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GE “Forcing” Employees Into Chevy Volts
gas2.org ^ | 2/20/12 | Christopher Demorro

Posted on 02/22/2012 11:04:13 PM PST by Lmo56

General Motors and General Electric are two companies that have been in the political crosshairs lately. GM stands accused of “crony capitalism,” while GE is under fire for paying no Federal income taxes in 2010. The two companies share more than that though, with GE placing an order for 12,000 Chevy Volts and other hybrid vehicles.

A memo leaked to Green Car Reports lays out GE’s plans for their new fleet of Volts, and as expected, it has some people crying foul.

The memo, sent to employees of GE Healthcare Americas team explains that all sedan, crossover, and minivan purchases in 2012 will be replaced by the Chevy Volt. Only field engineers are excepted from having to drive a company Volt.

GE will offer estimates for installation Level 2 Charging Stations, though all-gas use will be allowed when there is no electric option. Any employees who opt out of the Volt program will not be compensated for their expenses. Those who do choose to drive the Volt will be reimbursed for public charging and home charging costs, in addition to gas uses.

While some people are probably put off by having to drive a Volt, GE claims to have crunched the numbers and believes that in the long term, this will save the multi-national company big bucks. More than that though, GE is positioning itself as a big player in the EV charging market. Getting employees into Volts also means getting charging stations into homes.

It’s a bold move to be sure, and it will hopefully prove to be a boon to the Volt’s flagging sales numbers. GM had hopped to sell as many as 60,000 Volts in 2012, before dropping that number to 45,000. Will they even make that number though? Hard to tell, though GE’s business will go a long way towards giving the Volt some sales momentum.


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It’s a bold move to be sure, and it will hopefully prove to be a boon to the Volt’s flagging sales numbers. GM had hopped to sell as many as 60,000 Volts in 2012, before dropping that number to 45,000.

60,000 ??? 40,000 ??? They BARELY sold 10,000 in 2011 - AND MOST OF THAT WAS GUB'MENT SALES !!!

If they sold 5,000 to private owners in 2011, they are looking for a 1200% increase ]@60,000] or an 850% increase [@ 45,000] for 2012 ???

What kind of good drugz are they doin' ??? The 1960's must have been very, very good to them ...

1 posted on 02/22/2012 11:04:18 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56

PETA must’ve convinced them it was cruel to use real Guinea pigs in this “safety experiment”.


2 posted on 02/22/2012 11:09:17 PM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: Salamander
PETA must’ve convinced them it was cruel to use real Guinea pigs in this “safety experiment”.

AND, I have heard [but cannot confirm] that the Chevy Volt REQIURES premium gas ...

3 posted on 02/22/2012 11:11:34 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Lmo56

Must own stock in the coal industry...


4 posted on 02/22/2012 11:23:46 PM PST by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Lmo56

At what point will The One decree that everyone must buy the Volt? No other vehicle will be allowed on the roadways.


5 posted on 02/22/2012 11:28:06 PM PST by animal172 (Calling the Founding Fathers!! We need your help.)
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To: Lmo56

I would take one if my company gave me one free.


6 posted on 02/22/2012 11:29:32 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Lmo56
GM had hopped to sell as many as 60,000 Volts in 2012,

I guess hope and change means hoping through hoops.

7 posted on 02/22/2012 11:35:39 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Lmo56
GM had hopped to sell as many as 60,000 Volts in 2012,

I guess hope and change means hop(p)ing through hoops.

8 posted on 02/22/2012 11:35:53 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Lmo56

Our Harleys get premium.

The truck and car take whatever they can get....LOL

Most new cars “need” premium, so I’ve been told.

They were built to run on it and something dreadful happens if they’re deprived.

I dunno because ours are old...;D


9 posted on 02/22/2012 11:40:08 PM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: rawhide
By free, do you also mean the upgraded electrical service at you house to recharge the beasty over night... every night?
10 posted on 02/22/2012 11:45:58 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: Lmo56
Only field engineers are excepted from having to drive a company Volt.

