Skip to comments.Ultrasounds Already Part of VA Planned Parenthood Abortion Procedure (PP "rapes" women...)
Posted on 02/22/2012 10:14:02 AM PST by Qbert
The backlash against the new Virginia legislation requiring ultrasounds before an abortion procedure which some have bizarrely compared to forcible rape may be even more overblown than initially thought. Apparently, ultrasounds are already part of the abortion procedures at Virginia Planned Parenthoods.
The Virginia League for Planned Parenthood didnt immediately return calls yesterday. But heres what it said on the recording for its abortion services information hotline:
Patients who have a surgical abortion generally come in for two appointments. At the first visit we do a health assessment, perform all the necessary lab work, and do an ultrasound. This visit generally takes about an hour. At the second visit, the procedure takes place. This visit takes about an hour as well. For out of town patients for whom it would be difficult to make two trips to our office, were able to schedule both the initial appointment and the procedure on the same day.
Medical abortions generally require three visits. At the first visit, we do a health assessment, perform all the necessary lab work, and do an ultrasound. This visit takes about an hour. At the second visit, the physician gives the first pill and directions for taking two more pills at home. The third visit is required during which you will have an exam and another ultrasound.
From a health perspective, these ultrasounds are critical. They detect the exact age of the fetus, which often dictates which type of abortion procedure the woman can receive. They can also spot potential complications that could impact the procedure, like ectopic pregnancies. In clinics that dont have access to ultrasound technology, sometimes pelvic exams can be used as a substitute. But those are arguably just as invasive as the transvaginal ultrasounds pro-choice activists are decrying.
In other words, the real reason pro-choicers oppose the law isnt because of the invasiveness or creepiness of ultrasounds. It cant be it. Virginia Planned Parenthood clinics already include them in its abortion procedures.
And lets be honest. The main reason pro-lifers support the Virginia ultrasound bill isnt out of medical necessity not if these scans are already standard operating procedure at clinics.
This fight, like virtually all abortion law fights, is about how much of a role religion and morality should play in regulating these procedures. Pro-choice activists seem to have no problem with ultrasounds, as long as theyre done for medical reasons. But the fact that ultrasounds tend to already be part of abortions isnt enough for pro-life activists. They want the main purpose for the scans to be promoting the culture of life. The Virginia law would mandate doctors to display and describe the ultrasound to the patient. And the image could end up dissuading many women from going ahead with the abortion.
While the pro-lifers have been pretty open about their motives, the pro-choicers whose motto used to be safe, legal and rare havent been. If they want to oppose the bill in order to keep morality out of abortion laws, thats fine. But the rape comparisons are fundamentally dishonest and insult the intelligence of the public theyre trying to win over.
“But the rape comparisons are fundamentally dishonest ...”
Then I should just stick to the ‘murdering babies’ comparison? Really, there’s no need to step down from murder to rape, is there?
A trans-vaginal ultrasound is not painful. They give a better picture, altho I do not know the pros and cons of both for this particular use.
They’re not at all painful. They’re not even uncomfortable.
They already do ultra sounds all they have to do is allow the woman to see them now.The ultrasound procedure they speak of is only down for the first 4 weeks of pregnancy when most women are not even aware they are pregnant yet.Most of the time it is down for those who are undergoing IVF or are having high risk pregnancies.
Not true abdominal ultra sounds now are so good that they are used from 5 weeks on. trans-vaginal ultra sounds are only used during the first 4 weeks from the last period or if there is a high risk/problem pregnancy.
Well I don’t think they will be buying the other machines to do them since they cost a lot more than a new abdominal ultra sound machine does and is why they are only used when here is a problem....
This is a non-issue ... The machines can be bought for well under $1500 and they pay for themselves in one days use when the clinic upcharges a few times for 2nd trimester vs. 1st. Their only real objection has to do with women changing their minds when confronted with an image.
Says who? Been there, done that and would shoot anyone who tried to do it to me again.