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Live Thread (CNN Presidential Debate from Mesa, AZ, Feb 22, 8 PM EST)
CNN.com ^ | 02-22-2012 | parksstp

Posted on 02/22/2012 3:30:02 PM PST by parksstp

LIVE DEBATE THREAD (Is it too early to start?)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
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To: mylife

Santorum spoke at Whitney Houstons funeral too? /s


1,151 posted on 02/22/2012 7:35:05 PM PST by MagUSNRET (I have always been proud of my country, it is my government that I am ashamed of!)
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To: eyedigress

I would agree with that.
She’s a lib thru and thru, but she has an honest streak.


1,152 posted on 02/22/2012 7:35:10 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: maine-iac7

Perhaps he told them to pi$$ up a rope. I would have.


1,153 posted on 02/22/2012 7:35:18 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. President Newt Gingrich--"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less.")
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To: mojitojoe

1,154 posted on 02/22/2012 7:35:32 PM PST by JediJones
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To: Yankee

Gingrich can take this. Gasoline is not covered by the Food Stamp President. If it costs me 125 bucks to fill up my truck I am mowing my own damn lawn.


1,155 posted on 02/22/2012 7:35:52 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: aruanan
I'm sure Drudge's pole thinks Romney won.
1,156 posted on 02/22/2012 7:35:52 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC AND THE MEDIA: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: tet68
Hey Brother! I would take Newt AND Sarah on my 9 & 3, in a night fight, while crawling through a puss-pit of pungy sticks in a Claymore Perimeter overrun any day!
1,157 posted on 02/22/2012 7:35:52 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: imchris

I always thought center was reserved for those highest in polls?


1,158 posted on 02/22/2012 7:36:05 PM PST by PghBaldy (Bart Stupak. Onece again, Obama proves he is not an honest broker. He can't be trusted.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

If Ron Paul can take him out, Obama will also.


1,159 posted on 02/22/2012 7:36:25 PM PST by taterjay
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To: aruanan
Though the poll on Drudge seemed to think Romney and Paul won, ha ha ha ha ha.

A silly twinkle toes poll from Sludge. LoL.

1,160 posted on 02/22/2012 7:37:10 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: BCrago66

Someone on the CNN panel said Newt might find his way back to frontrunner status now, I believe Donna Brazile. This prompted extremely nervous-sounding mock-mocking laughter from the RINOs and libs on the panel.


1,161 posted on 02/22/2012 7:37:18 PM PST by JediJones
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To: Deo volente

My dream team:
President: Newt Gingrich
VP: Herman Cain
Sec of State: John Bolton
Sec of Defense: Allen West
Sec of Treasury: Mitt Romney
Sec of Energy: Sarah Palin
Sec of HHS: Rick Santorum
Attorney General:Rudy G.


1,162 posted on 02/22/2012 7:37:28 PM PST by seekthetruth (I want a Commander In Chief who honors and supports our Military!)
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To: Toespi

AS I said... Rose colored Glasses hand out by Rick to these FR supporters!!! That is the only excuse I can give... Newt is the man! The rest are Obama fodder!


1,163 posted on 02/22/2012 7:37:32 PM PST by Repub4bush (GOPbriefingroom.com)
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To: AGreatPer
->>Donna Brazile is one of the most disgusting women in the world.

She is one of the high powerful players in politics. Her word is very solid and she said Newt was on a comeback; Newt was the statesman of the party; Rick was at spring training camp and did not do well. She said Mitt still has a problem sealing a deal with the base. Sounds ALL right to me. We need to support Newt or Mitt will win.

1,164 posted on 02/22/2012 7:37:40 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: taterjay

Does not answer my question and pure speculation on your part.


1,165 posted on 02/22/2012 7:38:07 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: mylife

Hard to tell these days, but it’s completely believable yes.


