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Santorum on Obama Pushing College for All Americans: "What a Snob"
Townhall.com ^ | February 25, 2012 | Erica Johnson

Posted on 02/25/2012 1:45:38 PM PST by Kaslin

Well said, Santorum -- well said. At a campaign stop in Michigan on Saturday morning:

Santorum On Obama 'What A Snob'

"Not all folks are gifted in the same way. Some people have incredible gifts with their hands... and want to work out there making things. President Obama once said, he wants everybody in America to go to college. What a snob. There are good decent men and women, who go out everyday to put their skills to test that aren't taught by some liberal college professor trying to indoctrinate them. Oh, I understand why he wants you to go to college -- he wants to remake you in his image. I want to create jobs so people can remake their children into their image, not his."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackobama; classwarfare; education; elitism; idiot; luddites; lunacy; safetynet

1 posted on 02/25/2012 1:45:53 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Rick schooling the Ivy League snob.


2 posted on 02/25/2012 1:47:35 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: Kaslin

Nice!


3 posted on 02/25/2012 1:49:38 PM PST by Thorliveshere
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To: CainConservative

Agreed. But he needs to keep repeating his message, rather than look for “sound bites”.

Hee needs to keep the pressure up and stay on message.


4 posted on 02/25/2012 1:51:09 PM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: Kaslin

Not the words of an establishment republican.


5 posted on 02/25/2012 1:51:56 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Kaslin

a snob?

yes he appears to be a snob....he acts the part well....

when he refuses to show his grades...and the only reason he passed his classes is because the leftist professors would NEVER FAIL A BLACK MAN!

so President Teleprompter has nothing to be snobbish about.


6 posted on 02/25/2012 1:52:02 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: CainConservative

bump


7 posted on 02/25/2012 1:52:22 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: CainConservative

Yes the world needs more worthless degrees in liberal arts.


8 posted on 02/25/2012 1:55:31 PM PST by org.whodat (Sorry bill, I should never have made all those jokes about you and Lewinsky, have fun.)
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To: 21twelve; Absolutely Nobama; AFPhys; afraidfortherepublic; AmericanInTokyo; ...
Santorum for President Ping List.

FReepmail “Antoninus” to be added or removed.

9 posted on 02/25/2012 1:57:55 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t like Santorum but that was good.


10 posted on 02/25/2012 1:58:47 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Kaslin

UMass has long had an “I Feel So Good About Myself For Sending Morons and Psychopaths To College!” Program. My first year there, way back in the 60s, we had two of these on our dorm floor. One was a psychopath who threw live cats off the 19th floor balcony to their deaths and liked to set fires in the dorm. The other operated on a junior high school level socially and academically. Both, of course, were gone after the first semester, but the Liberals felt so good about themselves! Today this program has been expanded to a “Doctorate in Social Justice and Victims’ Studies.”


11 posted on 02/25/2012 2:00:48 PM PST by pabianice (")
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To: Kaslin
We need to bring back apprenticeships and trade schools. I was talking to a cousin last night and realized that she thinks that factories are full of bustling robots being directed by computer geeks in air conditioned offices.

Even where robotics are used it still takes a fair number of people keeping them running and they don't need college degrees to do it. I'm living proof, a high school dropout who was a factory foreman who had to keep humans and robots operating. I didn't have formal classroom training, I had on the job experience and a natural curiosity.

The single best explanation of America's "Maker deficit" I've seen comes from the Discovery Channel's Mike Rowe.

Mike Rowe on Discovery, Realization and Lamb Castration
12 posted on 02/25/2012 2:02:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kaslin
“President Obama wants everybody in America to go to college,” Santorum said. “ What a snob!” The crowd laughed and applauded wildly. But the last time ...

________________

Flashback: 2006, Rick Santorum Wanted To Send All Pennsylvanians To College

13 posted on 02/25/2012 2:02:57 PM PST by anglian
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To: Kaslin
The myth that everyone needs a college degree needs to be debunked. High school guidance teachers have been "advising" students to take college prep classes for at least three generations.

Could it be an attempt of elitists to turn America into the white college utopia described in Mega Trends, a best seller in the 80s?

14 posted on 02/25/2012 2:03:17 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: Kaslin
The myth that everyone needs a college degree needs to be debunked. High school guidance teachers have been "advising" students to take college prep classes for at least three generations.

