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Five reasons why Mitt Romney’s Michigan and Arizona wins are a big deal
SFGate: Politics Blog ^ | 2/28/12 | Richard Dunham, Hearst Washington Bureau

Posted on 02/28/2012 9:31:06 PM PST by SmithL

We’ve been reading for weeks about Mitt Romney’s demise as a presidential candidate.

For a candidate who’s been declared dead more often than Mark Twain, he’s showing surprising life.

In his victory speech in suburban Detroit, the Michigan native called his twin victories “a giant step toward a brighter future.”

Here are five reasons why the former Massachusetts governor’s wins in Michigan and Arizona are significant:

1. Considering how many mistakes Romney has made, he still won.

It was a rough week with a bushel of bad press. Remember the trees being the right size. And the multiple Cadillacs in the family garage. He still won.

2. He is resilient.

Romney dug himself a hole in Michigan. He was trailing in the polls. And he came from behind. If he’s going to beat President Obama, he’ll need to follow that same path.

3. His negative ads have been effective.

He outspent rival Rick Santorum and buried him with a barrage of negative ads. Santorum damaged himself with a weak debate performance in Arizona and a couple of campaign-trail gaffes. But Romney proved — once again — that he can shape public images of his rivals through skillful attack ads. Barack Obama: beware.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: election2012; romney
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To: Williams
I’m not pimping anyone Romney is the better speech maker of the group hands down. It’s a little thing called reality.

Only if you like sweet-platitudes and lies and are looking for moderation vs. conservatism.

Strike that, you're just plain wrong and your reality must be drug-induced.

Newt is head and shoulders above Mr. Serial Liar.
51 posted on 02/29/2012 9:31:47 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: jersey117
Reality is what it is......Romney won by splitting the vote. And RUN Paul is every bit as much of a factor but most here, seem to be blaming Newt for Romney's win

Here is another dose of reality for you Santorum fanatics; Newt had the lead months ago, but santorum benefited by being virtually invisible at the time Romney focused all of his big money and guns at Newt, and took him down at a critical moment in the race.

Now that Santorum has proved that he cannot deliver and his Big Mouth is his own worst enemy, the newest Santorum fairy tale/fantasy is that Santorum “actually won” Michigan, by losing to Romney by only 3 points. (Pay no attention to all those Democrat crossovers who Santorum paid campaign funds in order to pander to at the last minute.)

I certainly do not blame Newt for any of this. I do blame the ignorant Lemming voters in this party, who stampede blindly to career moderate/big government candidates like Santorum, who have him wrongly classified as a “true CONservative”. Socially yes, fiscally, he's a joke!

52 posted on 02/29/2012 9:36:12 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: jersey117

I appreciate that Free Republic pretty much officially hates Romney. I believe that is based on his record as governor and a total mistrust that he has switched on issues like abortion.

However, where many here depart from reality is they discuss Romney as a present day liberal candidate. He simply is not. Romney is campaigning as the most conservative republican. You don’t have to believe him but Romney currently is pro life, favors the strictest anti illegals policy, supports conservative judges, repealing Obamacare, etc.

As for giving a speech I’ve watched a couple now, he is about 10 times better than Santorum, and the speeches are very anti-Obama.

I’ve supported each front runner so that included Perry, Newt, Rick, Hermann. I considered Michelle not sure she was a true front runner. Pawlenti seemed ok but ended up being a dead fish candidate.


53 posted on 02/29/2012 10:30:27 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’ve seen Newt do great at debates, have seen him and Romney both do poorly at debates.

I want to see every one of these guys give a great speech. Did you watch Newt last night? With the whole politically inclined population watching, Newt came out early good enough. Then he inexplicably chose to ramble for 15 minutes about cutting down a tree and crashing it into someone’s house 30 years ago.

Then Santorum came out and went on forever. His wife and daughter looked saddened by his speech.

Romney in comparison gave a catchy anti Obama speech.


54 posted on 02/29/2012 10:49:46 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams

He’s not exciting. He doesn’t connect with the audience. Unless the audience is a group of elites like himself. He has no common touch. He does not understand conservative principles and offers liberal ideas with a conservative spin. Every single time he opens his mouth lies fly out.

Newt is a way better speaker than Mittens. Newt not only understands, but he can explain conservative principles in easily understandable terms. He can, as Mitt cannot, provide plenty of red meat for the base. Mr. Mayonnaise on White bread cannot excite anyone because there is no red meat in him.