1,166 posted on 02/22/2012 7:38:35 PM PST by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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To: KJC1

Hey KJ! We need to catch up sometime!! I have missed you :)


1,167 posted on 02/22/2012 7:38:51 PM PST by Repub4bush (GOPbriefingroom.com)
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To: Kenny
This is American Politics junior, you have to break some eggs if you want to make an omelet!
1,168 posted on 02/22/2012 7:39:58 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Yankee

Stay with Newt and he will rise again. He is our best bet.

Even Paul was able to successfully beat up Santorum tonight.

President Newt Gingrich—”Our beloved republic deserves nothing less.”


1,169 posted on 02/22/2012 7:40:11 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. President Newt Gingrich--"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less.")
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To: mojitojoe

The only time Newt didn’t win tonight was when he wasn’t talking. Every answer was gold. It was too bad in the first third that Romney and Santorum hogged so much airtime. Hopefully people stuck around to see the rest of it.


1,170 posted on 02/22/2012 7:40:11 PM PST by JediJones
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To: BCrago66

I don’t care - don’t care if she’s nice or not or whatever. It’s insulting for a network to have a majority of the people commenting on Republican debates being folks who would NEVER under any circumstances vote for one of the debaters. They don’t like us. They would never vote for one of us AND I’m tired of having to pretend they’re ‘objective’. They’re NOT... CNN needs to grow up - get real...


1,171 posted on 02/22/2012 7:41:08 PM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: TheZMan

As real as RICE!


1,172 posted on 02/22/2012 7:41:57 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: mylife

she has an honest streak.

I’ve noticed a slight change in her lately.
Not nearly the Obama acolyte she once was.
Can it be that she’s changing her mind.

There’s no zealot like a reformed zealot and
she could sway a lot of folks.

She would have to turn a lot farther before I
could trust her but still...
There has to be a lot of voters who are feeling
remorse at this point.


1,173 posted on 02/22/2012 7:42:08 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Christie at the beach

Ricky just whined to Greta that he was “double teamed” tonight. Lol. Wait till Obama and the MSM get him, he will fold like an accordion.


1,174 posted on 02/22/2012 7:42:33 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Sacajaweau
Here’s my problem with mail in votes. How do you know they got counted and not thrown in the waste basket?

Lol.

Faith...?

1,175 posted on 02/22/2012 7:42:57 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Gator113

Newt is a Statesman with a HUGE background in history and MILITARY HISTORY as well...he will surround himself with good people....as I have said, I like Santorum, but our country is in such deep chit now, we do not need another POTUS that has a big “learning curve” and Santorum would have that! Santorum may be better served by stepping back and LEARNING for a few more (like 8) years...then give it a go...at this point in American history, we NEED a statesman...we NEED Newt! (My name is Mag, and I approve this message)


1,176 posted on 02/22/2012 7:43:06 PM PST by MagUSNRET (I have always been proud of my country, it is my government that I am ashamed of!)
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To: sandshark222

Look,
Santorum is conflicted.
He is a Big Gov spender and he just don’t get governance.

You can love him all day for his moral perspectives but they dont fly in a general governance.

Ron Paul said it well when he said BC pills dont cause immoral activity any more than guns kill people.

Santorumn just doesn’t get it.
He passed a pill that funded planned parenthood and justified it by spending more money to fund abstinence programs.

Spend spend spend blah blah blah..


1,177 posted on 02/22/2012 7:43:55 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Kenny

“You know I don’t see Santorum supporters insulting Newt or tearing him down when Rick’s ahead.”

Then you are blind or kept locked in a closet.

Cheer up, your guy won the highest boo count tonight.

President Newt Gingrich—”Our beloved republic deserves nothing less.”


1,178 posted on 02/22/2012 7:44:53 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. President Newt Gingrich--"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less.")
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To: going hot

[ anyone know where someone can catch a replay? ]

CNN 10:00 pm And 1:00 am CST


1,179 posted on 02/22/2012 7:45:20 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Christie at the beach

Why am I even listening to these CNN dweebs? Erick Ericson or however he spells it, just said, after saying that Newt helped himself the most, he said he was “kind of disappointed—I was thinking we would see the four of them fly to the moon and battle Satan for contraceptives.” What a butt.