Could it be an attempt of elitists to turn America into the white college utopia described in Mega Trends, a best seller in the 80s?

15 posted on 02/25/2012 2:03:29 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: org.whodat

Don’t forget, people who are essentially in debt bondage to the Government are far easier to control...


16 posted on 02/25/2012 2:03:55 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Lazlo in PA

Santorum scares the bejabbers out of the libs, who are elitists to the core, as is Willard Romney. He will get votes that have been unavailable to the GOP candidate since Reagan.

Obama would lose white voters without a college education by titanic proportions that would be impossible for him to overcome in states like Ohio, Michigan and PA.

Obama badly wants to run against Romney who will not be able to get those votes and will likely do worse than McCain


17 posted on 02/25/2012 2:04:46 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: Kaslin

We should call most of them “Internment University”, with the only subject being “obama”...


18 posted on 02/25/2012 2:14:17 PM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: Kaslin
College is a big business.

Government schools are now factories designed to turn out fodder for colleges. Trade schools and High School shop courses designed to develop manual and technical skills have been largely abandoned.

Students who would never pass a college entrance exam two or three generations ago are now pushed into and through college. We now have the world's largest population of functionally illiterate college graduates barely competent to fill jobs as burger flippers. Meanwhile, jobs requiring technical training and skills go unfilled for lack of qualified candidates.

Need for skilled workers remains strong

"The workers hardest to find are machinists — skilled technicians who operate lathes, mills and other cutting tools and can turn a raw cube of metal into, say, a finely grooved aircraft engine part."

"Behind the talent crisis is a cultural shift away from manufacturing and into more college-oriented disciplines, manufacturers say. Kids today still think of manufacturing as smokestacks, when it's more about software-guided machines, says Sweatman, 65, who cut his machining teeth working for GE."

"School officials are measured by how many students they prepare for college, he says."

"They're all pushed toward college," he says. "All your politicians say, 'You need a college degree."

"Psychology majors, history majors, I don't know how many jobs are out there."


19 posted on 02/25/2012 2:16:29 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Kaslin

If I had a kid, I would advise him/her to attend a Vo-Tech. Either plumbing or electrical.
They make a bunch of money. And people always need them.
They would make a bunch of money while their friends who Majored in Under water basket weaving or Bagpipes are working at McDonalds trying to pay off the massive debt they got.


20 posted on 02/25/2012 2:18:18 PM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Vaquero
...so President Teleprompter has nothing to be snobbish about.

It's called "high self-esteem for no apparent reason."

21 posted on 02/25/2012 2:21:00 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the fascists.)
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To: Kaslin

I can go a step beyond this to evade most of college, and its debt, for many people.

Have major corporations and even industries create a curriculum for their employees. It is simplicity itself.

They advise all applicants that there is a *limited* number of specific courses that they must take and pass to apply to work for them, and that they hire for these *courses* only, not entire degrees. The rest of the degree is on their time and dime if they want the whole thing.

And, if students take the courses they demand and are hired, the percent of those loans they took for just those courses will be paid back by the company over the course of years employed.

Importantly, there is no guarantee of employment by a particular company, but a good likelihood of employment by somebody in the industry.

Since universities demand a lot of worthless lower division classes and prerequisites, the industry can subcontract for a few classes that fill in those blanks.

Accreditation agencies like North Central assume students must take entire majors and earn degrees, but corporations can be indifferent to accreditation, as long as students can pass the industry tests.

Microsoft already does something like this, to get MS Certified Engineers. Even if a person has just graduated from elementary school, if they can pass the MSCE, they *are* an MSCE.

Bottom line: this kills off much of the “paper chase”, and saves students a huge amount of money, as well as letting them get two more years of gainful employment right when they are most productive.


22 posted on 02/25/2012 2:22:40 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Brices Crossroads

I agree. It has bugged me for some time that the GOP and their candidates basically ignore blue collar workers anymore. They always seem to focus on Big Business issues 100% and just think that these voters will just follow along. At least Rick is addressing issues like manufacturing and traditional values that matter to these voters. From what I can see, his message is resonating opening up a whole new source of votes to the GOP.


23 posted on 02/25/2012 2:23:29 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Irenic

Are you a Newt, Paul or Romney supporter?


