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Romney Goes Occupy: The '1%' Need to Pay 'More'
BigGovernment.com ^ | 2/23/2012 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 02/24/2012 6:00:49 AM PST by GVnana

The transcript, in relevant part:

I am going to lower rates across the board for all Americans by 20%. And in order to limit any impact on the deficit, because I do not want to add to the deficit, and also in order to make sure we continue to have progressivity as we’ve had in the past in our code, I’m going to limit the deductions and exemptions particularly for high income folks. And by the way, I want to make sure you understand that, for middle income families, the deductibility of home mortgage interest and charitable contributions will continue. But for high income folks, we are going to cut back on that, so we make sure the top 1% pay the current share they’re paying or more.

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What Kool Aid is Romney drinking?
1 posted on 02/24/2012 6:00:56 AM PST by GVnana
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To: GVnana

I didn’t think it was possible to be less enthusiastic about a candidate than I was with McCain last time. Unfortunately, it didn’t even take 4 full years to find someone worse.


2 posted on 02/24/2012 6:05:43 AM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: GVnana
This kind:


3 posted on 02/24/2012 6:06:33 AM PST by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: GVnana
.....not to worry, he'll be flippin around by Wednesday of next week, to clarify his statement. He is talking like Juan McWuss......has he ever said the name Barak Hussein Obama?. McWuss couldn't....
4 posted on 02/24/2012 6:07:51 AM PST by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: ilgipper

Yeah. Even though NY’s electoral votes are doomed to go to Obama, I will trudge down to the polling station to write in Gingrich, if Mittins tops the GOP ticket.


5 posted on 02/24/2012 6:08:50 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: GVnana

Then write the check Mitt!

Pray for America


6 posted on 02/24/2012 6:10:29 AM PST by bray (More Batting Practice for the Bambino)
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To: GVnana

Newt got hammered on Bain Capital (rightfully) but the MSM will not hardly mention this about Mitten’s.


7 posted on 02/24/2012 6:10:46 AM PST by mmanager (Reagan Revolution + Republican Revolution = Bury Obama in 2012 - Go Newt!)
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To: GVnana

they so look down on us, and patronize us

The little people making $50,000 as the “middle class?

someone kick romney in the ass and knock that silver spoon down his throat, but only AFTER he writes a check to the IRS for 39% of his sons’ 100 million trust fund


8 posted on 02/24/2012 6:11:25 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: GVnana
I'm not part of the 1%, but FUMR.

Several commentators have this right: when he tries to give a conservative answer, he really has to think about it. I believe it happens because his first thoughts are liberal.

9 posted on 02/24/2012 6:14:36 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: GVnana

Not to lend credence to Romney’s statement, but it occurs to me that this “1%” include people like Buffett, Gates, Kerry and any number of leftists who are constantly playing the class card.

Maybe we need to start challenging all these “do as I say, not as I do” lie-berals to start walking the walk that they are constantly talking about.


10 posted on 02/24/2012 6:16:00 AM PST by ssaftler (Obama 2008: "Hope and Change" Obama 2012: "Excuses and Blame")
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To: GVnana

Rush had a cow about Romney’s statement yesterday.

On his radio show Thursday, Rush pointed out that tax cuts do NOT increase the deficit.....they increase economic activity, and therefore bring in more money to the government.

When Reagan took office in January 1981, the IRS was raking in $500 billion per year. Eight years later, when Reagan left office, the IRS was taking in $950 billion per year.

Here’s hoping that Romney is NOT the nominee.


11 posted on 02/24/2012 6:20:30 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm NOT smitten' with Mittens)
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To: GVnana

Worse candidate that McCain


12 posted on 02/24/2012 6:21:10 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GVnana

I’ve got an idea:

If you didn’t pay any federal income taxes last year, you don’t get to vote in a federal election. Think that might change the political landscape?


13 posted on 02/24/2012 6:23:26 AM PST by econjack
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To: GVnana
Major faux pas for Romney. Did someone not tell him that during the nomination process--as a would-be Republican candidate--he's supposed to run to the right, not the left!

