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Glen Beck Vigorously Insisting Mormans are Christians.
ROCKLOBSTER

Posted on 02/22/2012 3:28:43 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER

This morning Glen Beck was discussing "what is a Christian" and used the full title of the LDS Church as proof they are Christians, not some whacked out cult based on a modern day "prophet".

He also spoke of how Soros thinks of himself as a god.

As a disclaimer, every member of that church that I've ever met was a clean living, humble and generous person...but that doesn't make them Christians.


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Hey Glen!

Weren't you planning on becoming a "god" of your very own planet? Or not, what's up with that?

Aren't Mormon women in the afterlife supposed to be eternally pregnant?

How about the 6' tall inhabitants of the Sun and Moon?

And what about the planet Kolob Glen?

This doesn't sound like New Testament Christianity to me.

1 posted on 02/22/2012 3:28:57 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
This doesn't sound like New Testament Christianity to me.

That's because isn't - it is American neognosticism.

2 posted on 02/22/2012 3:33:22 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

He was twisting around trying to sell that he is a Christian. Baptizing the dead didn’t seem to come up in his argument.


3 posted on 02/22/2012 3:38:59 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Glenn went on and on that you could tell if one was a Christian by their works. There a a number of Atheist on Free Republic that are as good and conservative as any Spirit fill Christin that I know. He just doesn't get it.
4 posted on 02/22/2012 3:39:11 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The mormon founders (in violation of fraternal oaths) stole the masonic handshakes, passwords, and whatnot and turned fraternity rituals into a religion.

As a mason and a Christian -— and pissed that they give confuddule our fraternity into their cult -— I like to mess with mormons by giving them their super-secret handshakes.

Completely messes with their minds, and gives me the opportunity to tell them about what frauds their founders were.


5 posted on 02/22/2012 3:39:24 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Simple question then. Why do they feel the need to do proxy baptisms of dead Christians of other denominations.

I find that practice to be an abomination.


6 posted on 02/22/2012 3:40:00 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC AND THE MEDIA: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
This doesn't sound like New Testament Christianity to me.

It isn't. But I lost interest in designating some people Christian and some not. Let Jesus sort it out. He knows who has a right relationship with Him and who is going to hear, "I never knew you" at the judgement. He knows when people have been genuinely misled, when they're selfish and blind, when they've acknowledged Him as Lord and Redeemer Who died for their sins, when their faith is but a show, and when they've spent their lives trying to serve and love Him, though mistaken about the facts. It's beyond me to determine. God knows many on this forum accuse me of not being a real Christian and spit invective at me, and as I ask them to leave the decision about my faith to Christ, I'm going to try to leave the decision about Mormons to Him, too.

7 posted on 02/22/2012 3:42:02 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Oh for Pete’s Sake, give it a rest!

I am so tired of these Mormon threads.

I don’t have an oar in this but for Pete’s sake, who really cares?


8 posted on 02/22/2012 3:42:56 PM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
If your deed is to convince people that you are a Christian, then there is something wrong there.
9 posted on 02/22/2012 3:44:09 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Cometh the hour, cometh the man. NEWT GINGRICH 2012)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The whole kerfluffle began with Mitt Romney trying to enhance his prospects of election.

Prior to that point, both Mormon and Christian agreed, that Mormons are Mormons. Their own founders refuted the notion.

They are people of the book, just as Jews, Christians and Muslims are. They’re about as Christian, as Christians are Jews.

That’s the fairest answer. They are closely associated with Christianity but have gone well beyond it.


10 posted on 02/22/2012 3:45:26 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Any religion that doesn’t believe in salvation and forgiveness of all your sins by the blood of Jesus Christ is not Christian and a cult. Sorry Glen, love you but you are not a Christian but a believer in a false prophet.

Pray for America


11 posted on 02/22/2012 3:45:56 PM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for the Bambino)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

A year or so ago, on his radio show, I heard Beck refer to one’s spouse as one’s “eternal spirit companion.” That is Mormon doctrine. It is not Christian, and in fact, denies what the Bible says about marriage in heaven.