How you can possibly think that Romney is the best speech maker I cannot imagine. Unless you happen to be one of his elite pals.


55 posted on 02/29/2012 10:57:36 AM PST by Waryone (Mitt Romney, dangerous homosexualist and lying socialist)
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To: Waryone

I dont think you listened to Romney’s or Newt’s speeches last night.

IF you watched then you saw Newt meander for 15 full minutes of nonsense and completely squandered the fact he was the first candidate up on a big night and addressing a national audience.

Then IF you watched Romney speak you saw him give out tons of “red meat” lines to a cheering audience. Now, you cover your comment on speech giving by adding that Romeny is lying every time he opens his mouth. OK that’s fine.

The above are simple facts. Don’t you know I wanted to see Newt give a great speech? He didn’t. Nor was this the first time Newt disappointed, in fact he chose to give that bizarre news conference after the Nevada caucuses, so he squandered the last chance he had to give a good speech on a primary night.

If Newt becomes the front runner again, he has my vote. So does Rick. Whatever happens I am going to vote GOP and against that lying miserable leftist disaster BHO.


56 posted on 02/29/2012 11:10:40 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams

The currently liberal Romney still supports gays in the military, embryonic stem cell research, global warming and Romneycare even though you say he’s campaigning as the most conservative candidate. While he is saying he’ll get rid of Obamacare, he has his minions out saying he won’t remove it, just tinker with it. Well what is it? Yes, remove Obamacare or no, just tinker with it. That is typical Romney behavior. Say whatever you think the audience wants to hear.

Mitt Romney is the Rockefeller wing liberal son of Rockefeller wing liberals who attempts to speak conservative to get elected. He will trash anyone else’s conservative history in order to make himself look good in comparison. He trashed Reagan, Gingrich and Santorum. But you want to believe he’s a conservative? Was he lying then or now? From him, it’s all been lies.

Don’t keep pimping Romney here. It seems we know him better than you know him. Romney certainly wants to get elected. He’d turn himself inside out if he had to. So lying and pretending to be conservative is nothing to him. But a conservative should know better.


57 posted on 02/29/2012 11:22:44 AM PST by Waryone (Mitt Romney, dangerous homosexualist and lying socialist)
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To: Williams
I want to see every one of these guys give a great speech. Did you watch Newt last night?

That tells me in and of itself that you really aren't all that committed to your conservative principles.

When it really counted, where the rubber hits the road, when Mitt Romney had the opportunity to actually do something as Governor he failed miserably.

His actions as Governor, including nominating extreme liberals for the court, support for Global Warming, Support for TARP, support for Abortion, support for the Gay Agenda (including Gay Marriage), his support and implementation of the so-called Assault Weapons ban show him to be a PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL.

Furthermore, he continues to obfuscate his past record, up to and including, outright lying about it (for example, claiming he has always been Pro-Life)

So, no matter what his words are today, his actions are what define this lying politician.

As for me, I don't want to see him do well at all.

I want this liar to fail, and fail miserably.

He is symptomatic of what is wrong with the GOP-E today, no principles whatsover and just a desire to win.
58 posted on 02/29/2012 11:36:58 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Waryone

It’s a shame that much of the commentary here on the election rises to kook level.

You don’t have to trust Romney, very valid point.

After that I read these posts and it’s rabid ranting by people who I think are not even watching the election.

Sorry but I explained I watched ALL the speeches last night. Newt and Santorum flat out sucked, and THEY were the ones I hoped to hear give good speeches. Romney’s speech was superior, by far.

I guess I’m supposed to come on here and BS that Newt and Rick gave great speeches. They sucked. At least Santorum tried to give a speech. For the second primary night in a row, Gingrich kicked away his opportunity to come out and give a good speech. Why is that? You tell me, geniuses because he’s supposed to be the perfect candidate.


59 posted on 02/29/2012 12:12:38 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: SoConPubbie

As for who is a “real conservative” I have absolute contempt for anyone who would assist in any way in the reelection of Barack Hussein Obama.


60 posted on 02/29/2012 12:14:20 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams

You believe one speech on one night by a proven liar and you think we’re kooks?