Isn't that interesting! I wonder why? Could it be because a field engineer needs to get where he's going when he needs to get where he is going?

11 posted on 02/22/2012 11:59:55 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

The Volt will take you where you want any time you want and go as long as you want it to.

Once the battery is discharged it just fires up the gas engine to run the electric motor and charge the battery.

For the field guys it’s more.. Where do we put our tools, ladders and stock of spare parts? Volts do not offer the space for this.


12 posted on 02/23/2012 12:10:56 AM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

keyboard spew alert


13 posted on 02/23/2012 12:34:12 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: cableguymn
Once the battery is discharged it just fires up the gas engine to run the electric motor and charge the battery.

I imagine that's the way most of them will be used. I'm no physicist or chemist, but it seems to me that there's got to be entropy involved in going from gasoline to battery power, when a conventional car goes straight from gasoline. The whole concept sounds rather pointless. Even if you're going straight battery, the electricity has to be generated from something, and at present, that something is fossil fuel. So you're not saving any fuel, you're getting less efficiency from your fuel by turning it into electricity, you're not doing anything for the environment, and you're paying two to three times as much for the vehicle. I wish I were as smart as a GE executive; then I'd understand how this is all supposed to work.

14 posted on 02/23/2012 12:42:27 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: animal172
At what point will The One decree that everyone must buy the Volt? No other vehicle will be allowed on the roadways.

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dream on1

15 posted on 02/23/2012 12:54:06 AM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Salamander

“Most new cars “need” premium, so I’ve been told.

They were built to run on it and something dreadful happens if they’re deprived.”

Yes, it is dreadful. Their front ends jump up and stamp their tires. THUMP, THUMP, THUMP! Just like the spoiled brats raised by liberals.

Hey, they “volted” for it and they got it. I’m getting a bicycle.


16 posted on 02/23/2012 2:13:02 AM PST by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Only field engineers are excepted from having to drive a company Volt. Isn't that interesting! I wonder why? Could it be because a field engineer needs to get where he's going when he needs to get where he is going? No. It's because the Field Engineers need to get WHERE they need to be and tote tools and hardware around. Most have gas guzzling trucks.
17 posted on 02/23/2012 2:14:33 AM PST by wizwor
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To: Lmo56

It is called crony Communism.


18 posted on 02/23/2012 2:18:10 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Salamander

“Row” it’s such a simple word.


19 posted on 02/23/2012 2:22:16 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Lmo56

"Ve vill call it za "People's Car", mein Furher!"

20 posted on 02/23/2012 2:30:24 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Funny, that was the one thing that really jumped out at me too.


21 posted on 02/23/2012 3:04:43 AM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: Lmo56

Who was it who asked if one could install a gun rack into a Chevy Volt?

(Answer: You can’t. The Volt is too small.)

And who was it who asked why anyone would buy a car with the equivalent of one gallon of gasoline stored in it? On one charge, the Volt will carry you about the same distance as one gallon of gasoline, he said.


22 posted on 02/23/2012 3:37:56 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Lmo56

Sounds like Obama’s enforcers are putting the strong arm on his cronies to prop up his failed projects to juice the numbers before election day.


23 posted on 02/23/2012 3:45:19 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: kitkat

LOLOL!

My Harley gets 40+ seriously fun mpg.
[more than a stupid “Smart car”]

Volt can bite me.

;D


24 posted on 02/23/2012 3:51:34 AM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: savedbygrace

Just another Government Scam. GE makes millions from Government contracts to give to Government Motors. GM gets the Government Subsidy for each Volt. GE saves Government Taxes by using “loopholes”. If you’re part of the “in crowd” of this Administration, Life is Wonderful!!!


25 posted on 02/23/2012 3:51:42 AM PST by radioone
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To: Portcall24

Bwahahahahahaaaaaaa!

That always kills me.


26 posted on 02/23/2012 3:52:55 AM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: Lmo56

I have trouble with people that need their company to buy them a car - I’m grown up to buy my own car.