Just the fact that he's using the same language as the radical leftists does not bode well. Even hinting that a certain economic class of people should pay a certain amount, implicitly agrees with the whole premise of the OWS crowd AND Obama.

Mr. Romney, our country is not in the shape it's in because we have a revenue problem. It's in the shape it's in because we have a spending problem! Claiming this person or that person should pay an arbitrary "more" amount, supports a moving target.

It's like the scene from the Chevy Chase movie, "Vacation," where Clark Griswold asks "how much will his auto repairs cost?" The mechanic says, "how much you got?"

Finally, claiming that only 1% should pay more, is just the first step in an incremental claim against all of us. After insisting those at the very top pay more, it stands to reason that those in the top 5 or 10 percent are also doing much better than everyone else, and should be taxed more; soon, the top 49 percent are being asked to pay more.

14 posted on 02/24/2012 6:24:18 AM PST by Lou L (The Senate without a filibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
You don't have to limit the historical evidence to the Reagan tax cuts, either. Look at the Kennedy and Bush cuts. Also, look what's happened to Chile since they cut their income and corporate tax rates (15% max--who does the gov't think pays corporate rates...it ain't the corporation, stupid). Chile is the fastest growing economy in the world right now with a gov’t that's only sopping up 5% of GDP. And that's a country that was damn near communistic under Allende in the 70’s.
15 posted on 02/24/2012 6:27:54 AM PST by econjack
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To: ssaftler

I would rather take the microphone, rather than income or wealth, away from people like Buffett, Soros, Gates, etc. What gives a successful investor or businessman any particular credibility on policy issues, anyway, outside of the narrow interests of their business activities? Why should Congressional committees take testimony from actresses and basketball players?

I suppose it’s the nature of our decadent culture. The so-called “creative class” is just a self-congratulatory name for our modern version of the courtier class.


16 posted on 02/24/2012 6:29:06 AM PST by oblomov
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To: GVnana
also in order to make sure we continue to have progressivity as we’ve had in the past in our code,

He's telling you he's ONE OF THEM!

17 posted on 02/24/2012 6:29:40 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: GVnana

Yup. Obama-lite.

The Mormon version of Barry.
Clean and articulate.

And, just as destructive.


18 posted on 02/24/2012 6:29:46 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: GVnana

Romney has drunk the liberal kool aid. Romney is now and has always been a liberal. The only thing that has changed with Romney is that he is trying to convince people that his liberalism is actually conservative.


19 posted on 02/24/2012 6:30:01 AM PST by svcw (Only difference between Romney & BH is one thinks he will be god & other one thinks he already is.)
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To: GVnana

Who Pays Income Taxes and How Much?

Tax Year 2009 

Percentiles Ranked by AGI

AGI Threshold on Percentiles

Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid

Top 1%

$343,927

36.73

Top 5%

$154,643

58.66

Top 10%

$112,124

70.47

Top 25%

$66,193

87.30

Top 50%

$32,396

97.75

Bottom 50%

<$32,396

2.25

Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income
Source: Internal Revenue Service

Now: you may be aware that the top 1% paid 40% of all Federal income taxes in 2007. Why did their share drop to under 37% in 2009? Because the average annual income for the top 1% has dropped by over $66,000, thanks to Obama's brilliant economic policies. A falling tide sinks all boats.

20 posted on 02/24/2012 6:35:05 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: GVnana

PFL.


21 posted on 02/24/2012 6:36:15 AM PST by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: econjack

And the obverse must be true as well: you may choose to pay taxes, and if you do, you get to vote. If you choose not to pay taxes, you do not get to vote.

Unfortunately, our socialist masters pushed through the 24th Amendment to the Constitution in 1964. It specifically forbids poll taxes, effectively making voting rights a civil right rather than a privilege earned by becoming a true citizen.


22 posted on 02/24/2012 6:38:17 AM PST by oblomov
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To: GVnana
The leader of the free world will be elected based on taxes and gasoline?