12 posted on 02/22/2012 3:46:03 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I am NOT a Mormon; but all of my step-family is. I grew up a Methodist, and still am, but I grew up in close proximity to the LDS Church.

While I personally find their theology more than a little strange, I have no doubt they are Christians.


13 posted on 02/22/2012 3:47:07 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

It used to be Mormons were proud of the fact they weren’t Christians. I wish they would stay that way.


14 posted on 02/22/2012 3:50:29 PM PST by pallis
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
I had a cousin who was into "Christian Science". They are not Christians. They reject the atonement of the cross, like Mormons. Mormons believe that Jesus atoned for our sin in the garden at Gethsemane, in stark cnntrast to what the Bible teaches.
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of the ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing to his cross. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it. (Colossians 2:13-15)

The crucifixion is the center of the gospel. It is atested in all four of the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). It is not a secretive shedding of blood in sweat in the garden at Gethsemane. Further the Bible doesn't even say he sweated blood. "and his sweat was as it were great drops of the blood..." (Luke 22:44). as it were introduces a simile (like/as). He didn't sweat blood. He shed his precious blood on the cross.

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but unto to us are saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18)

What Mormons believe about the cross.

15 posted on 02/22/2012 3:51:05 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: Chickensoup

Wow!


16 posted on 02/22/2012 3:53:29 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Godzilla

I don’t think Glen honestly knows the difference. My RLDS simply doesn’t understand, no matter how much I’ve talked to him about it.


17 posted on 02/22/2012 3:53:41 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
WTH folks... don't you know Glenn Beck is a Morman.
18 posted on 02/22/2012 3:56:30 PM PST by Musketeer
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To: Chickensoup
I am so tired of these Mormon threads.

I've never seen one before, so why do you keep reading them?

I don’t have an oar in this but for Pete’s sake...

Well neither do I

...who really cares?

Hardcore Christians. There are plenty of other traditional religions around that are not Christian and don't claim or pretend to be.

19 posted on 02/22/2012 3:56:33 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Chickensoup; ROCKLOBSTER
I am so tired of these Mormon threads.

ROCKLOBSTER, you oughtta be ashamed of yourself for making Chickensoup come to this thread.

20 posted on 02/22/2012 3:57:35 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Christianity, in it’s essence, is two steps: Believe and Receive.

Believe with all your heart that Jesus Christ is the historic. crucified, resurrected Son of God who died on the cross to bear the punishment of our past, present and future sins.

Receive his free gift of salvation by asking Jesus into your heart to fill you with the Holy Spirit and desire to obey and fellowship with God for the rest of your life.

This is all He requires (although there is still far more to living such a life). By faith we are saved and not by works, lest any man should boast.

If a person tells me they have done this, I will accept them as a Christian and hope to see evidence by their actions but I will not judge them. That is for Jesus to examine their hearts and judge them.

We will be shocked at the Day of Reckoning who is and isn’t accepted by Jesus and whose names are written in the Book Of Life. But that is not my job. It’s our duty simply to love one another as we have been commanded.


21 posted on 02/22/2012 3:58:43 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

FUGB


22 posted on 02/22/2012 3:58:48 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Chickensoup

I agree 100%, what they believe is their business.


23 posted on 02/22/2012 3:59:15 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
I have noticed something odd the last few weeks...

Is Mormans the new spelling for Mormons?
Or are we getting a new wave of illiterates?

24 posted on 02/22/2012 4:01:29 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Christ died on the cross to free us from original sin. What was that sin? Adam and Eve ate from the forbidden tree of knowledge, committing the sin of pride (Believing they could be like God). Mormons would have us believe that after he ascended into heaven, he came back to earth and founded a “religion” that believes they will all be gods some day.


