Skip to comments.Glen Beck Vigorously Insisting Mormans are Christians.
Posted on 02/22/2012 3:28:43 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER
This morning Glen Beck was discussing "what is a Christian" and used the full title of the LDS Church as proof they are Christians, not some whacked out cult based on a modern day "prophet".
He also spoke of how Soros thinks of himself as a god.
As a disclaimer, every member of that church that I've ever met was a clean living, humble and generous person...but that doesn't make them Christians.
Weren't you planning on becoming a "god" of your very own planet? Or not, what's up with that?
Aren't Mormon women in the afterlife supposed to be eternally pregnant?
How about the 6' tall inhabitants of the Sun and Moon?
And what about the planet Kolob Glen?
This doesn't sound like New Testament Christianity to me.
That's because isn't - it is American neognosticism.
He was twisting around trying to sell that he is a Christian. Baptizing the dead didn’t seem to come up in his argument.
The mormon founders (in violation of fraternal oaths) stole the masonic handshakes, passwords, and whatnot and turned fraternity rituals into a religion.
As a mason and a Christian -— and pissed that they give confuddule our fraternity into their cult -— I like to mess with mormons by giving them their super-secret handshakes.
Completely messes with their minds, and gives me the opportunity to tell them about what frauds their founders were.
Simple question then. Why do they feel the need to do proxy baptisms of dead Christians of other denominations.
I find that practice to be an abomination.
It isn't. But I lost interest in designating some people Christian and some not. Let Jesus sort it out. He knows who has a right relationship with Him and who is going to hear, "I never knew you" at the judgement. He knows when people have been genuinely misled, when they're selfish and blind, when they've acknowledged Him as Lord and Redeemer Who died for their sins, when their faith is but a show, and when they've spent their lives trying to serve and love Him, though mistaken about the facts. It's beyond me to determine. God knows many on this forum accuse me of not being a real Christian and spit invective at me, and as I ask them to leave the decision about my faith to Christ, I'm going to try to leave the decision about Mormons to Him, too.
Oh for Pete’s Sake, give it a rest!
I am so tired of these Mormon threads.
I don’t have an oar in this but for Pete’s sake, who really cares?
The whole kerfluffle began with Mitt Romney trying to enhance his prospects of election.
Prior to that point, both Mormon and Christian agreed, that Mormons are Mormons. Their own founders refuted the notion.
They are people of the book, just as Jews, Christians and Muslims are. They’re about as Christian, as Christians are Jews.
That’s the fairest answer. They are closely associated with Christianity but have gone well beyond it.
Any religion that doesn’t believe in salvation and forgiveness of all your sins by the blood of Jesus Christ is not Christian and a cult. Sorry Glen, love you but you are not a Christian but a believer in a false prophet.
Pray for America
A year or so ago, on his radio show, I heard Beck refer to one’s spouse as one’s “eternal spirit companion.” That is Mormon doctrine. It is not Christian, and in fact, denies what the Bible says about marriage in heaven.
I am NOT a Mormon; but all of my step-family is. I grew up a Methodist, and still am, but I grew up in close proximity to the LDS Church.
While I personally find their theology more than a little strange, I have no doubt they are Christians.
It used to be Mormons were proud of the fact they weren’t Christians. I wish they would stay that way.
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of the ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing to his cross. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it. (Colossians 2:13-15)
The crucifixion is the center of the gospel. It is atested in all four of the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). It is not a secretive shedding of blood in sweat in the garden at Gethsemane. Further the Bible doesn't even say he sweated blood. "and his sweat was as it were great drops of the blood..." (Luke 22:44). as it were introduces a simile (like/as). He didn't sweat blood. He shed his precious blood on the cross.
"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but unto to us are saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18)
I've never seen one before, so why do you keep reading them?
I dont have an oar in this but for Petes sake...
Well neither do I
...who really cares?
Hardcore Christians. There are plenty of other traditional religions around that are not Christian and don't claim or pretend to be.
ROCKLOBSTER, you oughtta be ashamed of yourself for making Chickensoup come to this thread.
Christianity, in it’s essence, is two steps: Believe and Receive.
Believe with all your heart that Jesus Christ is the historic. crucified, resurrected Son of God who died on the cross to bear the punishment of our past, present and future sins.
Receive his free gift of salvation by asking Jesus into your heart to fill you with the Holy Spirit and desire to obey and fellowship with God for the rest of your life.
This is all He requires (although there is still far more to living such a life). By faith we are saved and not by works, lest any man should boast.
If a person tells me they have done this, I will accept them as a Christian and hope to see evidence by their actions but I will not judge them. That is for Jesus to examine their hearts and judge them.
We will be shocked at the Day of Reckoning who is and isn’t accepted by Jesus and whose names are written in the Book Of Life. But that is not my job. It’s our duty simply to love one another as we have been commanded.
I agree 100%, what they believe is their business.
Is Mormans the new spelling for Mormons?
Or are we getting a new wave of illiterates?
Christ died on the cross to free us from original sin. What was that sin? Adam and Eve ate from the forbidden tree of knowledge, committing the sin of pride (Believing they could be like God). Mormons would have us believe that after he ascended into heaven, he came back to earth and founded a religion that believes they will all be gods some day.
