Skip to comments.Santorum Retakes Lead in Michigan (Santorum 37%, Romney 35%)
Posted on 02/27/2012 5:38:14 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
With a strong, successful push over the weekend to move conservatives, especially social conservatives, back to him, Rick Santorum has re-taken the lead in the latest Mitchell/Rosetta Stone Poll of Michigan conducted for MIRS (Michigan Information & Research Service) Sunday night. The two front runners are still in a statistical dead heat, although Romney (35%) has lost his lead to Rick Santorum (37%) while Newt Gingrich (9%) and Ron Paul (8%) are locked in a battle for third place. Eleven percent remains undecided.
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There is no such thing and selling your soul to the devil because you dislike Santorum and Catholics at a discount seems kind of foolhardy.
There is an "establishment clause" and a "free exercise clause". To exercise means to do vigorously and the notion that religion is barred from influencing debate in government in the public square is a left wing secular nut philosophy.
In fact I just had to explain this to a liberal at Politico and the fact that I now have to explain it to a self identified conservative here at FR makes me throw up as well.
The separation of Church and State is NOT in the Constitution, although the Marxist left wants to put it in there like all good Marxist do. What Reagan believed was this country should not have a state church, like Britain did, and I agree with him on that. But it's obvious from his speeches, he thought speaking of faith can and should be part of the political discourse, or he would not have talked about it so much, AS PRESIDENT.
We Christians don't talk of our faith to upset you, we like talking about our faith to one other, you just happen to come into Santorum threads. Maybe your drawn to those who have faith, or maybe your here only to do a hit piece on Santorum, I don't know, but am praying for you, as I'm sure others here are.
I can't wait till his org leaves our fair state (and all the nice trees.....). His campaign is really sick.
With a little luck, the weather will keep the George Romney voters home tomorrow.
My reputation is as a three legged stool conservative. My behavior mirrors the behavior of who I’m speaking with. If you mean I don’t take crap, you’re absolutely right. And I don’t care if you respond or not. If you post like a liberal and I see it, I’ll correct your left wing nonsense in writing and under my own name whether or not you whine about it.
*Fuming up north*
It’s interesting that you only attacks and respond to attacks rather than having a rational conversation about the merits of the candidates. You keep saying that Santorum is liberal in fiscal policy, yet ignore this fact.
National Taxpayer Union career scorecard:
Looking at the moral condition of the current America, it seems that for some reason, “prayer” just ain't workin’ out so well. And that is not my fault.
Thanks for illustrating my previous point.
ANYONE rooting for Willard the Lib to sweep tomorrow is a Rombot in disguise.
“Looking at the moral condition of the current America, it seems that for some reason, prayer just ain’t workin.”
You are such a flaming LIBERAL.
■FACT: Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), who sponsored the measure, on the purpose of his amendment: Basically what this amendment does is ensure that ex-felons, people who have fully served their sentences, have completed their probation, have completed their parole, should not be denied their right to vote. (Sen. Harry Reid, Remarks on the Senate Floor, 2/14/02) Rick Santorum voted to increase the debt limit five times, adding $3 trillion to the national debt.
■FACT: Santorum voted to increase the debt ceiling in 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2006. Together, these five votes boosted the federal debt limit by nearly $3.5 trillion. (H.R. 2015, Roll Call Vote #209, 7/31/97; S. 2578, Roll Call Vote #148, 6/11/02; H. J. Res. 51, Roll Call Vote #202, 5/23/03; S. 2986, Roll Call Vote #213, 11/17/04; H. J. Res. 47, Roll Call Vote #54, 3/16/06; Mindy R. Leavit, The Debt Limit: History and Recent Increases, Congressional Research Service, 9/9/11) Rick Santorum voted for billions in wasteful pork, including the Bridge to Nowhere.