1,180 posted on 02/22/2012 7:45:33 PM PST by Shelayne (NO ROMNEY--NOT NOW--NOT EVER!)
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To: Kenny

I don’t either. I like Newt, and he is my second chioce after Santorum, but I’m going to have a hard time voting for him, not because of anything he has done but because his supporters are really some of the nastiest people I’ve come across on the internet. I say this as someone who used to debate as often the only social conservative on a liberal forum.


1,181 posted on 02/22/2012 7:45:40 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: JediJones

“Newt might find his way back to frontrunner status now”

Newt could have brought down the house if he had used another word to best describe himself. Cheerful? are you kidding?

He should have said “The TERMINATOR !”

It would have got everyone our of their seats. We need someone to terminate everything Obama has done the past 3 years.


1,182 posted on 02/22/2012 7:46:32 PM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: MagUSNRET

LOL!


1,183 posted on 02/22/2012 7:46:36 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Gator113

LOL! That’s so true, they all took turns bloodying Santorum’s snotty nose tonite! But between Romney and Paul, Santorum was ROAD KILL........(Not even skunks would eat it.)


1,184 posted on 02/22/2012 7:46:50 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: MagUSNRET

at this point in American history, we NEED a statesman...we NEED Newt! (My name is Mag, and I approve this message)

I approve of Mag’s message also!


1,185 posted on 02/22/2012 7:47:22 PM PST by taterjay
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To: MagUSNRET

Nope. We need a junkyard scrappin pit bull with no fear and a bad attitude...that’s Newt and I’m 100% behind him. I just people here would think for a second that Obama can’t speak in complete sentences without TOTUS or a prepped script. ;)

Anyone up there tonight including RS would flay him alive in a heads up debate.


1,186 posted on 02/22/2012 7:47:28 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
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To: MagUSNRET

One thing about Newt is that he KNOWS how the
executive/legislative interaction works. I believe
he, like Reagan could get his work done even through
hostile chambers. He is the only candidate that has
that experience.


1,187 posted on 02/22/2012 7:47:28 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Deo volente

I think Palin should Secretary of Energy, if that position still exists, or head the new ESA to replace the EPA. I think Sarah needs some more time to bulk up her policy credentials before running on the presidential ticket again. She was smart personally to resign and spend time doing media and entertainment to make money in these years, but she needs to be more serious for a while before joining another ticket.

I used to think Santorum would be a good V.P., but it seems like he’s going to need more practice taking the heat before he’s ready for that. Maybe this is why he lost in 2006. The Democrats specifically targeted him then like they never had before, and maybe he couldn’t handle the attention.

I think we need to take a closer look at John Kasich for V.P. He has the rust belt, blue collar appeal from a swing state like Ohio and he has been shown to be a very good communicator during his guest hosting gigs on FOX. He was a big conservative name in Newt’s ‘90s Congress and has been pushing the conservative agenda in Ohio, although he got outflanked by the libs on the union vote unfortunately. Going for a Hispanic or woman would also be good strategically of course, but I just don’t know of any candidates ready for prime time in that regard.


1,188 posted on 02/22/2012 7:48:39 PM PST by JediJones
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To: MagUSNRET
I hate to say this but even mitty sounded more presidential than Ricky....

My husband was for Ricky, like a lot here on fr due to polls, but his heart was always with Newt! Well he is back and was even calling people for Newt tonight during the debate! He has had enough of Ricky's pandering and sees that even if we lose.. we lose with the best person to run the country... not a wannabe! Santorum is just not likeable! He has no other qualities.. Net may not be likeable by some, but he has Ideas that can win over people.. Ricky is a wet sweater vset!

1,189 posted on 02/22/2012 7:48:41 PM PST by Repub4bush (GOPbriefingroom.com)
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To: MagUSNRET

Gator113 also approves of your message.


