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Police in Arizona Shoot Man Holding 9-Month Old Baby
Salem News ^ | Feb 16, 2012 | Tim King Salem

Posted on 02/17/2012 10:09:38 AM PST by An American!

(SCOTTSDALE, AZ) - An unarmed Arizona grandfather was blasted in the head this week by a police officer who killed the man because he "thought" he had a weapon. This was the particular officer's sixth fatal shooting in the line of duty, it happened Tuesday night in Scottsdale, "There were at least three officers in position to engage the suspect. At least one of the officers thought he saw something in the suspect's hands," Scottsdale Police Sgt. Mark Clark told Arizona's KPNX.

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Loxas was standing outside of his home with his grandchild still in his arms when Officer James Peters fired one shot to the head, killing the suspect.

Officer Peters, who fired the fatal shot, has been involved in seven shootings over the past decade. Six of those have been fatal, and all have been ruled justified.

One trigger happy cop!

1 posted on 02/17/2012 10:09:47 AM PST by An American!
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To: An American!

wow what a tragedy. How does a cop with 6 fatal shootings on his jacket stay on the streets???


2 posted on 02/17/2012 10:11:53 AM PST by eak3
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To: An American!
BANG!
Ex-police! Freeze!
3 posted on 02/17/2012 10:12:17 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: An American!
This was the particular officer's sixth fatal shooting

"Marshall Cogburn, how many men have you shot?"
"Shot? Or killed?"
"Let us restrict ourselves to 'killed' so that we may have a manageable figure ..."

4 posted on 02/17/2012 10:12:24 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I am pro-Jesus, anti-abortion, pro-limited government, anti-GOP.)
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To: An American!

All a cop has to do is say, “I thought I saw a gun.” and he’s home free.

Geez.


5 posted on 02/17/2012 10:12:24 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: An American!

Surely this cop will get sentenced to the electric chair for this horrendous crime...............

I don’t care who you are, you can’t just shoot an unarmed man holding an infant—at least that used to be against the law-—these days, who knows?


6 posted on 02/17/2012 10:13:27 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: An American!

I would never call the police for any help these days. It’s too hazardous.


7 posted on 02/17/2012 10:14:53 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: An American!

The cop used to be on the SWAT team.

The man holding the baby was reaching for a gun.

What would you do?


8 posted on 02/17/2012 10:17:00 AM PST by donna (I want to live in a Judeo/Christian country where we know that, before God, men & women are equal.)
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To: An American!
According to local reports, 50-year old John Loxas had his 9-month old grandchild in his arms as he walked around his neighborhood, apparently making threats toward 'neighbors and police'.

However the man was outside of his own home with the child, when he was shot through the head by a Scottsdale officer named James Peters. Mr. Loax was killed immediately, and it is reported that Peters was not confronting the man, instead he used a scope and fired from a distance.

Neighbors are questioning this police officer's actions.

No, not a trigger happy cop ... Sounds like a cold-blooded serial murderer who hides behind a badge.

9 posted on 02/17/2012 10:17:00 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: ZX12R

Only call ‘em for clean up.

If you’ve got real work, do it yourself.


10 posted on 02/17/2012 10:18:03 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: donna

Lie that I thought he was reaching for a gun.


11 posted on 02/17/2012 10:21:50 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: Jonty30
All a cop has to do is say, “I thought I saw a gun.” and he’s home free.

“I thought I saw a gun.” "One stroke of a pen". That's what this once great country has become.

12 posted on 02/17/2012 10:22:03 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your electionAll a cop has to do is say, “I thought I saw)
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To: donna
The man holding the baby was reaching for a gun.

From the article:

"Detectives found no weapon on Loxas following the shooting."

What would I do? Send the serial murderer to prison for life.

13 posted on 02/17/2012 10:22:18 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: basil

How’s the family dog?


14 posted on 02/17/2012 10:22:32 AM PST by pingman (Durn tootin'; I like Glock shootin'!)
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To: An American!

Anybody else find this article to be amateurishly written? Odd phrasing and editorializing.


15 posted on 02/17/2012 10:25:42 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: basil
you can’t just shoot an unarmed man holding an infant—at least that used to be against the law-—

Rules of engagement for infants were changed at Ruby Ridge.

16 posted on 02/17/2012 10:31:24 AM PST by GingisK
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To: donna
You shoot a cop holding a baby and claim he was going for his gun. What happens to you?

17 posted on 02/17/2012 10:31:35 AM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: An American!
Scottsdale Police told reporters that the nine-month old baby was not injured in the shooting

Of course. When his granddad was shot in the head he looked around, walked up to a stroller, and put the child into it. Only then he collapsed and died. That's what the police says; must be the truth then.