24 posted on 02/25/2012 2:27:31 PM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

“From what I can see, his message is resonating opening up a whole new source of votes to the GOP.”

That is my take as well and one of the reason I believe Santorum to be a much stronger General Election Candidate than Gingrich.


25 posted on 02/25/2012 2:29:49 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: Kaslin

As a former academic, I say. But of course. Colleges now sucker parents to send their kids to college expecting to fleece the parents of a year of expenses and/or leave the kid in hock for ten thousand dollars or more in federal or other loans. They do this in full knowledge that the kids has about as much change of graduating as he does playing in the NFL. Vocational education has been shortchanged, largely because so few in public education have any idea of how to make it work. But apart from that, the shop classes that used to teach suburban kids which end of a hammer to hold has disappeared. This despite the need in an age where simple repairs cost a minimum of $50.00 an hour.


26 posted on 02/25/2012 2:33:56 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Kaslin
If someone studies engineering or some other technical topic in college, are they really being "indoctrinated"?

Other than that I agree with a lot of what Santorum is saying.

27 posted on 02/25/2012 2:40:19 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Frank_2001

Don’t forget, people who are essentially in debt bondage to the Government are far easier to control...


An excellent point. The Obama Administration no doubt looks on college employees (especially public ones) as a key constituency. Nudging more people into college keeps that constituency afloat. And (as RS said), it serves to indoctrinate the students. It also loads them down with debt, which makes them all the more radical and angry when they can’t find jobs with their Sociology degree. For the Libs, its a win/win all around.


28 posted on 02/25/2012 2:42:24 PM PST by rbg81 (scillian's)
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To: wideminded
If someone studies engineering or some other technical topic in college, are they really being "indoctrinated"?

Depends, I see a lot of beginning "eco engineering" type stuff going on at our local community college but more of the technical stuff is good. We'll always need good college educated people to help advance us into the future but we need builders too.
29 posted on 02/25/2012 2:54:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Linda Frances

Gingrich.


30 posted on 02/25/2012 3:01:51 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Kaslin

The Line of the Day.

Heard it on the radio and it jerked me over to listen.


31 posted on 02/25/2012 3:06:23 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Kaslin

Just about anything that “everybody” has, is by definition, devalued. The value of a college degree was that it set the person apart from “everybody”. Give everybody a million dollars and it won’t mean much to be a millionaire. But we don’t expect Obama to understand basic supply and demand.


32 posted on 02/25/2012 3:09:17 PM PST by Anima Mundi
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To: cripplecreek

Yes because they get attached to lefty college girls if they are guys. Ask me about my engineer son who married someone who hates America and whose mother is a big deal in the ACLU and who just recently decided he was not exciting enough for her and so she is going “home” to the Bay Area of California, leaving him wondering what happened.


33 posted on 02/25/2012 3:13:40 PM PST by Anima Mundi
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To: Kaslin

Anybody who wants to go to college and willing to do the school work there can probably find a way. Not all want to nor should those people be hectored into it. There is room for all kinds. In high school one of my social studies teachers actually said he had an ethical problem advising someone how to become a millionaire, because it might well involve dropping out of school!!


34 posted on 02/25/2012 3:29:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Kaslin

barry gettin’ “Rick Rolled”

moochelle gonna get angry again, oh wait, isn’t spring vacation coming up ....


35 posted on 02/25/2012 3:36:12 PM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Kaslin

College could be valuable were it not for the mandatory courses where tenured leftists get a crack at indoctrinating you. Having run that gauntlet in pursuit of a hard science degreem I’ve come to the conclusion that a college education today isn’t nearly all it’s cracked up to be.


36 posted on 02/25/2012 3:50:01 PM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: stars & stripes forever
Could it be an attempt of elitists to turn America into the white college utopia described in Mega Trends, a best seller in the 80s?

It happened much sooner than that.
I remember commuting with an avowed communist in the early 60s, not too long before all smokestack industries and manufacturing of everything that was excellent began to move overseas.
I recall replying in many discussions that I could not conceive of the U.S. (or any country, for that matter) existing very long as a totally "service" society.

We have confirmed in the worst way possible that an economically healthy society cannot exist without the actual creation of wealth and useful manufactured products.

Of course, the unions couldn't care less, being the new privileged economic aristocracy.