1,190 posted on 02/22/2012 7:48:41 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. President Newt Gingrich--"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less.")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; Jim Robinson; onyx; STARWISE

Just read this on Sarah Palin’s Facebook page:

“Sarah Palin
Newt’s message on energy development was spot-on. Drill now and stop bowing to foreign regimes begging them to do it for us. Then we’ll all be “cheerful.”

Sounds positive about him, hmmmm?


1,191 posted on 02/22/2012 7:48:49 PM PST by LUV W (This space reserved for a hero............my AF son........)
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To: Toespi
—>>Ricky just whined to Greta that he was “double teamed” tonight. Lol. Wait till Obama and the MSM get him, he will fold like an accordion.

I agree. Newt is double teamed all of the time-with all of the candidates, the GOP and their allies, by the leftists, and by the leftists media. Newt can win; Rick will not be able to stop Obama. The proof came tonight.

1,192 posted on 02/22/2012 7:48:49 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
My opinion of Rickmitt Santomney is written in stone from here on out! GOOOOOO NEWT!!!!!!!! Hope this does it!

Sorry, PSYCHO-FREEP. It needs to be in BOLD

Like this:

GOOOOOO NEWT!!!!!!!!

1,193 posted on 02/22/2012 7:49:59 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: tet68

No. she aint changin.
Never trust her, but listen to her.


1,194 posted on 02/22/2012 7:50:49 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: All

President: Newt Gingrich

VP: Rick Perry or Jim DeMint

Sec of State: John Bolton

Sec of Defense: Allen West

Sec of Treasury: Ron Paul

Sec of Energy: Sarah Palin

Sec of HHS: Rick Santorum

Attorney General: Greta VanSusteren-— I know, heads will explode or people will die laughing... but I think she is determined, hard-working and honest. With her law AND reporting background—I think she could smell out corruption big time.


1,195 posted on 02/22/2012 7:50:49 PM PST by Irenic
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To: TheZMan
I’ve grown very tired of Beck lately and listen to music on the way to work instead.

I cancelled my sub to his new show 2 months ago - and never looked back. I really cannot listen to him anymore.

I have a feelig he won't have his show by this time next year.

1,196 posted on 02/22/2012 7:50:49 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: tet68

When ever Newt began to speak, you could almost hear a pin drop. The audience was riveted by his every word. And the wisdom flowed like a fine wine...........That’s the Newt we love and know! God help us if this stupid party lets him slip away!

I truly mean that.


1,197 posted on 02/22/2012 7:51:07 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I think you misunderstood my post...I AM for Newt, wholeheartedly...so let me ammend my comment...Newt is a PITBULL Statesman

There :-) Now I think we understand each other ;-)


1,198 posted on 02/22/2012 7:52:02 PM PST by MagUSNRET (I have always been proud of my country, it is my government that I am ashamed of!)
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To: Pinkbell

“his supporters are really some of the nastiest people I’ve come across on the internet”

Really? Have you surfed DU lately?

And I disagree with you. All IMO of course, but there are several sub-groups of conservatives, or more accurately sub-focuses of conservatism as a mindset. Some focus more on social, some focus more on foreign policy, etc. I find that the ones readily supporting Newt and laughing at Santorum are “all of the above”, as in no aspect of conservatism is more important than any other - they all matter equally. With that mindset our responses to situations come across as terse, simplistic, and uncaring - while not really being any of the above because for us the response really is that simple. We want very strong, knowledgeable leaders first and foremost.


1,199 posted on 02/22/2012 7:52:15 PM PST by TheZMan (Obama is without a doubt the worst President ever elected to these United States)
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To: Kenny
Yes and what would his seven children have cost the public schools to educate. It's not free despite the rumors, there's a high cost per student. So what Santorum got to educate his kids was offset by what he saved the public school.

Where to begin!

What pray tell did he "save" the public school? First of all the public school WANTS the money it gets per pupil, wants it more than anything, wants it like an addict wants crack.

Second, cyber schools are "free" to state residents because the govt (that'd be we the taxpayers) picks up the tab.

1,200 posted on 02/22/2012 7:52:49 PM PST by Lady Lucky ( Exposure to the Son may prevent burning.)
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