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Pelosi: Catholic Church 'Has Not Enforced' Its Teaching on Contraception
CNS News ^ | 2/22/2012 | Eric Scheiner

Posted on 02/23/2012 2:00:05 PM PST by IbJensen

CNSNews.com) - During an event at Texas A&M University on Monday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) claimed the Catholic Church has not enforced its teaching on contraception and that the church now wants the federal government to enforce that teaching for it.

“Ninety-eight percent of women in childbearing age that are Catholic use contraception. So, in practice the church has not enforced this and now they want the federal government and private insurance to enforce it. It just isn’t consistent to me,” Pelosi said.

The statement came after Pelosi was questioned about the conflict between the Catholic Church and the Obama administration over a regulation, set to take effect on Aug. 1, that will require all health-care plans in the United States to cover sterilizations, artificial contraceptives and abortifacients, and thus would force Catholic institutions and individuals, in complying with the Obmacare mandate to buy health insurance, to act against their consciences and the teachings of their faith.

“Whatever my personal beliefs or my personal upbringing are on this subject everyone has their own responsibility in terms of the size and the rest of their family. So, I think this should be removed from the debate, it’s inflammatory--misrepresentations are made,” Pelosi added.

All 181 Catholic bishops in the United States oppose and have publicly denounced the regulation issued by the Obama administration, and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops have called it "an unprecedented attack on religious freedom."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
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Important video at link.

Sadly a majority of people in Pelosi's district think exactly like she does. Hence, that is why she has been there these many years and why California is going the way of Greece. I WILL NOT BAIL THEM OUT. CA deserves it's fate.

1 posted on 02/23/2012 2:00:08 PM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
The Catholic Church doesn't "enforce" anything.

Participation is strictly voluntary, unlike participation in federal government enslavement schemes.

2 posted on 02/23/2012 2:02:15 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to dismember anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: IbJensen

Just a few centuries ago, Pelosi would have been burned at the stake as a witch.

I guess they don’t burn them anymore.


3 posted on 02/23/2012 2:03:16 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: IbJensen

That’s interesting.

Would Pelosi like the Catholics to bring back the Iron Maiden?

I didn’t know Churches were supposed to ‘enforce’ anything.

I know, we can lop the heads off of any woman taking birth control pills.

Wait, Islam’s already copyrighted that bit.


4 posted on 02/23/2012 2:03:16 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: IbJensen

Queen Nancy will meet the same fate as Queen Jezebel, all we’re waiting for is a latter day Jehu.


5 posted on 02/23/2012 2:05:45 PM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: IbJensen
I'm afraid I must disagree that "people in Pelosi's district think like she does." No one "thinks" like that; it is not thinking at all.

Let's examine her premises: (1) The Church teaches that contraception is wrong; (2) Most Catholic women practice contraception; (3) The Church does not want to pay for contraception.

Her conclusion? The Church wants the Federal Government to enforce the Church's teaching that contraception is wrong.

Can anyone explain to me the reasoning here? How can her premises led to her conclusion? Is she really so lacking in intellectual capabilities?

It is frightening that such a hysterical ninny was legally second in line to become president.

6 posted on 02/23/2012 2:08:58 PM PST by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: IbJensen

Anyone who has attained the position of Speaker of the House, and then tells the American people in all seriousness that ‘we must pass the bill so we can find out what’s in it,’ is not someone that American voters should ever take seriously about anything.


7 posted on 02/23/2012 2:09:20 PM PST by Maceman (Liberals' only problem with American slavery is that the slaves were privately owned.)
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To: IbJensen
Photobucket Rev. Mother Superior would beg to differ we do teach contraception. Why just the other day Rev. Mother was teaching young single women how NOT to get pregnant while on a date. It is simple, while sitting hold a miraculous metal between your knees and don't let it fall out. It prevents pregnancy every time!
8 posted on 02/23/2012 2:10:40 PM PST by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

But the government will enforce its teaching on contraception. Before long it will also enforce its teaching on sodomy and abortion. You WILL do what we say. Princess Loonatune has totally lost her way.


