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Santorum blames 2008 mortgage crisis on $4-per-gallon gas ^ | 02/27/12 | Daniel Strauss

Posted on 02/27/2012 2:32:03 PM PST by VU4G10

Rick Santorum on Monday blamed the housing crisis on high gas prices.

During a campaign appearance in Michigan, Santorum said the housing bubble burst in 2008 because people could no longer afford to pay their mortgages because of high gas prices.

"We went into a recession in 2008 because of gasoline prices," Santorum said in Michigan according to Buzzfeed. "The bubble burst in housing because people couldn’t pay their mortgages because of $4 a gallon gasoline."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; gasprices; housingbubble; obama; santorum; santorumgaffes
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To: VU4G10

It wasn’t the cause; it was the trigger.

41 posted on 02/27/2012 3:36:35 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: onyx

SWEEEeeeeet! (The “Cheerful” one)

42 posted on 02/27/2012 3:41:54 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Revolting cat!; RitaOK; Gator113; PSYCHO-FREEP
I’d like to know who we’re going to blame for Santorum?

Start with Romney & Paul in Iowa their vicious attack ads on Newt Gingrich when Newt was running away with the nomination, and Santorum came out of nowhere.

Then Newt rebounded in South Carolina and Romney went scorched earth again in Florida. Santorum cleverly won two beauty contests in Missouri and Minnesota, but beat Romney and Gingrich in Colorado, so blame the polls now, because voters "follow polls" and also blame the lack of debates and the media which is shutting out Gingrich!

Santorum has been the "severely" lucky beneficiary of Romney's scorched earch, up until now, but the Romney damage to Newt has been done and without media presence, Newt Gingrich's chances have been dimmed and the media are delighted to shut out Newt Gingrich, espeially Faux!!

The establishment all fear Newt Gingrich! The only agent of radical change!

Remove Romney and Newt Gingrich wins!

43 posted on 02/27/2012 3:49:53 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: RitaOK

And you think Newt would disagree that gas prices didn’t help bring down the U.S. economy? He was out there with his Drill and Save Money bumper sticker. I changed it on my bumper to Drill and Save Jobs. I watched it all happen in CA and gas prices were the tipping point, or straw that broke the camel’s back or what ever cliche you want to use. Most I know people who were house poor who could have continued paying the mortgage if gas had stayed reasonably priced. I put full blame on the Democrat Congress that came into power in January 2007.

44 posted on 02/27/2012 3:51:24 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: lightman

I remember the first couple weeks when the gas price was the highest. I live on a busy road where you could have an average of 40 to 50 cars an hour. One Saturday night the wife and I noticed we were not hearing cars anymore. When you are used to hearing them for years, the absence was deafening. We timed the interval to almost an hour between cars. No one was driving down town to get liquored up because the price shock to the system was that bad. That really hit people hard. We forget that now because of all the other bad things that occurred after that i.e.; the meltdown.

45 posted on 02/27/2012 4:00:04 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: VU4G10

This is our problem:

1. Ron Paul - fiscal conservative but scary as hell on foreign policy.
2. Mitt Romney - looks good, but is a jerk and has only one reason for running: he wants to be President.
3. Rick Santorum - not ready for prime time, a possible disaster.
4. Newt Gingrich - a very good communicator with great political instincts with high negatives and self inflected wounds in his personal life.

What to do? I have no clue anymore. I like Newt, but if he can’t win the nomination what is plan B. That is what I keep asking myself. And so far here is my solution.

Support Rick Santorum and go down fighting. But we surely will go down, maybe by alot. God help us.

46 posted on 02/27/2012 4:02:41 PM PST by dt57 (illerate, noobie....)
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To: VU4G10; wildbill; Psycho_Bunny; BitWielder1; RitaOK; dalereed; Revolting cat!; PSYCHO-FREEP; ...
To those who chose to laugh: If you can read a graph, you can stop now!

Read more: Rick Santorum Is Right: Gas Prices Caused the Great Recession (

As the more thoughtful poster stated, it may have not been the gas can, but it certainly was the match!

47 posted on 02/27/2012 4:09:33 PM PST by drpix
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To: VU4G10
Happened to me, with some extenuating circumstance though. But gasoline was certainly the straw that broke the camel's back in my case.
48 posted on 02/27/2012 4:13:25 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Darren McCarty

also because of the high gas prices, overnight practically, all the trades people had to jack up their prices to cover the cost and people stopped doing home repairs and building.....unemployment!

49 posted on 02/27/2012 4:16:50 PM PST by annelizly
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To: Darren McCarty

also because of the high gas prices, overnight practically, all the trades people had to jack up their prices to cover the cost and people stopped doing home repairs and building.....unemployment!