Amazing.

23 posted on 02/24/2012 6:41:02 AM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: GVnana

Many deductions are already of little use to high income people due to the alternative minimum tax


24 posted on 02/24/2012 6:41:17 AM PST by Arthurio
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To: mmanager
“Newt got hammered on Bain Capital (rightfully) but the MSM will not hardly mention this about Mitten’s.”
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Good point ...and it wasn't just the media; it was the entire GOP-E and talk radio that hammered Newt when all he was questioning was the ethics of one company. Now Mitt suggests an anti-capitalistic systemic change to our tax code and we hear ...(crickets).

I do expect Rush will “weigh in” on this issue though; since he is pretty consistent on fiscal conservatism ...plus it will give him yet another chance to push Rick's campaign at Romney's expense. (Rush clearly likes Santorum best of the 4 remaining candidates.)

25 posted on 02/24/2012 6:54:10 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: andy58-in-nh
“A falling tide sinks all boats.”
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Thx for the “stats.”

I “get” the “inverted” analogy; however, in this case a “falling tide” more likely leaves all boats “holed” on the rocks or “grounded” on a sandbar. (smile)

26 posted on 02/24/2012 7:04:37 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: svcw

Ff


27 posted on 02/24/2012 7:04:47 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: ilgipper

romney... I will NEVER vote for that rat bastard liar.

LLS


28 posted on 02/24/2012 7:10:02 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Hey repubic elite scumbags... jam mitt up your collective arses!)
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To: GVnana

and the Establishment still wonders why they can’t get us on board the Mitt Train?


29 posted on 02/24/2012 7:10:57 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: liberalh8ter
The use of the term “folks” is a dead give away it's straight from Zippo.

We all know that “White folks greed leaves a world in need”.

When Zippo says “FOLKS” he really means “White folks” he just leaves “White “ off.

30 posted on 02/24/2012 7:11:27 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: GVnana
If that's what you believe, Mitt, then shut up, write your own damned check, and leave the rest of us alone. Trying to one up the democrats at their own stupid game is what got us in this f***ing jam in the first place.


31 posted on 02/24/2012 7:12:20 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: GVnana
The war cry of the RINO is the same scam as that pulled by the limousine-liberal Democrats.

Romney knows damned well that the 0.1% shelter most of their income in tax-exempt foundations. Hence, 'tax the rich' is targeted at the competition for the 0.1%, the lower upper class if you will. It is effectively a 'rich get richer' scheme. SOS

32 posted on 02/24/2012 7:20:27 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: oblomov
If you choose not to pay taxes, you do not get to vote.

Probably not a viable idea, since most people would choose not to pay taxes and take their chances with those who do. Not a wise idea, but probably what would happen.

Perhaps I'm still in favor of the poll tax in that sense. To me, I think it should simply be a condition of voting, just like you must be a US citizen to vote in Federal elections or a state resident for state elections.

In fact, I like Neil Bortz idea of: no federal income taxes, no vote, $1 - $10,000, one vote, $10,001-20,000, 2 votes, and so on up to a max of 5 votes on $50,000 in federal tax payments. The Constitution says voting is a right because you can fog a mirror on a piece of US soil...I understand that. (Hell, dead people have voted twice in Lake County, Indiana, thanks to Acorn.) My feeling is that voting is a right you earn by being a productive member of that society and have something in the pot representing a vested interest in what happens. If you're a parasite, all you want is more for yourself, and that's who politicians pander to.

33 posted on 02/24/2012 7:25:30 AM PST by econjack
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To: IMR 4350
Exactly. How anyone can't see that Mitt is Obama redux, is beyond me.
34 posted on 02/24/2012 7:26:32 AM PST by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: GVnana

Romney is no conservtive. Tax cuts do not increase the deficit. What a disaster he will be as our nominee repeating lies told by the left.