9 posted on 02/23/2012 2:11:12 PM PST by taterjay
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To: P-Marlowe

“Just a few centuries ago”

If given a chance, I’d burn her tomorrow. The dried up prune would go up ..whooosh....!


10 posted on 02/23/2012 2:11:50 PM PST by y6162
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To: IbJensen
I thought their polling showed this was all good. Seems like they're still trying to spin their way out of it. Doesn't have anything to do with Gingrich reminding people about Obama’s pro-infanticide past does it? They might be taking a slow quiet walk away from the contraceptive topic now. Like, uh,...never mind.
11 posted on 02/23/2012 2:13:33 PM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: IbJensen
In the 21st Century, resuming enforcement of its teaching with pols like Pelosi would be an excellent place to start.


12 posted on 02/23/2012 2:15:25 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: y6162

Wouldn’t it be easier just to throw water on her?


13 posted on 02/23/2012 2:16:07 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: IbJensen

Even if the church itself was not self “enforcing” their belief, that is not grounds to be forcibly mandated to not support dogma.


14 posted on 02/23/2012 2:16:17 PM PST by BloodAngel
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To: IbJensen

Here’s an analogy that’s not too far-fetched. Suppose that one of Obama’s czars decides exactly what foods must be served at all institutions where children have lunch. Suppose further that they decide that pork has better nutritional value than beef, and must be served at least once a week. Do synagogues and mosques have to comply? Maybe just synagogues, since many professed Jews do not follow all of the dietary laws. Where does this end? (Hint—see Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, et al.)


15 posted on 02/23/2012 2:19:29 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (How bad would an Obama II administration be, without the constraints of re-election?)
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To: IbJensen

You really expect Fr. Flanagan and Sister Mary Grace to come bursting thru your bedroom door to check, Nancy??


16 posted on 02/23/2012 2:20:28 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: IbJensen

By calling it a “contraceptive” issue they re-frame the debate. Contraception is a personal choice. The real issue is aborting fetuses and the government dictating that some pharmacy must dispense the chemicals to abort human fetuses.


17 posted on 02/23/2012 2:24:11 PM PST by Rapscallion (The best way to enforce "fairness" is tyranny. Begone Obama.)
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To: IbJensen

Wonder if there were questions and answers during an OPEN forum? Why would anyone waste their time listening to unchallenged bile?


18 posted on 02/23/2012 2:24:31 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: IbJensen

The catholic church could start by excommunicating people like Pelosi, until they do she is partially correct.


19 posted on 02/23/2012 2:26:56 PM PST by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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To: Rapscallion
"The real issue is aborting fetuses and the government dictating that some pharmacy must dispense the chemicals to abort human fetuses."

Unfortunately most people are content with killing the unborn for convenience, hence why has abortion laws lingered for so long (Roe v. Wade is not amended to the Constitution).

No this round is about religious freedom and freedom of association. If we lose this battle, the whole war is lost.
20 posted on 02/23/2012 2:28:12 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: IbJensen
Why not enforce her out the door of the church.

It is like she is tempting the church to do just that.

What a fake phony fraud this women stands as a member of the Church.

21 posted on 02/23/2012 2:28:38 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace

“What a fake phony fraud this women stands as a member of the Church. “

She’s a “Kennedy Catholic”.


22 posted on 02/23/2012 2:35:00 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: IbJensen
I'm curious as to how Pelosi and other Dem pols can claim they are "Catholic" with a straight face.

I am not Catholic and my belief system lies much closer to Catholic theology than this bunch.

23 posted on 02/23/2012 2:35:26 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
One of the bishops who testified in the Congressional hearing last week gave a wonderful talk along the very lines you suggest, "The Parable of the Kosher Deli." http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/religious-liberty/upload/lori-testimony-for-oversight-on-religious-freedom-2012-02-16.pdf

A bit more bluntly, Instapundit put it something like this, "What if the government mandated that all mosques serve bacon. When Muslims objected, the media reacted by proclaiming that Muslims want to outlaw bacon."

