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GE “Forcing” Employees Into Chevy Volts
gas2.org ^ | 2/20/12 | Christopher Demorro

Posted on 02/22/2012 11:04:13 PM PST by Lmo56

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To: infowarrior

My Cruze runs on regular and it’s a turbo.


51 posted on 02/23/2012 9:44:10 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: nascarnation
I do have to admit the Volt does have cutting edge technology. I think the 3rd-4th generation of it will be more price competitive and have more features so it is more acceptable to the public.

I'm kinda torn about the gov't getting involved with rebates/bailouts etc. Not for it and hope it is not the norm but the comparable cars by Nissan and others are getting the same rebates and subsidized by their own gov't.s

We are damned no matter what we do in this particular case.I don't want to see US industry(even GM) get behind other countries and have to buy their technology. I want US companies having the lead with patents and R&D.

Volt kinda reminds me of the 69 Zl-1 Camaro where the dealers where charged the full manufacturing cost of the day. ZL-1's were something like $8000 back then which was just insane.

52 posted on 02/23/2012 11:39:21 AM PST by trailhkr1
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To: IYAS9YAS

I haven’t seen a car in a long time that runs on plain unleaded.

[but I’d never buy a *new* car so who knows what they need, nowadays]

I think my ‘73 Saab 96 will run on kerosene and lard but I’m not sure....;D


53 posted on 02/23/2012 1:13:40 PM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: infowarrior

I hate to admit it but Hyundai makes some really nice vehicles.

Good to know they haven’t enslaved you to the highest gas prices possible.

:)


54 posted on 02/23/2012 1:16:06 PM PST by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind)
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To: trailhkr1
I do have to admit the Volt does have cutting edge technology. I think the 3rd-4th generation of it will be more price competitive and have more features so it is more acceptable to the public.

The PROBLEM is the battery technology - UNTIL they can develop a battery that gets say 3x the equivalent of a gallon of gas, it won't be there.

AND, that new technology IS NOT on the horizon yet ...

55 posted on 02/23/2012 2:00:05 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: nascarnation
My buddy has one. He lives about 15 miles from work. He bought his first tank of gasoline after 5 months of owning it. Gets to charge free @ work, probably on a charger paid for with “stim” funds, LOL.

Bully for him. Truth is MOST people DON'T have that luzury ...

The average person has to shell out about $2500 for THEIR OWN 120V charger - but it takes 8 hours to charge. If they want a quicker charge, the 220V charger costs about $4000. And, these ARE NOT eligible for a government rebate ...

Going further, assuming your buddy's 30-mile round-trip per day and a 1-gallon equivalent for the battery, it requires almost a FULL charge of the battery per day.

Your buddy might even EXCEED the battery's charge if he uses the heater and/or AC [depending on the temp]. BTW, BOTH the heater and the AC SUCK in the Volt anyway. And, if he likes to listen to the radio - and God forbid it is snowing or raining - gotta use the wipers. And, lets not forget the headlights ...

Tests have shown that using the heater, radio, headlights, and the wipers when it is raining on a cold day REDUCES the battery's gas equivalent to about 20 MPG ...

Assuming a 20-day work month, and 30 miles round-trip per day, that is 600 miles. If it costs $4 a day to charge the battery, that is $80 per month.

In contrast, gas [at $4 per gallon] yields 20 gallons. My car gets 40 MPG, so I get 800 miles for the same price as the Volt. I also got 33% MORE miles to play with for the same cost ...

One last thing, hopefully you don't live in an area where there is teenage vandalism - having an outside charger/cord is just INVITING trouble ...

56 posted on 02/23/2012 2:33:07 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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having an outside charger/cord is just INVITING trouble He raises Rottweilers. Doesn't seem to have home security issues.
57 posted on 02/23/2012 3:14:36 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Lmo56

except in his example he is only paying for gas. Not the electricity. Making his volt cheaper (for him) to operate.

Someone is picking up the tab for the electricity used to recharge that volt. If it’s his employeer that cost is sent on to the customers of that company.

If it’s paid for with tax dollars I’d like to know where he is so I can properly bill him.

Matter of fact, I don’t care WHO is paying for the electricity. He’s not paying his “fair share” of the road use tax. Where is he? I have a bill for him.


58 posted on 02/23/2012 6:33:03 PM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: nascarnation

having an outside charger/cord is just INVITING trouble He raises Rottweilers. Doesn’t seem to have home security issues.


Does he train the dogs to hold umbrellas? Just wonder’n..


59 posted on 02/23/2012 6:34:00 PM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: cableguymn

Call me clueless but I don’t understand your comment??


60 posted on 02/23/2012 6:38:03 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: nascarnation

charging station out side.. electricity... water...


61 posted on 02/23/2012 6:52:53 PM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: cableguymn

As long as things are installed and grounded properly, it works. I know when I was up in Northern Canada they had 220 volt plug-ins for vehicle heaters (100 ton mining trucks).
My buddy has his charger in the garage I think, but mostly he charges at work for free, probably on taxpayer tab.


62 posted on 02/23/2012 6:57:50 PM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Of course.


63 posted on 02/23/2012 7:06:38 PM PST by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: nascarnation

The question is... Is the volt properly grounded?


64 posted on 02/23/2012 7:35:02 PM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: Salamander
I hate to admit it but Hyundai makes some really nice vehicles.

Good to know they haven’t enslaved you to the highest gas prices possible.

:)

I also got a $500.00 rebate for being an honorably discharged veteran, which I thought was a really nice gesture on their part...

the infowarrior

65 posted on 02/23/2012 9:18:32 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: Lmo56

Electric cars are a scam when it’s sold as “good for the enviornment” when close to 70% of electricity in the US is created through burning coal.

Liberals are so stupid they can’t even understand they hate their own ideas. To fully use the idea of electric cars we would need a bigger grid (screw the snail darters) and most of our power coming from nuclear reactors which they hate because of their indoctrination over the last 35 years (and a badly written and acted movie).

Geez, when are people going to just start shunning liberals? Quit hiring them. Quit serving them in your store or your restaurant or gas station or hotel. Make sure your kids bully theirs! lol


66 posted on 02/23/2012 9:25:18 PM PST by Fledermaus (I can't fiddle so I'll just open a cold beer as I watch America burn.)
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To: cableguymn
He’s not paying his “fair share” of the road use tax. Where is he? I have a bill for him.

There was a thread the other day with the subject of Washington State considering a $100 fee for owners of electric vehicles since they are buying less gas - thus paying less state tax for road use maintenance ...

I posted as to whether Washington State would impose a fee on the people WHO DON'T OWN electric vehicles - since they DON'T use EXTRA electricity to charge their cars and, thus, DO NOT generate EXTRA state tax for Washington State's coffers ...

67 posted on 02/24/2012 4:33:22 AM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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I HIGHLY doubt the tax on the electricity is remotely cost to what is charge (by the state) per gallon.

That dog don’t hunt.


68 posted on 02/24/2012 6:53:08 AM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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