Posted on 02/18/2012 4:23:55 PM PST by Mariner
(Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum challenged President Barack Obama's Christian beliefs on Saturday, saying White House policies were motivated by a "different theology."
A devout Roman Catholic who has risen to the top of Republican polls in recent days, Santorum said the Obama administration had failed to prevent gas prices rising and was using "political science" in the debate about climate change.
Obama's agenda is "not about you. It's not about your quality of life. It's not about your jobs. It's about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. Oh, not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology," Santorum told supporters of the conservative Tea Party movement at a Columbus hotel.
When asked about the statement at a news conference later, Santorum said, "If the president says he's a Christian, he's a Christian."
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
Marxists are atheists-—and Marxism is proven to be evil—by the Pope’s encyclical and by Common Sense. You can never treat human beings as an object—as a means to an end. It is EVIL on both Theological and Ethical grounds.
Sodomy is embraced (and probably practiced by zero) and it is evil by the very nihilism of the act and the lust and narcissism and idolatry embedded in such disgusting acts which removes human dignity.
Bible condemns it—as it does forcefully taking property from people and redistributing it. Government force is evil when it promotes sloth, envy, and forces children to learn about sex acts which are not even normal. It corrupts their innocence and destroys the “awe and mystery” which gives life “Joy”.
Try decaf.
GO NEWT GO—it’s about the survival of our country, not Sunday school.
I don’t care about his religion or morality right now. If that is all he can run on then he needs to move over and get out of the way. This nation is facing crisis upon crisis and he wants to tell America how to practice birth control, what a great husband and father he is, how religious he is, blah blah, blah. The man might be a good guy but he is way over his head in this campaign.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Do you read the articles you post or only the headline you've been searching for to trash a candidate with?
In the article Santorum says that if Obama says he's a Christian, He's a Christian. However he policy are counter to Christian teaching and destructive to religious liberties. Obama can call them what he wants but Santorum is not going to call them Christian just to appease?
Well being a southern Baptist, you must be familiar with who A.F.R. talk radio prefers, as they are associated with Southern Baptists. Who do you think that would be?
You darn right I did. That's a valid political critique.
You still have not cited an example of me attacking his religious convictions.
Instead you are inventing meanings in your head in order to smear other Freepers.
The idea that our rights come from our Creator are outlined in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence. There is no need to give the Democrats the “Republicans don't believe in the Separation of Church and State” mantra to carry into the General Election. Just because we know it isn't true doesn't mean a majority of the Country believes it is outlined in the Founding Documents.
Although Rick is correct about Obama, he is coming off as a Preacher, not a Candidate for President. We know what he means, but the average Voter only knows the Media interpretation of what he said.
We have people of all Faiths in this Country and they all get to Vote. Any idea that our Candidate is favoring the Beliefs of one group over another can only alienate (and I hate that PC word) the same people we need to secure the Votes required to unseat Pharaoh Obama. Or I'm completely wrong and people love hearing one of our Candidates saying the President has no Christian Values. True or not, perception rules the day.
Yeah, so sad for you that he is probably going to win it. Then you can go vote for the Constitution Party or whatever.
I support Santorum because I believe he is the right conservative at the right time. I support him because he can win. I support him because he has and will continue to fight for smaller government in addition to lower taxes.
And again...it's now up to you to prove this straw man...
Name me ONE GOP candidate in ANY race (POTUS, Congressional, dog-catcher)...
...in 2012...
...2010...
...2008..
...go back a ways every two years...
...to the 1850s if you want...
...who has put these theological values & "issues at the FOREFRONT, EVERY DAY" in their campaign.
Go on.
Tell us.
Just one GOP candidate...ANY race, ANY time.
We're waiting.
Dig.
Dig deep.
Oh, and if you can't find us...
...even one GOP candidate who's done this...
Why in the world are you raising this as some big concern???
Where's either the overall GOP (or Santorum) pattern/track record...to make this ONE comment an issue for you?
(You see...you're beginning to sound like the liberal MSM that wants to keep theology hermetically sealed from politics!)
ALL: This is a classic case of a straw man presentation.
In fact, you won't find a better example on FR of a straw man raised than this low tactic by a Santorum critic.
So...#1...by all means question Santorum on the merits of his comments (post #11 indicates you don't want to do that: "I’m not saying Santorum is inaccurate in his characterization of Obama."
Therefore, #2, may I suggest that Santorum has other more worthy issues to question him on -- versus trying to pretend or falsely inject that Santorum has a daily forefront drumbeat on these Biblical values' matters?
on the right track and with Newt's proposed policies, experience and good common sense solutions we will be able to get Obama’s
wrongs undone on day 1.
I’m with you there. Romney is the only unelectable we have on the ticket at this point.
Your slap at Apollo notwithstanding you appear to have stumbled over the central truth about these fiascoes of Santorum's: The leftist media will indeed and relentlessly "make it look like that is all he running on." You may rant and rage that that is not fair of the media, but guess what--they don't care what you think, they don't even care about the truth.
Every time Santorum heaves up one if these ponderous cultural/religious profundities, he gives the media a whole new carload of ammunition to deceive and distract the public opinion. As another observed above, he validates their efforts to make us all look like intolerant kooks and extremists.
In the end, he may even be right about his views, and he will have an abundance of time to refine them to himself after November. Maybe write another book because he won't have a real job-- but we will have four more years of obama to suffer through, and all this will have been for nought.
Have you even read his web page?
To be honest, I would be completely okay with statements like these... if Saint Rick’s campaign wasn’t already revolving around religious/social statements. And not even social or religious issues that are worth talking about. It’s just a meaningless ploy to demonstrate how good of a character he has. That’s why he does it. He just doesn’t realize that we’re looking for a President, not a Priest whose economic platform is utterly dull (besides Mitt Romney’s).
I want someone who is going to tackle social security. I want someone who is going to tackle entitlements. The courts. The tax code.
Rekindling the debate about gay marriage and making that a significant issue... really doesn’t do anything for any of that. It’s just a distraction to the fact that he doesn’t offer much at all.
Obama wants to hand out free condoms and you are making slurs against Santorum about birth control.
Nice try. But I’m not buying it.
He has never been fully vetted. Hello.
He is getting a wave from the non Romney vote.
Part of the base isn't supporting him. Hello. Women voters will turn out to vote against him. Head to desk.
And many of those will be Republican women.
Who was it that made these issues to be a campaign issue for the 2012 Presidential elections? battling RINOS and Zero on his weakeness should be the priority.
What did Reagan do? He gave these issues lip service. Now we put the focus these issues and our own instead of oBozo.
George Bush tried that his second term. How well you think that worked out?
And btw, last time I tried, I couldn't talk back to my TV set or my radio and get anyone to hear me-- so your retort is fine for a thought but don't try to actually ever get to tell these media whores anything. They will never know or care what we think about their behavior.
Look: the issue is not Santorum's religious views. The issue is, we're in a war with election as the objective. The enemy will lie cheat and distort anything they can to make a hash of our candidate. Every second he spends on this stuff is a second that Obama's record goes unquestioned.
Every observer has said the key to winning is to make the election a referendum on Obama--but Santorum is rapidly building a scenario where the election is a referendum on HIM. And that's a political Hindenburg waiting to ignite.
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