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Rick Santorum: JFKs 1960 Speech Made Me Want to Throw Up (Church is allowed to influence the state)
ABC News ^ | 02/26/2012 | George Stephanopoulos

Posted on 02/26/2012 11:51:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind

GOP presidential hopeful Rick Santorum said today that watching John F. Kennedy’s speech to the Baptist ministers in Houston in 1960 made him want to “throw up.” “To say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes you throw up. What kind of country do we live that says only people of non-faith can come into the public square and make their case?” Santorum said.

“That makes me throw up and it should make every American who is seen from the president, someone who is now trying to tell people of faith that you will do what the government says, we are going to impose our values on you, not that you can’t come to the public square and argue against it, but now we’re going to turn around and say we’re going to impose our values from the government on people of faith, which of course is the next logical step when people of faith, at least according to John Kennedy, have no role in the public square,” he said.

Santorum also said he does not believe in an America where the separation of church and state is “absolute.” “I don’t believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute. The idea that the church can have no influence or no involvement in the operation of the state is absolutely antithetical to the objectives and vision of our country,” said Santorum. “This is the First Amendment. The First Amendment says the free exercise of religion. That means bringing everybody, people of faith and no faith, into the public square.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: church; idiot; jfk; lunacy; santorum; state
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To: ClearCase_guy

>> “My brother, for one, saw George W. Bush in the White House as a major step toward theocracy. He thought we were becoming like Iran — because Bush was a strong Christian. To my brother, this was just wrong.” <<

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Your brother was one confused dude!

George Bush was, at best, a symbolic Christian. He didn’t even understand that Allah is not God, but a synonym for Satan.


21 posted on 02/26/2012 12:34:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Look...the Church should not rule the state ...but the people do govern based in ideals they believe in ...they create governing documents based in ideals they believe in... and those ideals they believe in can be learn from God and in Church ....
22 posted on 02/26/2012 12:39:03 PM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Cboldt
When did he experience this "want to throw up" reaction? In 1960?

He's not claiming to have been there.
23 posted on 02/26/2012 12:39:43 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Santorum has talked so much on this issue that he contradicts himself frequently. They are now saying on a political talk show I’m watching, that he has contradicted himself in speeches he’s given this week on his position on funding for contraception. He just can’t help himself. Political expediency, thy name is Rick Santorum.

BTW, thanks for reposting my favorite picture of Rick’s riviting church speech. It never fails to make me LOL!


24 posted on 02/26/2012 12:40:27 PM PST by conservativejoy ("Where there is no vision, the people perish." Proverbs 29:18)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is just a devastatingly poisonous quote to be used against Rick in the general election. I know that the soft Democrats here in Pennsylvania adore JFK. JFK is why a lot of them became Democrats in the first place. Saying anything negative about JFK is poison to trying to get that moderate vote in the general election.


25 posted on 02/26/2012 12:45:59 PM PST by JediJones (Watch "Gingrich to Michigan: Change or Die" on YouTube. Best Speech Ever!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Look...the Church should not rule the state ...but the people do govern based in ideals they believe in ...they create governing documents based in ideals they believe in... and those ideals they believe in can be learned from God and in Church ....

The Bible told man not to Murder long before the state told man not to Murder... so is that the Church ruling the state or man ruling based in ideals learned from God and in Church?

26 posted on 02/26/2012 12:46:26 PM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Cboldt

Maybe he misremembered and just had a tummy ache from a bad bottle of Gerber’s.


27 posted on 02/26/2012 12:47:25 PM PST by JediJones (Watch "Gingrich to Michigan: Change or Die" on YouTube. Best Speech Ever!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"The idea that the church can have no influence or no involvement in the operation of the state is absolutely antithetical to the objectives and vision of our country,"

I wonder WHICH Church he is referring to? Also, it very clear the Founding Fathers were opposed to ANY CHURCH having a role in "the operation of the state".

This man must not receive the GOP nomination. His stance is against the Constitution and it's founding intent.

Santorum must be stopped.

28 posted on 02/26/2012 12:50:12 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Various are the pleas and arguments which men of corrupt minds frequently urge against yielding obedience to the just and holy commands of God.”

-Reverend George Whitfield

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The ways of Providence being inscrutable, and the justice of it not to be scanned by the shallow eye of humanity, nor to be counteracted by the utmost efforts of human power or wisdom, resignation, and as far as the strength of our reason and religion can carry us, a cheerful acquiescence to the Divine Will, is what we are to aim.

GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to Colonel Bassett, Apr. 25, 1773
29 posted on 02/26/2012 12:50:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: SeekAndFind

ABC is laughing at him. I wish people could open their eyes in what is happening. The media again picking our nominee. So odd, no mention of Newt; such a shame.


30 posted on 02/26/2012 12:57:07 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Man, talk about stepping in it!

Watch the speech (12 September 1960).

31 posted on 02/26/2012 12:58:47 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: berdie

later


32 posted on 02/26/2012 1:04:23 PM PST by berdie
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To: SeekAndFind

...Rick Santorum said today that watching John F. Kennedy’s speech to the Baptist ministers in Houston in 1960...


Wow! he was watching the speech in 1960? The baby was only 2 years old at that time. He was born on May 10, 1958.

Who knew! A political prodigy nerd at the age of 2. No wonder he is so knowledgeable about everything.

Mark Twain once wrote “When I was young, I could remember everything, whether it happened or not.” He must have been writing about Ricky baby.

Wait, wait....don’t pile on....I know he didn’t actually listen to the speech at the age of 2 but I just could not pass up this opportunity to have fun with a poorly written article.

On second thought....hummmmmmm....maybe he did since he is so intelligent.


33 posted on 02/26/2012 1:10:46 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Cboldt

RE: When did he experience this “want to throw up” reaction? In 1960?

I would surmise when that it happened much later.


34 posted on 02/26/2012 1:16:45 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

“Santorum keeps trying to force his religious Catholic zealotry and bigotry”

Not close to true according to America.

We have made several updates to our State by State polling Map http://www.conservativestats.com/p/mapping.html #fb


35 posted on 02/26/2012 1:19:43 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: SeekAndFind

The intent of JFK’s speech was to defuse Baptist hatred of the Catholic Church, at least to a certain extend. That coupled with the nomination of Johnson and 80% vote given him by Catholics gave him his narrow victory. Separation of Church and State can be absolute only in that no office holder can be compelled to profess a certain faith. Hence he can swear to or merely affirm his duty to the Constitution. Jefferson in talking about the matter was speaking in Baptist terms of separation, and the “wall” the kind of hedge that Baptist congregations wanted to put between the individual conscience and the dogs of government. To put it another way, it actually broke down the walls that kept Baptists and Catholics and Jews from participating in national political life, as was the case in Great Britain.


36 posted on 02/26/2012 1:19:58 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Christie at the beach

“ABC is laughing at him”

Liberals ALWAYS laugh at religion.


37 posted on 02/26/2012 1:21:15 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: SeekAndFind

Santorum doesn’t just jump the shark; he owns the shark.


38 posted on 02/26/2012 1:21:43 PM PST by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: cripplecreek

Amen and Amen.


39 posted on 02/26/2012 1:22:40 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: SeekAndFind

Exactly. The whole purpose to JFK’s speech was to reassure voters that he, a man of the Catholic faith, could and would serve properly as president.


40 posted on 02/26/2012 1:23:50 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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