50 posted on 02/27/2012 4:17:09 PM PST by annelizly
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You should stop being so combative. You do know by now you are going to get Mitt Romney. Why? because Rick and Newt are splitting the vote.

Newt is not going to have a major comeback. Once you flame out in this race, you are done. If you have money, you can hang on, but it won’t help any.

After tomorrow, we will know if this race is over. Mitt wins Michigan and Arizona, he will be on a roll and the other two will be on the way out.

So, cut it out. No victory here for anyone.

51 posted on 02/27/2012 4:21:07 PM PST by dforest
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To: VU4G10

Man this is ignorant.

The crisis started because loans were made to people who should not have qualified for the loans. People who did not even have enough slack in their income to absorb a gas price increase.

It was a symptom, not the problem Santorum! In statistics, correlation is not CAUSE you idiot! That’s a Democrat trick straight out of the book, “How to Lie with Statistics.”

I don’t care how socially conservative he is, he’s clueless on the economy and this country does not have enough time to find out if he can learn quickly enough.

52 posted on 02/27/2012 4:37:53 PM PST by Advil000
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To: Lazlo in PA; drpix

Of course I don’t know if he made any qualifying statements that other factors might’ve been in play—but this comes perilously close to the logical fallacy of Post Hoc Ergo Prompter Hoc where the rooster thinks his crowing every day causes the sun to rise.

53 posted on 02/27/2012 4:37:53 PM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: wildbill; Advil000; Lazlo in PA
It is not idiotic or loony to claim a causal relationship for a factor that did not merely correlate to a 2nd factor but clearly rose precipitously before the 2nd factor - when both factors were similarly crucial to consumer and business spending. (post 47.)

Whether or not so many should have be incapable of riding out that gas price rise is a seperate question than whether or not they in fact were. Whether the open gas can (over extended debt) or the match (gas prices) caused an explosion can itself become a circular arguement.

Intelligent people may debate it, but FReepers cannot be so idiotic/loony as to really think it can be dismissed with an insult.

54 posted on 02/27/2012 5:07:59 PM PST by drpix
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To: Darren McCarty
If that's the case he does himself and the public a disservice. He should NOT collapse those two issues into one! By doing that all he does is contribute to the current level of public ignorance on economics which the RATs exploit shamelessly!
55 posted on 02/27/2012 5:16:18 PM PST by Reily
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To: VU4G10

Oh for crying out loud.

And our choice is this clown or Romney?

I’ve got to go find some antacid.

56 posted on 02/27/2012 5:58:58 PM PST by surely_you_jest (Mitt Romney is the latter day incarnation of Joe Isuzu.)
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To: dforest
inflation hurts the economy even though the government pretends it doesn’t and pretends that food and services don’t fit into inflation.

Inflation? WHAT inflation?

We don't buy food; we use the grass cuttings, and bark peeled off trees, to make soup.

As for gasoline prices being inflationary, that is ludicrous: we never buy gasoline; it's FREE! We just buy a new car every month, when the old one runs out...the way the Fed intended.


57 posted on 02/27/2012 6:27:53 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If any of their "Alternatives" actually works, the Greenies will proceed to kill it.)
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To: drpix
Gas reaching 4.00 did not CAUSE the Great Recession. Endless speculation of property values by every tom, dick, & harry caused the Housing bubble.

1. Everyone was buying land & homes for ridiculous price. It did not matter if you could afford them or not. Undeveloped farmland in the middle of nowhere was bringing 8k to 10k per acre ten times what you would normally expect to pay.

2. Everybody, Bankers included believed we were in a state of Nirvana property values would never go down.

3. Homes were being used as every ones on personal ATM. There was no reason to pay down or pay extra there was better thing to the spend money on.

The Housing bubble would have burst even if Gas had been given away for free.


58 posted on 02/27/2012 6:45:06 PM PST by Bailee (Vote Newt the Pitt bull we need.)
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To: VU4G10

First, the housing crisis began well before 2008. See the details at:

Governor Romney’s Housing Crisis (FR Exclusive)

59 posted on 02/28/2012 9:34:57 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: VU4G10

I think there’s slight truth there but it’s not the main cause of the problem. The problem is the artificial housing bubble that was created (and is currently blowing back up again) to get people into homes they COULDN’T AFFORD.

We can thank the Americans who didn’t do their homework or got greedy as well as the politicians who forced banks to lend money to people who had no business owning a home!

Santorum should have made gas prices a separate issue regarding Obama’s rejection of oil drilling/pipelines in this country.

60 posted on 02/29/2012 5:06:28 AM PST by libdestroyer
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