As far as the cost of driving goes, for the few GE people that might really put on a lot of miles for the company, they can buy a small, cheap, import and not have to put up with that crap. The rest of the people should suck it up and drive their own cars when needed.


27 posted on 02/23/2012 4:01:49 AM PST by BobL (I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“I’m no physicist or chemist,”

That much is obvious.


28 posted on 02/23/2012 4:11:01 AM PST by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: Lmo56

Does GE buy you a new garage when one of those suckers lights up when you’re recharging it overnight?


29 posted on 02/23/2012 4:17:45 AM PST by Stosh
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To: Kellis91789

I’m assuming you know how to make a dollar out of fifteen cents.


30 posted on 02/23/2012 4:20:08 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: cableguymn

I like the “we” in your post. Is that “we” as in general consumers or “we” as in field engineers?


31 posted on 02/23/2012 4:20:19 AM PST by healy61
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To: BobP

Great picture. Will say I never noticed The One had an ego. /sarc


32 posted on 02/23/2012 4:28:33 AM PST by animal172 (Calling the Founding Fathers!! We need your help.)
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To: Cincinatus

At least the People’s Car was a real car.


33 posted on 02/23/2012 4:29:39 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: animal172
At what point will The One decree that everyone must buy the Volt? No other vehicle will be allowed on the roadways.

wouldn't that make it the Obamafurhers "voltswagen"?

CC

34 posted on 02/23/2012 4:33:15 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (Wisdom comes from experience. Experience comes from a lack of wisdom.)
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To: Lmo56

>>GE claims to have crunched the numbers and believes that in the long term, this will save the multi-national company big bucks.

B.S.

Show us the numbers. They aren’t that complicated.

This is a political payback to Obama for bailing out GE Capital.


35 posted on 02/23/2012 4:48:53 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: animal172

At what point will The One decree that everyone must buy the Volt? No other vehicle will be allowed on the roadways.

Once SCOTUS rules ZeroCare can mandate healthcare for all, then DHHS will slip into one of the thousands of as yet unwritten parts of ZeroCare that that we all must buy ZeroCars aka Volts.

Shortly after that, most coal-fired power plants will be closed by the EPA, and rolling brown and black outs will become a national feature.

ZeroCars can only be charged on alternate days of the week - providing power demand is low on that day - and your licence plate begins with the weekly designated letter or numeral.

You can see where this goes from there.


36 posted on 02/23/2012 4:49:01 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Lmo56

Yesterday evening I was sitting on my patio (while quaffing some Coronas) watching a neighbor about 2 houses down mowing her lawn with an electric lawnmower.

It was was absolutely painful to watch. The grass was a little high and the piece of junk didn’t have the power to cut it. It went on for about an hour before she finally finished her small back yard. Half of the time she was busy moving the electric cord and the rest of the time she was going over already cut grass to try to mow the pieces that stuck up after her “green” lawnmower failed to cut.

If she had a battery operated mower it would have crapped out at the first dog poop she ran over in the yard.

All of this electric Eco-friendly garbage is pure speculation. It only works if you have a backpack that carries a 5KW generator for backup.


37 posted on 02/23/2012 5:14:43 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Son House
Must own stock in the coal industry...

Doesn't GE build the turbines that electric plants use to generate electricity? Just sayin' ... .

38 posted on 02/23/2012 6:03:00 AM PST by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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To: Lmo56

Stupid, stupid headline. ALL companies “force” employees into whatever the company car is. The police department “forced” me into a Chevy Caprice (the bastards).

They didn’t force any employee to buy a Volt, they are just buying them for the fleet.

Bad decision? Maybe, maybe not. Personally, I wouldn’t buy one.

But the blogger headline was stupid, as it typical for bloggers.


39 posted on 02/23/2012 6:07:42 AM PST by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: Son House

“Must own stock in the coal industry.”