No, actually it isn't. I just wanted to see if others heard Beck following this false narrative.
I think Santorum was talking about the false religion of American Liberalism, which includes tree hugging earth worship, homosexuality, goddess worship and feminine superiority, the self worship of atheism, the liberal's high priests of psychiatry and psychology, death worship and euthanasia, and liberalism's holy sacrament of abortion.
Therefore, since Mormonism adds things to be saved, it is not Biblical. You can call them Christian or not. Today being Christian can mean many things; but you cannot call Mormonism Biblical.
Not you. Not Franklin Graham. Not any committee.
No kidding. Mostly the latter, especially when discussing mister idiot lightweight Beck.
I am also a Mason. I did the same thing to a neighbor and his mouth literally fell open. He refused to say much to me after that.
Bull shit Glenn. Retarded A-hole.
Than say goodnight Gracie.
I do, I think they do.
What I don't know is if he reads this forum...I hope he does.
Yes, God will sort it out. Well said. Do you suppose that Got would let all that LDS fervor go to waste? I think God is moving them along so they become used by him for his glory. I think the handshakes and strange fairy tales can be God’s tools to get child-like humans on their knees to Him. The Catholics use bells and smells for God’s purposes. All are God’s net to pull souls in for his glory. God is that fisher of men.
Yes, God will sort it out. Well said. Do you suppose that God would let all that LDS fervor go to waste? I think God is moving them along so they become used by him for his glory. I think the handshakes and strange fairy tales can be God’s tools to get child-like humans on their knees to Him. The Catholics use bells and smells for God’s purposes. All are God’s net to pull souls in for his glory. God is that fisher of men.
There's no way that mormonism in any way equates with Christianity. There's only one God, not tens of thousands.
And they've been under orders to stress the similarities ever since people like Mittens Romney became eligible for high office. Whereas, if you really study their written material, Christianity is abhorred by the mormons.
When they moved to Utah, they did so to get away from Christians.
Let it slide. If Mittens is the nominee, the presstitutes are going to “go there” in the biggest way—white salamanders, magic underwear whatever. Frankly, I don’t care a hoot. Save for a Muslim, I will vote for anyone other than the Marxist, lazy, dishonest, empty suit, racialist 0bama.
Imagine my surprise in 1960 when I went to the Mormon temple first time. The ceremonies and the handshakes and such were just like the Fraternity Activation ceremonies I had just gone through when being activated in Sigma Alpha Epsilon as a frat boy. Sorry but all of the frats in the day copied Masonic secret ceremonies.
On another note I instantly knew at that moment it was all a crock.
Sorry, but it doesn’t work that way. A religion doesn’t get to deny basic Christian doctrine and make up its own, and then call itself “Christian.”
BTW, do you think Christianity is “more than a little strange?”
I mentioned that, nor do they claim to be. But let's not forget Scientologists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Jews and Quakers. There are probably many more.
As an ex-mormon, I know many good people who are mormon, doesn’t make them Christian in the Biblical sense. When mormon doctrine and theology is tested against the Bible, it fails.
Mormons worship a god who earned his way to becoming god, that he wasn’t eternal. He resides on the planet Kolob.
Mormons deny the trinity.
Mormons believe lucifer and christ are literally brothers.
Mormons believe that they can earn their way to becoming a god, like the one they worship.
Mormons believe that god and christ engage in celestial polygamy. Creating spirit babies needed to populate the planet.
Mormons believe that only those who are worthy temple recommend holders will dwell with god in the highest of 3 eternal kingdoms. All others will be cut off from their god’s presence.
Mormons believe and engage in pagan rituals that are required in order for one to complete the requirements needed in order to attain exaltation (godhood).
Mormons believe in a religion founded by a “prophet” who uttered false prophecies.
Mormons were content from the inception of their religion to label all Christians as apostates, whores of Babylon.
Only lately, in the past couple of decades have they sought equal recognition and point to the name of their church as proof that they’re Christians.
They can be mormons all they want, but when they try to lay claim to Christianity, they shouldn’t be surprised when Christians question it.
Nor should they expect a pass on many of their teachings and practices that contravene the teachings of Christ and the Apostles.
When you look into it you will find that the Jesus that the Mormons claim is their savior,(The morman book is not the Christian bible) and the Jesus Christ (in the Christian bible) that the Chrisians believe in is not one and the same. It is a different person with the same name.
Quakers don’t believe in the Trinity? President Nixon was brought up in that religion. Aren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses a hard shell version of Seventh Day Adventists? Scientology is the 20th Century version of Mormonism and Jews never claimed to be Christians.
Read it twice, never got it.
Agree. The anti-Christian bigotry by mormons on display is disgusting.
Beck also stated today that Ghandi is in heaven with Jesus.
The Mormon church saved Beck’s life that is all that matters, Beck is a
great person inside and out. He believes we as a people need to save and help each other NO GOVERNMENT he also puts his money where
his mouth is. I know a lot of you bash Beck constantly I TOTALLY
DISAGREE Beck speaks the truth and has brought our corrupt government and money to the light of day!!!!!