24 posted on 02/23/2012 2:39:34 PM PST by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: IbJensen

Catholic Church enforcing ban....

PELOSI YOU’RE EXCOMUICATED .... there fixed that...


25 posted on 02/23/2012 2:47:51 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: IbJensen

The Church doesn’t enforce its teaching on not worshipping false gods, bearing false witness, stealing, coveting, etc., either, and it’s a good thing for Democrats that it doesn’t. Go soak your head, Nazi.

But seriously, folks, the real problem is that the Church, at least in the Western world, doesn’t TEACH its teaching on sexual morality in a comprehensive way. Yes, all the information is “out there”: “Humanae Vitae,” “Evangelium Vitae,” the Theology of the Body, and so on. But it seems this information doesn’t reach the majority of even those Catholics who are in church every week, let alone those “in name only.”


26 posted on 02/23/2012 2:50:30 PM PST by Tax-chick (I used to be difficult, but after watching 46 episodes of "Lie to Me," I'm impossible!)
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To: IbJensen

This lady is dumb as a rock.


27 posted on 02/23/2012 3:00:24 PM PST by therut
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wow.

And my liberal friends want to keep talking about how stupid Sarah Palin is.


28 posted on 02/23/2012 3:03:03 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: IbJensen

Ummh, Nancy - the Church teaches.

Actual enforcement is left to a later time and a Higher Power.


29 posted on 02/23/2012 3:06:14 PM PST by Stosh
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“Ninety-eight percent of women in childbearing age that are Catholic use contraception.

An urban legend perpetuated by foot soldiers in Lucifer's army.

30 posted on 02/23/2012 3:17:25 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: IbJensen

The old I-haven’t-been-excommunicated-yet-so-I-must-be-a-saint gambit.


31 posted on 02/23/2012 3:25:11 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Rapscallion
By calling it a “contraceptive” issue they re-frame the debate. Contraception is a personal choice. The real issue is aborting fetuses and the government dictating that some pharmacy must dispense the chemicals to abort human fetuses.

I was about to post a similar comment.
The real argument is with abortions and forcing churches (and other taxpayers) to support such abominations.
There is a valid issue that the First Amendment protects Religious institutions from being forced by the Government to take actions which are against their beliefs. In that respect the Roman Catholic church is correct to oppose the Obama's Administration actions regarding their being forced to fund of contraception.
But the argument should be focused on abortion.
The Obama administration and their allies are trying to force Christian institutions to support the worship of Molech (baby sacrifice)...

32 posted on 02/23/2012 3:43:27 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: IbJensen

Start by excommunicating Nanzi.


33 posted on 02/23/2012 4:06:45 PM PST by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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To: Martin Tell

Can anyone explain to me the reasoning here? How can her premises led to her conclusion? Is she really so lacking in intellectual capabilities?


Easy, she’s a f@#$%^& nut...


34 posted on 02/23/2012 4:13:33 PM PST by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: IbJensen

“You have to pass the bill to see what’s in it.”


35 posted on 02/23/2012 4:14:00 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: IbJensen
No doubt, 98% of Christian men have lusted after women other than their wives in their hearts (and the other 2% are gay, like Christ Matthews). That doesn't mean adultery is okay, just that we are imperfect. Similarly, the fact that many Catholics use birth control does not mean it is okay for the government to compel Catholics or members of any other faith who consider abortion (the killing of an innocent unborn child) to be murder to nonetheless pay for abortions.

The First Amendment takes legal precedence over any ruling from the Obama Administration's thugs, to just as great an extent as God's will takes precedence over the will of any person on earth. I no longer have any employees, thanks to big government, but if I did, I'd be cancelling their medical insurance at this point - feeling terrible about it, but not as bad as if I agreed to pay for the murder of an unborn child.

36 posted on 02/23/2012 4:48:49 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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