Very funny. Almost as funny as this bit of information I found on plugincars.com:

“Hello- I’m a GM tech who just completed some training on the LUU 1.4l engine that will be in the Volt. to Tom- I asked that same question regarding how much fuel would be burned during a fuel maintenance mode and the answer I got was that the Volt’s computer systems calculate the average age of the fuel in the tank, If the average age reaches roughly 1 year, the engine will burn the stale fuel and “prompt a refueling event” in other words, run it out or close to out of gas. That is “Fuel Mantenance” mode. If the engine goes roughly 6 weeks without starting, then it will enter “Engine maintenance mode” and run for about 10 minutes to keep everything lubricated inside the engine. Given that, I wold imagine it to be pretty rare to have the average age of the fuel in the tank be over 1 year. I’m sure all of this is subject to change, but this is how we GM techs were recently taught.”

Seems like the Volt will burn your old fuel for you even when not using it. Must buy stock in coal industry.


40 posted on 02/23/2012 6:39:38 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Lmo56
AND, I have heard [but cannot confirm] that the Chevy Volt REQIURES premium gas ...

Recommends, but not requires. The engine computer will retard mentally challenge the timing for lower octane, which will reduce overall economy.

This article dances around the subject, but never actually mentions using regular gas: GM Says Chevy Volt Will Require Premium Gas; Fuel Costs 10% More Than Regular

This article does mention both can be used, but that regular will degrade mileage, and may cause more engine noise: Does the Chevy Volt Require Premium Fuel? Yes and No

41 posted on 02/23/2012 6:58:11 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Larry Lucido
They didn’t force any employee to buy a Volt, they are just buying them for the fleet.

Yes.

My local conservative radio host was saying this morning that GE is making their employees buy these cars for private use. So much misinformation out there.

No wonder people get turned off to politics and just give up.

42 posted on 02/23/2012 7:00:58 AM PST by trailhkr1
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To: Salamander
Most new cars “need” premium, so I’ve been told.

They were built to run on it and something dreadful happens if they’re deprived.

Untrue. Use only the fuel recommended. Putting premium fuel in a car that requires only regular unleaded simply costs you more, and may actually reduce your mileage. The octane is higher, and the fuel will require higher temps/pressures to combust. In order to do this, the engine's computer will adjust the timing of the ignition and that may actually work against you in a car designed for regular alone.

Unless they actually call for premium in the manual, don't use it.

43 posted on 02/23/2012 7:01:43 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Lmo56
A gallon of gasoline is the energy equivalent of 33 kWh of electricity. My electric bill has me paying 0.15/kWh, so 33 kWh would cost 4.95. Granted, the gas engine is only 30% efficient, but it seems this only makes sense when gasoline is above $4/gal (which may be Obama's plan)
44 posted on 02/23/2012 7:15:17 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: healy61

I have dusted off all my computer tools and converted my delivery van to a rolling computer/network shop. I contract with 3 different “markets” for work.

I stay plenty busy. I’m working on refreshing some of my credentials. Being MCSE certified from the windows 95 days does not really impress anyone anymore ;)


45 posted on 02/23/2012 8:16:09 AM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: Salamander
Most new cars “need” premium, so I’ve been told.

Mine does not (2012 Hyundai Accent). Supposedly gets 35-40 mpg on *regular* unleaded. Not sure if I believe that totally, so I'll be monitoring the fuel usage to see how accurate that is...

the infowarrior

46 posted on 02/23/2012 9:32:11 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

My buddy has one. He lives about 15 miles from work. He bought his first tank of gasoline after 5 months of owning it. Gets to charge free @ work, probably on a charger paid for with “stim” funds, LOL.


47 posted on 02/23/2012 9:36:40 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Stosh

Do you have any evidence that home insurance cos are charging extra?


48 posted on 02/23/2012 9:38:28 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: cableguymn

You’re offering up facts again.
This isn’t allowed on FR when discussing the Volt, LOL.


49 posted on 02/23/2012 9:39:40 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: trailhkr1

That’s one reason I’m reluctant to send technically astute folks to FR. There is SO much misinformation and it is rarely challenged.


50 posted on 02/23/2012 9:42:57 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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