owners have the vote


31 posted on 02/16/2012 7:13:10 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: BobL
Daniels, in general, is quite an effective Conservative. All the Tea Party ever got on him is what they failed to recognize as slips of the tongue that hadn't gone through the copy editors first.

Reminds me of that election in 2010. There we had our greatest electoral victory in history ~ stripping Democrats out of Congress left and right, exterminating that party in numerous state legislature, tossing them from just about every office they held that was up for election ~ and the first thing on the TEA Party collective mind was TO FIRE THE GUYS WHO PRESIDED OVER THE VICTORY.

I tell you, it just ain't right when people don't know how to be winners. I was supporting them on just about everything until we got up to the point where they decided that WINNING IS NOT ENOUGH ~ but of course, WINNING IS EVERYTHING IN POLITICS.

You can't do the job and carry the flag if you aren't in the game. It's better to be in the game than not in it. It's better to win than not win. It's a hard job being a winner and having a winner's mind.

Now you got some people running the Republican party at the top who don't know how to be winners. We had some 10 people who were willing to run for President and pay the filing fees with the party. If they'd been Democrats their party machine would have gone to work going out and making sure ALL of them also met State Primary and Caucus requirements so they could be on those ballots.

Such activity by the party is coincident with the idea that in politics ALL news is good news unless it's about how stupid you are.

So, your TEA Party top dogs here in Virginia didn't like anybody but Romney!

Gad!

The only two we get to vote for are Romney and Paul.

DOUBLE GAD!!!! HAIRBALL PFFFT PFFT SPIT UPCHUCK!!!!

I think you lost my attention way back there when you took away my vote!

Cheating me out of my civil rights is a politically terminal crime.

32 posted on 02/16/2012 7:16:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Joe Boucher
There you go again ~ that's PRE Indiana's and Virginia's constitutions ~ that makes you a ROYALIST!

I don't cotton to Royalists ~

33 posted on 02/16/2012 7:18:23 AM PST by muawiyah
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