Skip to comments.Being a pill about the pill? Santorum vs US views
Posted on 02/17/2012 1:04:39 PM PST by Mariner
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Most Americans don't share Rick Santorum's absolutist take on abortion. He's out of step on women in combat. He questions the values of the two-thirds of mothers who work. He's even troubled by something as commonplace as birth control - for married couples.
Even among a Republican presidential field eager to please religious conservatives, Santorum's ideas stand out.
A Catholic father of seven whose kids are home-schooled, Santorum may seem to wear his conservatism as comfortably as his sweater vests. But he's walked a careful path, keeping the more provocative opinions that helped sink his re-election to the Senate in 2006 mostly out of his presidential campaign.
That is until he leaped to the top of the polls, alongside Mitt Romney.
Now Santorum's record on social issues is getting a closer look. On several matters, he's outside the Republican mainstream. And if he becomes the GOP nominee, some of his ideas would probably be surprising, even puzzling, to general election voters.
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You clearly don't know much about the evangelical vote.
And I think Santorum would lose some GOP women and lose Independents by at least 3-1.
His repeated victories in Pennsylvania suggest otherwise, but then, seeing as you don't offer data, much less a rationale, go for it. Expect tomatoes.
All have voted a straight GOP ticket for at least 20 years. All Baptized, Confirmed Catholics.
All pro life.
All unanimous they will not vote for Santorum. All would vote for Newt or Romney. None for Paul.
If it comes down to Santorum/Obama, they will write in Palin.
Contraception is their red line in the sand. When I try to explain that Santorum has not said he would make any attempt to restrict access all I get is "It doesn't matter".
This is NOT a statistically valid sample of GOP women:)
Do you have something against apostrophes? I’m talking about if he gets the nomination. He can’t win the general.
Well yes Hilly, as you correctly point out, he is not President, he is however a candidate for the republican party nomination to run for the Presidency. I hope that clears it up for you.
I know it is confusing when we are angry or fearful, have a cup of tea, that seems to help. You should relax though Judge Bork, "The man who would invade our bedrooms" never got confirmed. Then again, I don't think it was republicans that derailed that appointment. Dang, life can be so uncertain.
Wow, just when I was beginning to warm up to you, you go and jump off a cliff. If you don't see the danger there, then you should be over in the Ron Paul threads.
Unless of course you are just doing your job.
He is the best of the GOP candidates
Wow Hildy, you seem to have recruited the Anti Palin crowd, but nothing but the best, right?
The people who will decide the general election are voting for Prom King. They don't know anything about law, government or the constitution.
They will vote for whom they "like".
Probably he was influenced by the fact that you have been posting dozens of attacks on Santorum on just about every primary thread.
It’s more productive to speak positively about the candidate you support. It just annoys people when you go around attacking the candidates they happen to favor.
Just my own personal piece of hell lol
But I don't think questioning a good man's electability is necessarily an attack. I think Santorum would make a damn fine President but I don't think he could beat Obama.
I think either Gingrich or Romney could.
And I despise Romney.
I also believe that if we end up with nobody in the primary than Santorum and Romney that Romney would likely win.
Whether other folk agree is their business and I'll respect them for that. I'm trying to get folks to see what I see...even if I AM delusional.
No man is a prophet in his own home I guess, but few here are acceptable prophets either.
I have seen more XXXXXXX for president, Woo, Woo, this year than ever before, only to shortly see @$#$@#%&& XXXXXXX is a RINO loser, then we move on to the next Woo Woo. Now having only three wow, woo's left, they will soon have their status upgraded, because after running through a litany of winners, we will finally have our one and only XXXXXXX Woo, Woo for President, and everyone will deem that they were for XXXXXX all along. See how easy it is to become a prophet, just wait until the race is over much easier when you know the outcome.
As will I. Sometimes we lose, sometimes we win, but we have to live or die by the result, I am willing to do either, are you?
Actually that die part was just hokum because at 73 I really don't matter anymore.
How else you gonna prop up your deadbeat candidate?
Birth control, just like abortion will remain open issues. But let us be perfectly clear, they will not be federally funded, compensated or supported in any way.
Women do not belong in military combat. Some do physically and mentally qualify but it distracts from the mission at hand.
For the continuity of the family unit, moms should stay home with the kids. She is the cohesive unit in helping teach and keep its values. Without at-home loving mothers the family suffers. This fallen world needs her shelter.
I applaud Ricks values.
I see him picking up 73.9% of the women's vote in a general election.
The AP would be happy if we could convert this into a dialog about whether this is about the pill. They would be the winner.
This is not about contraception. The White House would like you to think it is, but it is about politics. Obama is about to require each and every one of us, no matter what we believe, to provide abortion pills to girls who do not realize at the time what they are doing, a pill that will terminate a life. That is a serious trangression, done without thought. Go ahead, full steam ahead AP!
Too late. That ship sailed years ago. "Women in combat" is a natural consequence, not a cause, of the deterioration of the traditional virtues.
These two “reporters” are apparently very ignorant, as Rick Santorum has no legal qualms with contraception, and no problem with funding it either.
If they want to whine, they should whine about the Catholic Church. Santorum is a Catholic, and unlike a lot of Catholics (apparently) he actually follows his church’s teaching in his personal life.
I disagree with the Catholic church on the subject, and have no problems with birtch control, but Santorum doesn’t bother me at all.
As a practical matter, if 99% of the women take birth control, it’s hardly an “insurance” matter — because the insurance companies will essentially have to raise the cost of ever womans’ health insurance by exactly the cost of those pills, in order to provide them.
You might as well offer gasoline insurance for your car.
Carry if you think sizable numbers of women would vote this way, you have a pretty jaundiced view of American women.