■FACT: Club for Growth: Santorum was a prolific supporter of earmarks, having requested billions of dollars for pork projects in Pennsylvania while he was in Congress. (Club for Growth, 2012 Presidential White Paper #4, Rick Santorum)
■FACT: New York Times says Santorums earmark record shows he used his prowess as a Washington insider. The announcements flowed out of Rick Santorums Senate office: a $3.5 million federal grant to Piasecki Aircraft to help it test a new helicopter propeller technology; another $3.5 million to JLG Industries to bolster its bid to build all-terrain forklifts for the military; $1.4 million to Medico Industries to upgrade equipment for its munitions work. But an examination of Mr. Santorums earmark record sheds light on another aspect of his political personality, one that is at odds with the reformer image he has tried to convey on the trail: his prowess as a Washington insider. A review of some of his earmarks, viewed alongside his political donations, suggests that the river of federal money Mr. Santorum helped direct to Pennsylvania paid off handsomely in the form of campaign cash. (Michael Luo and Mike McIntire, The New York Times, 1/15/12)
■FACT: Santorum voted for the 2005 highway bill, which included hundreds of earmarks, including the Bridge to Nowhere. (H.R. 3, Roll Call Vote #220, 7/29/05)
■FACT: Santorum voted for the Bridge to Nowhere again. Santorum voted for the 2005 highway bill that included thousands of wasteful earmarks, including the Bridge to Nowhere. In fact, in a separate vote, Santorum had the audacity to vote to continue funding the Bridge to Nowhere rather than send the money to rebuild New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. (Club for Growth, 2012 Presidential White Paper #4, Rick Santorum)
■FACT: Santorum admitted he voted for bridge, and defended vote: People say that I voted for The Bridge to Nowhere. I did. I went with the federalist argument, which is, Who am I in Pennsylvania to tell Alaska what their highway priorities should be? (William Petroski, Des Moines Register, 12/29/11)
■FACT: Rick Santorum: Im not saying necessarily earmarks are bad. I have had a lot of earmarks. In fact, Im very proud of all the earmarks Ive put in bills. Ill defend earmarks. (Fox News Hannity, 2/26/09)
■FACT: To watch Rick Santorums defense of earmarks, click here. Rick Santorum is the ultimate Washington insider.
■FACT:Then in 1990, he challenged the seven-term Democratic incumbent in Pennsylvanias 18th Congressional District and won. Santorum was 32 years old at the time. (Jeff Brady, NPR, 11/21/11)
■FACT: [T]he reality is that Santorum became the ultimate Washington insider. (Manu Raju and John Bresnahan, Politico, 1/6/12)
Santorum “the most corrupt politician” gets $3 million in 3 days! What are we going to do?
Submitted by 4Constitution on Tue, 02/14/2012 - 12:57
He is bragging about it!! Remember all that we know about Rick Santorum:
“Few people played a more pivotal role in Tuesdays turn of events than Mr. Friess. An investor who made millions in mutual funds and now lives in Wyoming, he is the chief backer of a super PAC that has helped keep Mr. Santorums candidacy alive by running television advertisements on his behalf.”
read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/09/us/politics/foster-friess-...
“VOTED ONE OF THE MOST CORRUPT POLITICIANS IN 2006”
FACT: psycho-freep cherrypicked a bunch of votes to make his his point and ignores the systematic analysis done by the National Taxpayers Union. Newt has plenty of examples of these kinds of votes in his portfolio also. Rick is not perfect, but has a better record overall.
I hope Santorum can take it. You know if Romney has even a 0.1% supposed lead by the end, the GOP elite will claim victory for Romney and hold off actually counting the votes ala Maine.
Prove it you mouthy little Troll.......
I will check out the corrupt politician stuff. I am not fully in the Santorum camp. But can you agree with my point that Rick is more fiscally conservative in his votes than Newt?
I am doing all I can to get Newt elected, but it seems this insanity will go on regardless. The further this goes, the more it is looking like a Brokered Convention. The numbers are just not there for Santorum, and they more than likely, never will be. As far as Newt Gingrich goes, he will need to win everything from here on out, to have a chance. And Santorum is no different.