18 posted on 02/17/2012 10:32:07 AM PST by Greysard
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Yes. Like this ...
"Peters first killed a suspect in 2002, as a member of a SWAT team. This was the one non-fatal shooting he was involved in."
How do you kill a suspect in a "non-fatal" shooting?
19 posted on 02/17/2012 10:34:07 AM PST by jimmango
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To: G Larry

The cop was looking thru a scope at 15 yards. How could he see his hands if he’s sighted on the VICTIMS head


20 posted on 02/17/2012 10:34:25 AM PST by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: An American!

I will reserve judgment until more details are available.

The article indicated he was a member of the SWAT team on one of the shootings, and doesn’t say he no longer is.

Also, the article says that “at least one of the 3 officers” thought the man had a gun, but does not specifically say it was Peters.

Given those facts, it is possible that it was another cop who thought he saw a gun and Peters was ordered to shoot.


21 posted on 02/17/2012 10:37:05 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: An American!

According to local reports, 50-year old John Loxas had his 9-month old grandchild in his arms as he walked around his neighborhood, apparently making threats toward ‘neighbors and police’


22 posted on 02/17/2012 10:38:01 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: clamper1797

Did you notice that I was whacking the guy in Post #8, who was defending the shooting?


23 posted on 02/17/2012 10:40:56 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: An American!

WHO was the sweetheart of a guy he SHOT?,....


24 posted on 02/17/2012 10:40:56 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: riverrunner

It took only 22 posts to get that out.


25 posted on 02/17/2012 10:42:33 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: G Larry

Yes I did


26 posted on 02/17/2012 10:44:35 AM PST by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: donna

The article stated the cop “thought” the grandfather had a gun.
You said,”The man holding the baby was reaching for a gun.”
This was no where to be found in the article.
From your comments it seems you side with a murderous trigger happy LEO.
I find that disturbing.


27 posted on 02/17/2012 10:44:47 AM PST by hwkbeer
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To: An American!

I am disappointed on the posts I am seeing. I have read several other much more compete and less biased reports on this particular incident.

What was not mentioned here is that the guy who was shot was blind stinking drunk and had a revolver that he pointed at his neighbors and threatened to shoot them. They were cleaning up the garbage can that the drunk kicked into the street earlier and told them they were unhappy about that. That is why the police were called. In addition, there was a history of violence with the guy who was shot. There was also a loaded handgun and loaded shotgun just inside the door that he was going back in through.

I would rather have him dead than holding a baby and the loaded handgun (and shotgun) that they found just inside the door and later using the kid as a hostage.

And, NO, I am not a “police can do no wrong” kind of person. In this case I am not joining the call for this officers head. But go ahead and join the chorus based on a very biased news story if you want to.


28 posted on 02/17/2012 10:46:00 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: donna

You’ll make a great agent at the Ministry of Truth.


29 posted on 02/17/2012 10:47:08 AM PST by EEGator
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To: An American!

Wow, the lefties read these edited stories and come running out from under their rocks to scream about the bad cop. Meanwhile, back in the real world...

According to the 911 call, the neighbors said Loxas was pushing his 9-month-old grandsonin a stroller and walked over and kicked a neighbor’s trash can into the street. When another neighbor went to pick it up, Loxas returned with the baby in his arms and started yelling, “You got a problem with that?” the caller tells the dispatcher. “The guy pulls out a gun, cocks it and aimed it at him.”

A search warrant recovered a loaded pistol “a few feet from where the suspect fell inside the residence,” Clark said. “It was wedged between the arm and cushion of a chair a few feet away from where he fell.” It is the same pistol believed to have been used to threaten neighbors, he said. A loaded shotgun also was found near a chair a few feet from the pistol, Clark said. In addition, police found at least eight “Airsoft” type rifles and pistols, as well as “a functional improvised explosive device,” he said.

Nice shooting, officer. Thank you for putting this dangerous scumbag down like the rabid dog that he was. I’m sure the neighbors are relieved to have this deadly threat removed from their neighborhood at last.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/2012/02/15/20120215shooting-seventh-scottsdale-police-officer.html


30 posted on 02/17/2012 10:48:35 AM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: jim_trent

thanks Jim...


31 posted on 02/17/2012 10:49:19 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Tarantulas

Oh, and by the way:

“In 2010, Scottsdale police were called to the house because Loxas was threatening neighbors with a pistol, police said. He has been arrested at least once, police said. The 911 caller told the dispatcher that this wasn’t the first time that Loxas had pointed a gun at neighbors.”


32 posted on 02/17/2012 10:50:04 AM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: jim_trent
Would you link the other accounts you referenced so that fellow freepers can be enlightened to form better opinions?
33 posted on 02/17/2012 10:51:01 AM PST by hwkbeer
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To: Hodar

>>>No, not a trigger happy cop ... Sounds like a cold-blooded serial murderer who hides behind a badge.
<<<

Possibly. Or possibly, a cop, who as one of the best shots on the force, was assigned the role of sniper, to, if necessary, take out the man making the threats, without harming the baby (as he had done in a prior hostage situation, earning a medal). It is entirely possible that a different officer thought he saw a gun and ordered Peters to shoot.

