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Life After An EMP Attack: No Power, No Food, No Transportation, No Banking And No Internet
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/life-after-an-emp-attack-no-power-no-food-no-transportation-no-banking-and-no-internet ^

Posted on 02/23/2012 8:49:06 AM PST by chessplayer

Most Americans do not know this, but a single EMP attack could potentially wipe out most of the electronics in the United States and instantly send this nation back to the 1800s. If a nuclear bomb was exploded high enough in the atmosphere over the middle part of the country, the electromagnetic pulse would fry electronic devices from coast to coast. The damage would be millions of times worse than 9/11. Just imagine a world where nobody has power, most cars will not start, the Internet has been fried, the financial system is offline indefinitely, nobody can make any phone calls and virtually all commerce across the entire country is brought to a complete stop. A nation that does not know how to live without technology would be almost entirely stripped of it at that point. Yes, this could really happen. An EMP attack is America's "Achilles heel", and everyone around the world knows it. It is only a matter of time before someone uses an EMP weapon against us, and at this point we are pretty much completely unprepared.

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Scary stuff. Millions would die of starvation and exposure to the elements. And those who had stockpiled food, etc., for such an event would be overwhelmed by large numbers who be after it.
1 posted on 02/23/2012 8:49:08 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Scary stuff indeed. We’ve been talking about this for years...it’s criminal that nothing has been done so far to start prepring for such an attack. It’s not as though the world ISN’T full of enemies who hate us.


2 posted on 02/23/2012 8:51:37 AM PST by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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To: chessplayer

Prepper=Food Bank.


3 posted on 02/23/2012 8:52:07 AM PST by moehoward
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


4 posted on 02/23/2012 8:52:51 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Ping.


5 posted on 02/23/2012 8:53:45 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: chessplayer

As far as I know, iron and steel guns and gunpowder, lead and brass will still work. Can openers, camp cooking stoves, batteries and kerosine lamps will also work...it’s a matter of how prepared you are.


6 posted on 02/23/2012 8:54:21 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Kartographer

BTW, please add me to your weekly ping list.


7 posted on 02/23/2012 8:54:35 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: chessplayer

Many years ago the HORROR was the explosion of a Cobalt Bomb!

A single bomb would make the earth sterile and everyone would die. Where is the cobalt bomb today? I guess the hype is now the EMP bomb.

Has the EMP bomb actually been tested over a large area? Do they really know exactly what its capabilities are? Have they ever exploded one in the atmosphere?

I would venture NO. Once again, the lemmings are running in fear over something that has not been proven as destructive as the fear mongers state.


8 posted on 02/23/2012 8:57:44 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: chessplayer

My family would be pretty self sufficient except for the medicines. I have one, without which I will die. Prescription only, and I’ve squirreled away a months supply, by not taking it a day now and then, but anything over about 30 days and and its curtains for me.


9 posted on 02/23/2012 8:57:55 AM PST by cotton
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To: pgkdan

Russia and China don’t need thousands or hundreds of nukes. Just one would be sufficient to completely destroy this country.


10 posted on 02/23/2012 8:58:03 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: moehoward

—Prepper=Food Bank.—

Well, I live about 80 miles from the nearest city. The unwashed hordes would have to walk or bicycle through a lot of people like me to get here. It would cull the herd.

Here is a good take on what might happen, even though in his scenario the cause is economic, so people still have their cars and power. Not that it matters:

http://www.grandpappy.info/honehour.htm


11 posted on 02/23/2012 8:58:07 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: chessplayer

I also see it will make computers impossible to use.
How will this differ from using Windows Vista?


12 posted on 02/23/2012 8:59:41 AM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: cotton

Some meds you can order 3 months’ supply, you might check into that.


13 posted on 02/23/2012 8:59:57 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: chessplayer

It is scary stuff and is just one of the reasons why I garden with heirloom seeds, dehydrate and can things I can get my hands on from my garden or from sales.I do have some concept of what it would be like,My biggest concern would be my insulin.I have about a year unhand but after that is where the problem comes in....


14 posted on 02/23/2012 8:59:59 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: pgkdan

I wouldn’t be surprised if our own government did it.


15 posted on 02/23/2012 9:00:08 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chessplayer

Most cars will start, their bodies will act as a Farady cage, even the Navy did tests on current cars and most will still run although some did exhibit problems with their gauges. I think EMP has been overblown to a 1970’s era Irwin Allen disaster movie proportions. I think we are making an 800 lbs gorilla out of a 500 lbs one. Still I think the huge threat is to the power grid itself, your car will run, your transistor radio will still work but unless you have a generator, a 12v pump and/or a handpump, you will not be pumping gas.


16 posted on 02/23/2012 9:01:12 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Send Obama back to the ghetto, November 6th.)
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To: cotton

That may be the 30 most free living days of your life... ;)


17 posted on 02/23/2012 9:02:14 AM PST by MNlurker
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To: cuban leaf

Well, I live about 80 miles from the nearest city. The unwashed hordes would have to walk or bicycle through a lot of people like me to get here. It would cull the herd.