37 posted on 02/25/2012 3:53:42 PM PST by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Anima Mundi
Ask me about my engineer son who married someone who hates America and whose mother is a big deal in the ACLU and who just...

Just goes to show us that even having the brains and expending the effort required for achieving a useful degree does not prevent human beings from choosing poorly...

38 posted on 02/25/2012 4:00:35 PM PST by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Vaquero
a snob?

yes he appears to be a snob....he acts the part well....

when he refuses to show his grades...and the only reason he passed his classes is because the leftist professors would NEVER FAIL A BLACK MAN!

so President Teleprompter has nothing to be snobbish about.

If my information about the origin of the term “snob” is correct - and I admit that I have seen it contradicted - it derives from "s. nob” which was an abbreviation for “sans nobility” i.e., without title. Commoners who gained admittance to elite institutions had an inferiority complex because they were thorn in with children of nobility - and tended to compensate by putting on airs precisely because they had nothing to brag about.

39 posted on 02/25/2012 4:27:34 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: pabianice
I went to Bowdoin in the '60's. UMass was a joke even then. Not that Bowdoin didn't turn into one, but yeah, the east coast needs a flush with Drano.
40 posted on 02/25/2012 4:39:28 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Have major corporations and even industries create a curriculum for their employees. It is simplicity itself.”

I like this but I want them to know American history and the Constitution as well!


41 posted on 02/25/2012 4:53:18 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Kaslin

I watched this speech streaming on CNN - it was very good. Loved the “what a snob” comment.


42 posted on 02/25/2012 5:06:37 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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To: Kaslin

Pushing is just that, they push these idiots through high school and then to send thru college now, maybe he just wants to send them a college degree in the mail with thier welfare check, or food stamp card.


43 posted on 02/25/2012 5:11:03 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: pabianice

Chilling stories from ZooMass.

You’ve nailed the underlying, major, and fatal problem with educational affirmative action. Government regs, social engineering, and liberal guilt can get AA students into an Ivy League (or any college), but it can’t KEEP them there ... unless they’re Teh One, of course.

And of course, the resulting blow to the artificially inflated self-esteem is doubly harsh because they couldn’t cut it in a school they wouldn’t have qualified for in the first place.

(Of course, this does not apply to those students who study, attend class, and take their education seriously.)


44 posted on 02/25/2012 5:12:02 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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To: hinckley buzzard

Actually, UMass didn’t drop into the toilet until the late 60s. In 1963, UMass retired undefeated (one of only ten schools to do so) on the TV show GE College Bowl, defeating U. of Arizona 360 to 35. Up to that time it was a very good state U. about to become a top one. But alas, the 60s and 70s brought-in fecal faculty, communists, screeching feminists, violent ‘oppressed people of color,’ and graduates staying on to be come tenured radicals. Today Arts and Sciences and Humanities are a national joke, but the schools of chemistry and engineering remain world class. You just have to be careful not to walk onto the wrong part of the campus.


45 posted on 02/25/2012 6:36:18 PM PST by pabianice (")
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To: Lazlo in PA

You are absolutely right.

23 posted on Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:23:29 PM by Lazlo in PA: “I agree. It has bugged me for some time that the GOP and their candidates basically ignore blue collar workers anymore. They always seem to focus on Big Business issues 100% and just think that these voters will just follow along. At least Rick is addressing issues like manufacturing and traditional values that matter to these voters. From what I can see, his message is resonating opening up a whole new source of votes to the GOP.”


46 posted on 02/25/2012 7:19:37 PM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: bootless; pabianice
And of course, the resulting blow to the artificially inflated self-esteem is doubly harsh because they couldn’t cut it in a school..

And because these students are indoctrinated to believe they are "special" any failure on their part is not their fault but because of the "racist" system that didn't recognize and reward this "gifted" student.

Even when the socialist fail they suceed. Based on a victim oriented system, their power rests on an racially disaffected populace. A bitter indebted former student is just a another voter they can rely upon.
47 posted on 02/26/2012 11:26:53 AM PST by RedMonqey (A politician's integrity is usually only as strong as his poll numbers.)
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To: Kaslin; All

WOW!!! He bitch slapped Obozo on that one.


48 posted on 02/27/2012 4:25:55 AM PST by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy.......Gingrich Or Santorum.... YES!!!)
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