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Google tricks Internet Explorer, foils privacy settings, Microsoft says
foxnews.com ^ | 2-20-12

Posted on 02/21/2012 6:08:37 AM PST by rawhide

Google has secretly been bypassing your privacy settings in Internet Explorer, Microsoft claimed Monday afternoon.

The startling accusation came in a blog post Monday by Dean Hachamovitch, Microsoft’s corporate vice president for Internet Explorer. On Friday, a Wall Street Journal investigation revealed that the search and advertising giant was bypassing the privacy settings of millions of people using Apple Safari browsers on iPhones and desktop computers.

“When the IE team heard that Google had bypassed user privacy settings on Safari, we asked ourselves a simple question: is Google circumventing the privacy preferences of Internet Explorer users too?” Hachamovitch wrote.

“We’ve discovered the answer is yes: Google is employing similar methods to get around the default privacy protections in IE and track IE users with cookies."

... Google responded to Microsoft's accusations with a statement saying that the Windows giant "omitted important information from its blog post," noting that Microsoft's “self-declaration” protocol under which Microsoft asks "websites to represent their privacy practices in machine-readable form" is impractical to comply with -- and stating that the policy is widely non-operational.

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1 posted on 02/21/2012 6:08:42 AM PST by rawhide
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To: rawhide

A lawsuit will come of this sometime I am sure


2 posted on 02/21/2012 6:11:22 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: rawhide

Google is evil. I wonder how much in taxes this Obama-supporting corporation actually pays.


3 posted on 02/21/2012 6:11:46 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; stylin_geek; ...

4 posted on 02/21/2012 6:12:57 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: rawhide

Ok, so what’s the current best alternative to Google?


6 posted on 02/21/2012 6:14:53 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: rawhide

When will people come to their senses and avoid Google and MS?


7 posted on 02/21/2012 6:15:27 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: rawhide

Which means they are also doing it with Firefox


8 posted on 02/21/2012 6:16:18 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 1rudeboy
ixquick
9 posted on 02/21/2012 6:16:57 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: rawhide
Anyone surprised by this needs to remove their rose-colored glasses. Google isn't your friend. They're not your next door neighbor just wanting to help. They're not even just a corportation wanting to make a good profit. They have an agenda and that agenda doesn't include respecting your wishes.
10 posted on 02/21/2012 6:17:59 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: rawhide
Anyone surprised by this needs to remove their rose-colored glasses. Google isn't your friend. They're not your next door neighbor just wanting to help. They're not even just a corporation wanting to make a good profit. They have an agenda and that agenda doesn't include respecting your wishes.
11 posted on 02/21/2012 6:18:09 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: ReformationFan

But they’re buying Yahoo, and Bing has its own problems.

What we need is a true Conservative search engine.


12 posted on 02/21/2012 6:18:16 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: driftdiver

Yep, unless you’ve installed an add-on to remove them.


13 posted on 02/21/2012 6:23:26 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

My bet is that somehow someway Goggle and the Rat Party are using the stolen information to formulate strategy.


14 posted on 02/21/2012 6:24:54 AM PST by DAC21
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To: rawhide

If Google’s best rationale is that “because Microsoft code is buggy, Google had the right to change that code’s operation to thwart Microsoft’s programmed security”, Google just screwed the pooch!

What an eight-figure pie for Apple and their “friends” over in Redmond to divide!

HF


15 posted on 02/21/2012 6:38:58 AM PST by holden
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To: 1rudeboy

Bing for search. Hotmail for email. I avoid Google like the plague.


16 posted on 02/21/2012 6:41:13 AM PST by Astronaut
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To: ShadowAce; 1rudeboy

Dogpile (http://www.dogpile.com/) and Duck-Duck-Go (http://duckduckgo.com/) also claim they don’t track your activity. I’d really love to see a study of search effectiveness with these, as well as Bing and Yahoo, compared with Google.


17 posted on 02/21/2012 6:42:28 AM PST by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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To: rawhide

Meanwhile, Google complains back that it depends on what your definition of “evil” is.

Best advice, in Firefox.

Tools => Options => Privacy => Remove Individual Cookies => (remove any cookie subdirectory that begins with “Google”)

Do this every few days.

VERY IMPORTANT: Many top websites now use “flash cookies” that backup user data so it is not deleted when the browser deletes the normal cookie.

Users can delete Flash cookies by going to Adobe’s Flash Player settings manager website:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html

(You actually make the changes to your Flash player on your computer through their website. The image you see is a functional control panel, not just a picture.)


18 posted on 02/21/2012 6:48:19 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: rawhide

I came across something interesting that tracks with this article (pun intended).

There is an opt out provision in gmail to remove the ads that are part of your webpage and are specifically ‘tailored’ to match your interests as shown by your searches. If you click on the ‘opt out’ button, you are taken to a page that tells you [in effect] “OK Buster, you can opt out of the ads tailored to your interests and maintain some privacy—but then we’ll just put a whole lot more ads of every kind on your webpage so you better let us guide you.”

What a Hobson’s choice.


19 posted on 02/21/2012 6:52:01 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: 1rudeboy
bing isn't too bad. Their search results are good. Bing I don't know if they are any more conservative than google, but since Microsoft owns it and they are complaining about google abusing users privacy, it seems that Microsoft might be more protective of user privacy than screwgle.
20 posted on 02/21/2012 6:53:07 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Astronaut

I used to be a big google nut. Had the little google browser tool bar and everything. Not any more. Took me a while to locate all the google remnants on my machine and get rid of it. Probably still got some that snoopy google crap on my machine somewhere for all I know. I use Bing now. Bing is just as good as google. And I don’t plan on signing in to YouTube and posting comments there anymore either.