That will be able to go as far as a stolen old vehicle will carry them.


18 posted on 02/23/2012 9:02:21 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: chessplayer
I could be wrong but, like Man Made Globul Warming, no one has been able to convince me that this level of catastrophe would be the case. I have never seen proof that EMP can so affect a system that is designed and built with surge protection belt and suspenders so robustly.

I understand how electricity works and understand how an EMP affects the actual charge in a system (spike up/down). But that doesn't make stuff “Blow up” and ruin everything. Replace fuses, throw switches and start turning stuff back on.

Sure, there would be a lot of damage. But I suspect the blast, heat and bright light would do far more concerning damage than folks being without power for up to a couple weeks.

I could be wrong on all of this. But I have asked several to show me, beyond the theoretical, an instance, experiment or happenstance that would support the theory that one nuclear warhead detonated at the right altitude of the US would destroy all our electronics. It sounds sexy and seems to sell well. It has drama and intrigue. But, like tidal waves from global warming, I hold some skepticism until there is some “real” scientific evidence.

19 posted on 02/23/2012 9:03:21 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: DH
Exactly right. I bet I am one of a handful of Freepers that have actually worked on, around, and in nuclear weapons with the DOE NNSA/OST. EMP is real, however its effect is exaggerated.

Case in point, when people mention nuclear winter or EMP, I just casually mention the 2,000 nuclear weapons explosions under water, underground, in space, high altitude, low altitde, etc from the Sahara, to the Indian Ocean, the Artic, the Pacific, etc. Every continent less S. America and Antartica has had a nuke blown up on it, and guess what, we are still here.

We know that EMP is real, and its effects are real, however sending society back to 1837 ain't gonna happen. With that being said, I do have preparations for energy outages via Communist infiltrator POTUS's. That is alot bigger danger than an SS-18 flying over the pole and doing a high altitude, 25MT detonation.

20 posted on 02/23/2012 9:03:41 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Id rather have a man who wrecked his marriage as POTUS than a man who wrecked his country!)
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To: chris37
I wouldn’t be surprised if our own government did it.

You mean like it did on 9/11?
21 posted on 02/23/2012 9:04:09 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: chessplayer

There’s a vid on Youtube of a way to make a metal office supply cabinet into a faraday cage -

caveat - the guy doesn’t ground it, which is necessary, and of course, no one really knows whether any sort of shielding will do any good.


22 posted on 02/23/2012 9:05:25 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: DH

Nice. You beat me to it. See my post at #18 above.

I said essentially the same thing with less passion.


23 posted on 02/23/2012 9:05:39 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: Carl LaFong

Reminds me of my favorite Opus cartoon! Which I have hanging on the wall behind my computer at home.

http://www.thecomicstrips.com/store/add_strip.php?iid=9288


24 posted on 02/23/2012 9:06:34 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: DH
EMP effect was discovered during 1960s nuclear bomb testing. One bomb burned out part of the Hawaii power grid, over 800 miles away. That bomb was not specifically designed to create EMP. There are bombs today that are designed to cause EMP.

/johnny

25 posted on 02/23/2012 9:07:07 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: drjimmy

No, I don’t, but when one considers the government of this country, can one ever really be 100% sure?


26 posted on 02/23/2012 9:07:24 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Carl LaFong
How will this differ from using Windows Vista?

You deserve a nod for that. Pretty funny.

27 posted on 02/23/2012 9:07:44 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: Gaffer

Y2K the world ends.

LLS


28 posted on 02/23/2012 9:08:06 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: chessplayer

29 posted on 02/23/2012 9:08:09 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: chessplayer

Gosh, I hope the operating system on my M-1 Garand will still work and the computer chips on my Model 445 Minneapolis-Moline won’t be fried.


30 posted on 02/23/2012 9:09:22 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Carl LaFong
How will this differ from using Windows Vista?

I was about to post the same thing, but my computer froze up.

31 posted on 02/23/2012 9:09:53 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: chessplayer

While I agree there would be sever shortages,I think we underestimate the ability of farmers to bounce back.I grew up on farms surrounded by farmers.Every farmer I know has backup older equipmant that wouldnt be effected by an emp.Up to and including steam powered equipmant.We also forget the Amish communities.Inner cities would suffer the worst,But by the time they got done killing each other,The ones leaving with evil on thier minds best remember rural areas all hunt,and have fairly large aresenals of thier own.I would be more afraid of our governmant in that situation than I would any hordes of thugs.I think in the long run us Bitter Clingers would do just fine.


32 posted on 02/23/2012 9:10:33 AM PST by Craftmore
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To: chessplayer

All this EMP talk has convinced my wife we must buy a pre-electronic ignition car. Since she is stuck on getting a 1967-70 Cougar, I am okay with that. Might as well cruise the post-apocalyptic wasteland in style.


33 posted on 02/23/2012 9:11:20 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: chessplayer
That is why I live near a river, acreage, have a manual backup pump for my well, a septic system, etc...