The reporter obviously has an agenda and is obviously an idiot, as he described how in 2002 the officer killed a man in his only NON-fatal shooting? Huh?

The officer might be a murderer, trigger happy, or an outstanding professional, who efficiently executed an order from another officer, that turned out to be a tragically bad one.

I say wait until the details come out before we decide.

Funny how the reporter says the officer has a “shoot first ask questions later” attitude, when that seems to be his style of reporting. Why wait for the facts? Let’s just assume the officer is evil and crucify him.


34 posted on 02/17/2012 10:51:01 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: An American!

Can you remember the last time you saw a cop smile and say Hello??For me it must be about 55 years ago when I was 10.Now all you see are Rambos with mean looks on their face and Terminator sunglasses.


35 posted on 02/17/2012 10:51:36 AM PST by Renegade
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To: donna
The man holding the baby was reaching for a gun.

Other reports are saying he had no gun, there were guns in his home.

36 posted on 02/17/2012 10:52:34 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Anybody else find this article to be amateurishly written? Odd phrasing and editorializing.

Yes. Terrible reporting, terribly written. All of it. The victim is identified alternatively as Mr. Roxas, Mr. Rozas and Mr. Roax! Did you catch "writer, editor" Mr. King's glamour shot and lengthy, award-rich bio at the end of the report?

37 posted on 02/17/2012 10:52:50 AM PST by fullchroma
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To: An American!

Sounds as though the child was being held hostage or used as a human shield, or that was the LEOs’ perception of the situation. The child is safe, so I’ll withhold opinion until I get more info.


38 posted on 02/17/2012 11:01:11 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: GingisK

Well—there is that........


39 posted on 02/17/2012 11:02:09 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: pingman

Uh, my dogs are just fine—thanks for asking.....


40 posted on 02/17/2012 11:04:48 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: G Larry

Why is it a lie? The cops were there because the man was carrying a gun and a baby. The danger that he would go for his gun again is logical.

If the baby had died, people would call the cop a coward.


41 posted on 02/17/2012 11:08:17 AM PST by donna (I want to live in a Judeo/Christian country where we know that, before God, men & women are equal.)
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To: Renegade
Can you remember the last time you saw a cop smile and say Hello??

Yesterday, twice; once in the car at a stop light, once while running on the boardwalk.

42 posted on 02/17/2012 11:09:00 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: fullchroma

I’ll bet Mr. King won’t publish my comments. Most of the articles on their home page have no comments. I wonder why.


43 posted on 02/17/2012 11:09:30 AM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: JimRed

I don’t withhold anymore. The cops have adopted an obscene paradigm that is 180 degrees out of phase with Mayberry. Imagine a private citizen engaging another private citizen in the same way that cops do indiscriminately. A cop has no more right to initiate lethal force than I do. I suspect that if a neighbor had taken similar action because he “thought” the baby was in danger and he “believed” that the perp had a gun he would be arrested, tried, and convicted. Cops are using deadly force more and more even if the justification is threadbare.


44 posted on 02/17/2012 11:10:09 AM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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To: basil

Lon Horiuchi is still walking the streets.


45 posted on 02/17/2012 11:10:44 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

“No, not a trigger happy cop ... Sounds like a cold-blooded serial murderer who hides behind a badge.”

There is entirely too much of this use of firearms by the cops seemingly without justification. My take on it is if it is not stopped, we will start to see vigilante justice come back with the citizens killing the offending officers.


46 posted on 02/17/2012 11:12:54 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Tarantulas
Nice shooting, officer. Thank you for putting this dangerous scumbag down like the rabid dog that he was. I’m sure the neighbors are relieved to have this deadly threat removed from their neighborhood at last.

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47 posted on 02/17/2012 11:13:38 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Renegade

“Can you remember the last time you saw a cop smile and say Hello??”

Yes I can, About 2 hours ago at a 7-11. He even held the door open for me.

I’d be courious to know when was the last time YOU smiled and said hello to a cop?


48 posted on 02/17/2012 11:17:37 AM PST by Gettin Betta
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To: jim_trent
What was not mentioned here is that the guy who was shot was blind stinking drunk and had a revolver that he pointed at his neighbors and threatened to shoot them.

How do you square that with "Detectives found no weapon on Loxas following the shooting" ?

49 posted on 02/17/2012 11:21:07 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: hwkbeer

A second officer said Loxas was holding something that could be considered a weapon.

“There’s a lot of factors that go into the decision to shoot — certainly the presence of a weapon is one of the, or the perceived presence of a weapon,” said Clark.

A loaded pistol, shotgun and improvised explosive device were found inside the home, police said.

The device contained black powder and ball bearings and was safely diffused by police.
http://www.ktar.com/6/1502143/Officer-who-killed-man-involved-in-six-fatal-shootings


50 posted on 02/17/2012 11:22:23 AM PST by donna (I want to live in a Judeo/Christian country where we know that, before God, men & women are equal.)
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