Google is like SkyNet from the movie Terminator. Evil.

FUG!


21 posted on 02/21/2012 6:56:52 AM PST by CaptainKrunch
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To: 1rudeboy

recently switched from Scroogle.org (it is down, possibly indefinately) to http://gibiru.com/

At this point I am unsure how secure it is, but like Scroogle it uses Google searches through a proxy.


22 posted on 02/21/2012 6:57:48 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: ShadowAce

Now that is a tagline of taglines.


23 posted on 02/21/2012 6:58:06 AM PST by 92nina
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To: FreeAtlanta

Microsoft provided a single-click fix for IE9 users to prevent google from doing this.
You can read the details, and get the link, at this sight.

Goodbye, Google and Adsense. Nice knowing you.

http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=202318


24 posted on 02/21/2012 6:59:06 AM PST by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

sight=site.


25 posted on 02/21/2012 7:00:00 AM PST by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Better Privacy plugin for Firefox will automatically remove the flash cookies after each session. I have been very happy with it.


26 posted on 02/21/2012 7:01:22 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: rawhide

bfl


27 posted on 02/21/2012 7:12:12 AM PST by gibsosa
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To: rawhide

Google and FB are here as tools of the .gov
imho


28 posted on 02/21/2012 7:23:58 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao << >> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

I don’t think it helps much with privacy, but I use ABP “Ad Blocker Plus” add on for Firefox.

It blocks a ton of ads including flash ads. I finally got tired of all the flashing and sound, and put this on about a year ago. I feel a little guilty, because I know a lot of sites depend on ad revenue to support content delivery, but I am advertising saturated.


29 posted on 02/21/2012 7:42:58 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Texas Fossil

I recently installed a free 3rd party add-on for FF and IE9 called DoNotTrackPlus from

http://www.abine.com

It seems to work and has options that can be set for various websites.


30 posted on 02/21/2012 7:53:11 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

Thanks, I will look at it.


31 posted on 02/21/2012 7:58:59 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: FourPeas
Yep, unless you’ve installed an add-on to remove them.

To remove what?

32 posted on 02/21/2012 8:00:16 AM PST by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: rawhide
Google tricks Internet Explorer, foils privacy settings, Microsoft says

Microsoft: Build your browser so Google CAN'T circumvent settings chosen by the users. You know, your customers. D'oh!

33 posted on 02/21/2012 8:06:08 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Users are not their customers.


34 posted on 02/21/2012 8:08:47 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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35 posted on 02/21/2012 8:15:36 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Darth Reardon

the tracking cookies Google’s using


36 posted on 02/21/2012 8:19:41 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: ShadowAce

They’re supposed to be. Anything else is corruption on their part for which there is no valid excuse.


37 posted on 02/21/2012 8:22:05 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

If you didn’t pay for the browser you aren’t the customer. The customers for IE are developers, MS pushes their browser to be #1 so everybody who wants to make a web app needs to make it work on IE so they have to buy the MS dev studio. Developers buying the studio pays for you to be able to use IE. No corruption, just paying attention to the flow of money.


38 posted on 02/21/2012 8:26:38 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: Still Thinking
Nope. IE is a free product. Users are the product.

Advertisers are the customers.

Just like Google.

39 posted on 02/21/2012 8:27:23 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: 1rudeboy

Bing, yahoo also I think...I have been using Bing since it came out....


40 posted on 02/21/2012 8:56:05 AM PST by goat granny
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To: FourPeas

Ah, I think I get it. I let very few sites use cookies, without the need for any special addons, but it looks like there are addons for people who want to allow most cookies, but not certain types.


41 posted on 02/21/2012 9:07:18 AM PST by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: 1rudeboy
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42 posted on 02/21/2012 9:08:32 AM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Thanks. I cleaned out a bunch.


43 posted on 02/21/2012 9:34:28 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Darth Reardon

As was pointed out up-thread, don’t forget about the flash cookies. Firefox add-on Better Privacy does a good job of nuking these, imho.


44 posted on 02/21/2012 9:54:09 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: ReformationFan
Google is evil. I wonder how much in taxes this Obama-supporting corporation actually pays.

Google pays 2.4% in taxes. Taxes are for little people.

45 posted on 02/21/2012 10:08:41 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

“Google pays 2.4% in taxes. Taxes are for little people.”

Why is Google’s tax rate so high? With all the pro-Obama and pro-left wing support coming from them it should be 0% like GE’s.


46 posted on 02/21/2012 10:43:29 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“What we need is a true Conservative search engine.”

If you ever discover one, please let the rest of us know.

I’ve started using this one:

http://duckduckgo.com/

It supposedly doesn’t collect and share personal information:

http://duckduckgo.com/privacy.html


47 posted on 02/21/2012 12:00:41 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: FourPeas

Thanks for the heads up. Looks like I’m immune to them since I’ve never installed Flash.


48 posted on 02/21/2012 12:20:03 PM PST by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: ReformationFan

Interesting that Google’s money pump ends where Obama’s campaign contributions start... in Bermuda.


49 posted on 02/21/2012 12:26:27 PM PST by willyd (your credibility deficit is screwing up my bs meter...)
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To: ShadowAce

“When will people come to their senses and avoid Google and MS?”

As soon a Linux gets some functionality with the rest of the (unfortunately) MS speaking world.

Linux users remind me of Esperanto advocates. May be a great idea, but not that useful for non-Linux geeks.

MS is like the English language. Lots of well documented problems, but it is the best thing for getting around & communicating around the world.


50 posted on 02/21/2012 12:57:17 PM PST by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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