We are also very well prepared to fend off the zombie city-dwelling hoards who might try and take what we have.

34 posted on 02/23/2012 9:11:34 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Tenacious 1

This article is total crap. It’s a good idea to keep supplies handy in case of any emergency. There is no need for sensationalistic nonsense.


35 posted on 02/23/2012 9:12:18 AM PST by EEGator
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To: DCBryan1
I worry more about solar flares, like the on in the 1850s that burned up telegraph lines, or the one in the 1960s that took out part of Canada's grid.

Our power distribution system is too fragile, and needs to be upgraded.

/johnny

36 posted on 02/23/2012 9:12:41 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Well, in a way you are correct. However, I still have the 7500 watt generator, the guns, the ammo, and a lot of other things that don’t deteriorate. The way things are going now, I’d say what’s coming will make fears of Y2K look like childish nightmares. You can laugh all you want, but we have a full fledged maniac in control of this country now, likely to be re-elected (for life).


37 posted on 02/23/2012 9:12:44 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: chessplayer

I don’t think it would affect me one bit. I certainly feel for those in cities and suburbs but my family and neighbors would be just fine. Simple country folk we are.


38 posted on 02/23/2012 9:12:52 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: chessplayer

Dont worry, our government will take care of us and make sure we’re all comfortable. /s


39 posted on 02/23/2012 9:16:20 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao << >> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I worry more about solar flares, like the on in the 1850s that burned up telegraph lines

The Carrington Event allowed telegraphy without applied electricity, but it didn't burn up the lines. Some telegraph paper caught fire and some operators got shocked.
40 posted on 02/23/2012 9:16:20 AM PST by aruanan
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To: chessplayer

The last days are described in Revelations and it says for 3 days the world will look at the slain prophets . . . Looks like TV, internet stay intact up until it’s almost all over anyway.


41 posted on 02/23/2012 9:16:43 AM PST by RushingWater (Let's have a brokered convention and page Sarah Palin)
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To: Tonytitan

Silence, infidel! The mighty mighty Cylons will crush your insolence for daring to question the Holy EMP!


42 posted on 02/23/2012 9:16:43 AM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: chessplayer

No FreeRepublic? This is series!


43 posted on 02/23/2012 9:16:48 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: DH

A Cobalt bomb though possible is impracticable. A nuclear bomb built to maximize EMP effect is both possible and practical. i.e. Neutron Bomb


44 posted on 02/23/2012 9:17:05 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: JRandomFreeper
There are bombs today that are designed to cause EMP.

Yes, according to OSINT nuclear warhead info, was that Russia had 25-50 EMP specific warheads, mainly to disrupt commo in the DC area, Kings Bay, Bremerton, Site R, Camp David, Omaha, Barksdale AFB, Whiteman AFB, and the LCC Minuteman facilities in the Dakotas.

Stay 100 miles away from silos and SLBM/bomber bases and you'll be ok ;) I'm not scared of nukes, they are just big explosives with a some nasty residual effects....I'm scared of the panic that misinformation causes and esp. Demoncrats being on the NCC and JCoS and executive branches.

45 posted on 02/23/2012 9:19:45 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Id rather have a man who wrecked his marriage as POTUS than a man who wrecked his country!)
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To: DH

Good point. While we were not as dependent on electronics at t he time, we need to remember that in the late 60’s and early 70’s, both the Soviets and the US conducted near-earth space detonations of nucs. No major disruptions were experienced as far as I know. I’m skeptical, but would rather not actually have the experience.


46 posted on 02/23/2012 9:20:24 AM PST by Afterguard
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To: chessplayer

We ought to test out the effects of an EMP attack over the nuclear facilities in Iran.


47 posted on 02/23/2012 9:21:25 AM PST by demsux (Obama: THE job destroyer)
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To: EEGator

From Heritage:

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2011/08/before-the-lights-go-out-a-survey-of-emp-preparedness-reveals-significant-shortfalls


48 posted on 02/23/2012 9:21:51 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: chessplayer
Russia and China don’t need thousands or hundreds of nukes. Just one would be sufficient to completely destroy this country.

Yes, but an EMP needs to be launched on a rocket. A rocket gives you a launch point. A launch point gives you a target. And EMP doesn't do a darn thing to a submerged sub. So while one EMP will wreck the US economy, a hundred or so Trident II D5 missiles are going to wreck the whole day of whoever launched it.
49 posted on 02/23/2012 9:21:51 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: FerociousRabbit
I don’t think it would affect me one bit. I certainly feel for those in cities and suburbs but my family and neighbors would be just fine. Simple country folk we are.

Same here, I don't worry too much about these kinds of scenarios. We are far from any large city, have ten acres among several hundreds of acres, within walking distance to a river for fishing, well water, septic tank, game is plentiful, deer, turkeys, rabbits, squirrels, enough wood for fuel to last us several lifetimes. Our neighbors are the same. And in Florida wear the climate is mild. Life would change, but it would go on fine.
50 posted on 02/23/2012 9:22:28 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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