25 posted on 02/22/2012 4:02:11 PM PST by anoldafvet
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To: Berlin_Freeper
If your deed is to convince people that you are a Christian, then there is something wrong there.

No, actually it isn't. I just wanted to see if others heard Beck following this false narrative.

I think Santorum was talking about the false religion of American Liberalism, which includes tree hugging earth worship, homosexuality, goddess worship and feminine superiority, the self worship of atheism, the liberal's high priests of psychiatry and psychology, death worship and euthanasia, and liberalism's holy sacrament of abortion.

26 posted on 02/22/2012 4:02:46 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
There is a simple test to see if a religion is Biblical or not. The Bible is specific in that Jesus' grace is the only way to be saved from eternal punishment, there is nothing to be added or subtracted. If a religion states there is something to be added or subtracted to be saved than it is not Biblical.

Therefore, since Mormonism adds things to be saved, it is not Biblical. You can call them Christian or not. Today being Christian can mean many things; but you cannot call Mormonism Biblical.

27 posted on 02/22/2012 4:03:38 PM PST by celmak
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Many Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrianists, Animists and Druids are probably nice clean living people, too. None of them are Christians, either.
28 posted on 02/22/2012 4:03:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Jesus Christ gets to decide.

Not you. Not Franklin Graham. Not any committee.

29 posted on 02/22/2012 4:04:07 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Publius6961

No kidding. Mostly the latter, especially when discussing mister idiot lightweight Beck.


30 posted on 02/22/2012 4:04:20 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
As a mason and a Christian -— and pissed that they give confuddule our fraternity into their cult -— I like to mess with mormons by giving them their super-secret handshakes.

I am also a Mason. I did the same thing to a neighbor and his mouth literally fell open. He refused to say much to me after that.

31 posted on 02/22/2012 4:04:38 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Bull shit Glenn. Retarded A-hole.


32 posted on 02/22/2012 4:05:26 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Chickensoup

Than say goodnight Gracie.


33 posted on 02/22/2012 4:06:26 PM PST by celmak
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To: Musketeer
WTH folks... don't you know Glenn Beck is a Morman.

I do, I think they do.

What I don't know is if he reads this forum...I hope he does.

34 posted on 02/22/2012 4:07:04 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ottbmare

Yes, God will sort it out. Well said. Do you suppose that Got would let all that LDS fervor go to waste? I think God is moving them along so they become used by him for his glory. I think the handshakes and strange fairy tales can be God’s tools to get child-like humans on their knees to Him. The Catholics use bells and smells for God’s purposes. All are God’s net to pull souls in for his glory. God is that fisher of men.


35 posted on 02/22/2012 4:07:04 PM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: ottbmare

Yes, God will sort it out. Well said. Do you suppose that God would let all that LDS fervor go to waste? I think God is moving them along so they become used by him for his glory. I think the handshakes and strange fairy tales can be God’s tools to get child-like humans on their knees to Him. The Catholics use bells and smells for God’s purposes. All are God’s net to pull souls in for his glory. God is that fisher of men.


36 posted on 02/22/2012 4:07:44 PM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Of course he would insist that . . . he's a mormon . . . they just can't believe that their man-made religion will take them straight to Hell by the tens of thousands, and are trying to feel better here on earth spreading this heresy.

There's no way that mormonism in any way equates with Christianity. There's only one God, not tens of thousands.

And they've been under orders to stress the similarities ever since people like Mittens Romney became eligible for high office. Whereas, if you really study their written material, Christianity is abhorred by the mormons.

37 posted on 02/22/2012 4:09:27 PM PST by laweeks
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To: pallis

When they moved to Utah, they did so to get away from Christians.


38 posted on 02/22/2012 4:10:23 PM PST by RC2
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Let it slide. If Mittens is the nominee, the presstitutes are going to “go there” in the biggest way—white salamanders, magic underwear whatever. Frankly, I don’t care a hoot. Save for a Muslim, I will vote for anyone other than the Marxist, lazy, dishonest, empty suit, racialist 0bama.