The “split vote” theory is looking more like reality, with every day that passes.
So my FRiend.. exactly how many pair of Obama MITTens do you own?
May I suggest you trade your OBAMA MITTens for a nice sweater vest?
agree, the way the GOP has acted has pissed me off to no end and I was flicking through the channels today and saw Perino on FOX.
She’s out there defending obama and his pathetic sorry to burning korans.
The establishment only care about getting along so they can keep their pockets full and keep their power.
Excuse me, instead of characterizing me as a “Romney-bot”, how about a discussion of my post? I stated that it might be better for Newt if Santorum loses big tomorrow. I don’t feel I was personal or rude. I would like to hear the opinion of Santorum supporters. Tell me, how does it HELP Gingrich for Santorum to win tomorrow?
I notice Mitt is ignoring all the pleas from Sunday shows to appear.
Does this help him or hurt him?
I guess you can help yourself a little on the Sunday shows (assuming that anyone actually watches them but us) and Santorum did answer and/or refute all the liberal charges against him pretty well yesterday.
It’s almost like Romney is withdrawing from the fray, no debates and no talk show appearances, but his wife has become very active. She is (or was) more likeable than him but she’s getting less likeable the more she talks.
Newt supporters will vote for Newt, Paul supporters will vote for Paul (at this juncture).
Just my opinion.
Hope Romney loses.
There is much about Santorum that you seem destined to learn the hard way, after it is too late.
Newt has his past to deal with also, but that fact is ancient history at this point. It's the new Newt that will fix this mess, not the old one.
Newt has the opportunity to take MITTens out of the race tomorrow.. IF his followers get on Rick Santorum’s Team TODAY..
Listen closely Troll, if you ever insinuate that I support Obama again, I will take your aggitative hide all the way to the top.
The record is what it is, but is not what you say it is. If you’re going to make a case for voting for or against someone, do it with facts and fair minded analysis. Your inaccurate posts and snarky attacks are getting tiresome and do nothing to help me make up my mind as I consider the two candidates.
Very good. Whiner and rat all in one sentence.
Well, I can sure see how that helps Rick. I must be very dense, because I still don’t see how that helps Newt.
He may get angry but if he does, he’s learned to control outward signs of it.
If anything, he’s almost too cheery and affable when Ape man and Steffi confront him with lies and half truths.
You are siding with Romney if you believe and proclaim that Santorum will impose religious views on the country. He simply proclaims his right to have those views, along with the right of anyone to have whatever religious views they hold.
He is for less government interference in religion as opposed to Obama.
The line you are touting is exactly the line that brought Santorum’s numbers down, I hope temporarily.
Newt is my man but he’s a very long shot at this point.
Here, I'll give it a shot. Newt fans seem to think that every time Santorum wins a state it benefits Newt. IOW's if Santorum wins enough states to knock Romney out Santorum fans will come to their senses and Newt will be the nominee. Now I don't subscribe to that piece of tortured logic but there you have it anyway.
The media will push Romney and wavering people in the middle will move his way if Romney wins both contests tomorrow.
Romney must be knocked down.
If Romney can look less inevitable, this will cause the not so conservative voters to look for alternatives to Romney as their choice.
They may switch from Romney to Newt Gingrich out of fear of Santorum.
Newt can become the candidate who brings in the conservatives and “moderates” .....
Of course, the GOP insiders may be forced to float another name like Daniels, Jeb Bush or Chris Christie in the face of collapse, but who knows how united they will be in the face of a Romney collapse.
I see a potential opening for Newt if Romney is knocked down tomorrow in Michigan and his supporters start to panic.
I am also fairly certain that, no matter what Santorum voters may say, they wont return the favor and support Newt in the South. Look at what happened in Florida. Santorum had pulled out, right? But I heard NOTHING from his voters about all getting together and voting for Newt. As far as Im concerned, Newt really owes Rick nothing.
BINGO! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!
Psycho, you will find (maybe too late) that going insane in private is better than going insane in public.