35 posted on 02/24/2012 7:32:26 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: ilgipper

Yeah, not only is Romney a social liberal, he is a fiscal liberal. First with his safety net comments, then minimum wage comments, and now this idea that tax cuts increase the deficit.


36 posted on 02/24/2012 7:34:39 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: GVnana

Who keeps voting for this guy??


37 posted on 02/24/2012 8:00:06 AM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: GVnana

Unelectable.


38 posted on 02/24/2012 8:10:47 AM PST by Mr. Peabody
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To: kosciusko51
It's funny how Romney can learn two decades worth of negative history about Newt and Santorum within a week, but it's been 5 years since his "conversion" and he still hasn't been able to "pick up" conservatism. The guy doesn't talk conservatism because he doesn't know or care about it. He's trying to pretend to be something he's not to win the power of the presidency, that's it.

And this talk about raising taxes on the rich shows that he is firmly in the Kerry/Buffett/Corzine camp of the wealthy economic liberal. Romney has also indicated before that he "can't" go out and talk about cutting taxes on the rich because he is rich, and he believes it would look bad. So he's blatantly doing the same thing liberals do, attacking the rich in order to try to get elected by everyone else. It's just somewhat shocking he can maintain establishment Republican support while doing this, although he did take a noticeable hit the day he talked about indexing the minimum wage to inflation. You could tell the establishment's enthusiasm decreased a bit that day, although it seemed to be on its way back up since then. Maybe this latest news will hurt it again.


39 posted on 02/24/2012 8:15:34 AM PST by JediJones (Watch "Gingrich to Michigan: Change or Die" on YouTube. Best Speech Ever!)
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To: econjack

Let’s not forget Santorum also wants the progressive tax with a 10% and 28% rate. Newt is the only flat tax guy left at 15% for everybody, unless you think Ron Paul can pull off the 0%.


40 posted on 02/24/2012 8:25:44 AM PST by JediJones (Watch "Gingrich to Michigan: Change or Die" on YouTube. Best Speech Ever!)
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To: JediJones
It's funny how Romney can learn two decades worth of negative history about Newt and Santorum within a week, but it's been 5 years since his "conversion" and he still hasn't been able to "pick up" conservatism. The guy doesn't talk conservatism because he doesn't know or care about it. He's trying to pretend to be something he's not to win the power of the presidency, that's it.

Add to that, being the first Mormon President (thus giving credibility and clout to the cult) and you've summed it up perfectly.

41 posted on 02/24/2012 8:28:33 AM PST by The Citizen Soldier (America needs Gingrich in 2012 about as much as England needed Churchill in 1940!)
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To: Carry_Okie
Romney knows damned well that the 0.1% shelter most of their income in tax-exempt foundations.

You mean the ones located in Swiss banks or the Cayman Islands? Yeah, I guess Romney would know about that.

42 posted on 02/24/2012 8:31:58 AM PST by JediJones (Watch "Gingrich to Michigan: Change or Die" on YouTube. Best Speech Ever!)
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To: econjack

43 posted on 02/24/2012 8:39:03 AM PST by JediJones (Watch "Gingrich to Michigan: Change or Die" on YouTube. Best Speech Ever!)
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To: GVnana
This is what happens when your new-found “Conservatism” is just a political strategy and not a set of core Conservative Principles.
44 posted on 02/24/2012 9:01:02 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Carry_Okie

Agreed,
I have no issue with raising taxes on trust fund libs.


45 posted on 02/24/2012 9:40:07 AM PST by hecht (Murray use your coaster)
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To: GVnana

Yo Mittster!
Everyone pays to much as it is!
The problem is we spend to much and the Gov is to big and inherently wasteful.


46 posted on 02/24/2012 10:23:57 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ssaftler

An ol Texas redneck called in on the radio this morning and said something profound.

He said that the very notion of “class” is unAmerican.
What makes America great is the notion that a rich man and a poor man are equal in the eyes of the law/Government.

Democrats and Republicans both push this notion of Class, which only causes envy and division among us.


47 posted on 02/24/2012 10:30:46 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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