39 posted on 02/22/2012 4:12:38 PM PST by eureka! (Bless Our Troops. D*mn the Left.)
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To: OldMissileer; Elsie

Imagine my surprise in 1960 when I went to the Mormon temple first time. The ceremonies and the handshakes and such were just like the Fraternity Activation ceremonies I had just gone through when being activated in Sigma Alpha Epsilon as a frat boy. Sorry but all of the frats in the day copied Masonic secret ceremonies.

On another note I instantly knew at that moment it was all a crock.


40 posted on 02/22/2012 4:14:39 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: clee1

Sorry, but it doesn’t work that way. A religion doesn’t get to deny basic Christian doctrine and make up its own, and then call itself “Christian.”

BTW, do you think Christianity is “more than a little strange?”


41 posted on 02/22/2012 4:16:50 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Many Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrianists, Animists and Druids are probably nice clean living people, too. None of them are Christians, either.

I mentioned that, nor do they claim to be. But let's not forget Scientologists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Jews and Quakers. There are probably many more.

42 posted on 02/22/2012 4:19:44 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Chickensoup
Agree. The anti-Mormon bigotry on display is disgusting.
43 posted on 02/22/2012 4:22:06 PM PST by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

As an ex-mormon, I know many good people who are mormon, doesn’t make them Christian in the Biblical sense. When mormon doctrine and theology is tested against the Bible, it fails.

Mormons worship a god who earned his way to becoming god, that he wasn’t eternal. He resides on the planet Kolob.

Mormons deny the trinity.

Mormons believe lucifer and christ are literally brothers.

Mormons believe that they can earn their way to becoming a god, like the one they worship.

Mormons believe that god and christ engage in celestial polygamy. Creating spirit babies needed to populate the planet.

Mormons believe that only those who are worthy temple recommend holders will dwell with god in the highest of 3 eternal kingdoms. All others will be cut off from their god’s presence.

Mormons believe and engage in pagan rituals that are required in order for one to complete the requirements needed in order to attain exaltation (godhood).

Mormons believe in a religion founded by a “prophet” who uttered false prophecies.

Mormons were content from the inception of their religion to label all Christians as apostates, whores of Babylon.

Only lately, in the past couple of decades have they sought equal recognition and point to the name of their church as proof that they’re Christians.

They can be mormons all they want, but when they try to lay claim to Christianity, they shouldn’t be surprised when Christians question it.

Nor should they expect a pass on many of their teachings and practices that contravene the teachings of Christ and the Apostles.


44 posted on 02/22/2012 4:22:25 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Utah Binger

When you look into it you will find that the Jesus that the Mormons claim is their savior,(The morman book is not the Christian bible) and the Jesus Christ (in the Christian bible) that the Chrisians believe in is not one and the same. It is a different person with the same name.


45 posted on 02/22/2012 4:22:59 PM PST by LookingUp
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Quakers don’t believe in the Trinity? President Nixon was brought up in that religion. Aren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses a hard shell version of Seventh Day Adventists? Scientology is the 20th Century version of Mormonism and Jews never claimed to be Christians.


46 posted on 02/22/2012 4:23:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: LookingUp

Read it twice, never got it.


47 posted on 02/22/2012 4:29:04 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Jacquerie

Agree. The anti-Christian bigotry by mormons on display is disgusting.


48 posted on 02/22/2012 4:29:20 PM PST by Turtlepower
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Beck also stated today that Ghandi is in heaven with Jesus.


49 posted on 02/22/2012 4:30:39 PM PST by scbison
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To: SZonian

The Mormon church saved Beck’s life that is all that matters, Beck is a
great person inside and out. He believes we as a people need to save and help each other NO GOVERNMENT he also puts his money where
his mouth is. I know a lot of you bash Beck constantly I TOTALLY
DISAGREE Beck speaks the truth and has brought our corrupt government and money to the light of day!!!!!


50 posted on 02/22/2012 4:32:17 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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