All this stuff you’re saying about how there are dark secrets about Santorum that we will ‘find out too late’ is ridiculous.
Unlike Mitt, Santorum was in the senate for a long while. His record is public. He has a very good conservative rating. We don’t know what Mitt’s rating would have been, but not too good I wouldn’t think. He is mainly touting his Olympic success. He hardly even mentions his tour as governor because that reminds everyone of Romney care.
That’s the problem with having been in public life. You have a record. This has hurt Newt also, even though his record was mostly good (as was Rick’s) but all the stumbles come out.
There are no deep, dark secrets about Santorum. Someone is fond of posting a long list of Santorum votes they didn’t like. I pray they stop as it is boring. We don’t know the context of any of those votes. We do know that he had a mostly very favorable conservative rating.
You seem to think that if you attack Santorum viciously enough, you will turn his supporters to Newt.
The truth is, it has the opposite effect.
I have to keep reminding myself that you are not Newt and that Newt would never say the stuff you say.
You need to take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard for a while.
The thing I’m afraid of is that the early voting may push Romney over the top. Rick would have to win by a handy margin to overcome that, IMO.
Thanks for your replies! You explain very well the hope of Newt supporters, but I’m afraid we haven’t taken into account enough the reaction of Santorum and his supporters if he wins MI tomorrow. They will probably consider it a confirmation of “God’s will” (as Karen Santorum says) and start crowing to Newt that he needs to withdraw.
To be honest I support Santorum and won’t be switching unless Newt wins the nomination. I will disagree with Newt when I see fit but I won’t refer to him as Mandate Newt in every post mocking him as a great deal of Newt supporters mock Santorum in evry line they write. I’ll even vote for Romney over Obama if Romney somehow manages to dupe republicans en masse but I’ll do it with the taste of pile in my mouth.
Hell I’d even vote for Psycho over Obama though I’d do it with more than a bit of puke in my mouth.
I would vote for the nasty little gnome over Obama.
I would vote for Psycho Freep over Obama.
Unless we end up with a candidate with visible horns and a tail, he will get my vote.
We see things the same and I think clearly. I suspect most will come around to our point of view if the worst happens. But maybe not.
Come November... anyone but Obama.
You have captured the problem Psycho has very well, Linda.
He doesn't like that Christians discuss matters of faith at all, and when we do, he considers it being 'sanctimonious.' The anger he has toward the discussion of faith in the public square equals the anger the left has with the same. That's why it's so easy to see him as a leftist.
That's part of the problem many faithless people have with Rick, even though Rick hasn't anything but express his own personal faith, as have many, many other politicians before him......especially before the left began trying to shred the First Amendment rights of Christians.
And thanks for your educating the Psycho on what's actually in the Constitution, and what's NOT........that is, "the separation of Church and State."
Reagan knew that, even if Psycho doesn't.
I sure hope Newt can win something on Super Tuesday beyond Georgia, perhaps Tennessee and or Oklahoma.......
Santorum has a shot at Ohio which would hurt Romney, who will have Virginia by defualt along with Vermont and Massachusetts.
Too many politicians stick their fingers in the wind and say whatever the focus groups dictate.
Ironic how Rick Santorum is such an "extremist" on issues like gay marriage. And yet that is the very same position taken by both Hillary and Barack in the 2008 democratic primary.
Yet, it was not a big issue for them.
I wonder why?
Me thinks it is because everyone understood that they were lying.
That is what I love most about Palin.
She is fearless .. and says what she believes.
Oh dear. I guess we’ll have those calls to look forward to in Ohio. I would have to check the recorder, but I don’t think we’ve gotten any yet, though I’ve seen a Romney ad on TV.
Oh dear. I guess we’ll have those calls to look forward to in Ohio. I would have to check the recorder, but I don’t think we’ve gotten any yet, though I’ve seen a Romney ad on TV.
Why does our side allow independents to vote in picking our candidate?
Me too. Anybody but the chosen one.
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