No one says you have to BS anything. In fact, you should stop the BS you’re throwing right now. You fall in love with one Romney speech, ignore everything you’ve learned about him, and think that makes him the most conservative candidate. Well bless your little heart.

Oh and I’m not a Newt supporter. I voted for Newt here in Florida because the disgusting tactics the lying socialist Obama-white pulled on Newt. I’m not a Santorum supporter. They both have their problems. But either of them is better than the lying socialist Mitt. If you want to support socialists, there are places for you to go. Free Republic is not one of them.

Hitler and Mussolini could give a rousing speech too. In fact, they’ve given many more than Mitt ever will. I guess since that’s your qualification for president, you’d be pulling for them too. Have fun with your lying Obama-white.

I will continue believing in conservative principles and supporting candidates who do more than give lip service to those principles. I will never be able to stomach either of the two Obamas.


61 posted on 02/29/2012 12:52:47 PM PST by Waryone (Mitt Romney, dangerous homosexualist and lying socialist)
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To: Waryone

See what I mean?

Hitler and Mussolini???

Two Obamas???

I’ve seen and heard MANY speeches by Newt, Rick, Romney, Cain, Michelle, Paul, etc. Romney happens to be the better speaker. That’s what I pointed out and it’s simple reality. It most definitely was true last night, and that was an important night. If Newt wants the nomination then why the heck did he come up so small last night?

Next, Romney is not Hitler or Mussolini, nor is he a duplicate Obama. But then I guess by your logic you will be more than glad to help reelect Obama if the GOP nominates Romney.

I respectfully suggest you actually listen to the republican candidates before you refer to Hitler, Mussolini or Obama.


62 posted on 02/29/2012 1:19:35 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Waryone

Why do you worry about past global warming positions, when Newt sat with Nancy Pelosi and supported a liberal GW agenda? Was he lying then or is he lying now? This is your standard in your post, not mine. I accept that these people are politicians or that they make mistakes.

Perhaps Romney is an absolute liar and would govern as a left wing liberal. All of the candidates have been called out on liberal positions or past positions. Even Santorum, who I assumed to be Mr. conservative, voted for unions, big spending, etc.

I will vote for whichever one gets the nonination, I wanted to see Gingrich/ Santorum give great speeches last night.


63 posted on 02/29/2012 1:26:12 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams

Romney is a proved liar and you listen to him. That is all I need to know about your judgment. So no I won’t be following your suggestions.

Two Obamas = Obama and his melanin deficient twin Romney.

Well maybe they aren’t quite twins. An argument can be made that Romney is more liberal. After all Obama is not the father of Romneycare. Obama has not banned any guns. Obama has not legalized gay marriage anywhere. Obama has not signed a bill allowing $50.00 abortions. Those are all things “your conservative” Mittens has done. Though they both support gays in the military, global warming and forcing the Catholic church and religious people to violate their religion. Something that would cause the founders of our country great distress.

Because you choose to imagine Romney has done none of these things, you erroneously think we should be supporting him. There is no one, republican or democrat, running today who can say they have done as much for the liberal cause as Obama-white Romney or the other Obama. So yes they are very much alike. As a conservative, I have no desire to support either of the two most liberal candidates running.

I have heard Cain and Newt both give much better speeches than Romney because they believe what they say and people come far and near to see and hear them speak. When Romney speaks, he is board stiff, almost plastic and his words are like cardboard. That is not the quality of a good speaker. I’m not the only one who feels that way. Just take a look at the size of his crowds. He is supposedly the frontrunner but if the bleachers are not stuffed with his specially bussed in supporters, no one wants to see him or hear him speak.

You like his speech. I get that. You don’t care that his actions have run contrary to his word. I get that too. But don’t expect the rest of us to give up our principles for your delusions.


64 posted on 02/29/2012 1:52:27 PM PST by Waryone (Mitt Romney, dangerous homosexualist and lying socialist)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Mitt has another trick. He has managed something and done well. That certainly contrasts with the Obamanation.

Not much of a Mormon though: He only has one wife. Newt has had three so far.


65 posted on 02/29/2012 2:10:45 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Yosemitest

I guess you voted for Obama last time, and will vote for him this time.

You are sending a message all right: to your children: “I want you to be bankrupt, a slave to the Chinese.”


66 posted on 02/29/2012 2:14:43 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Waryone

Right, you just said Obama is better than Romney. I rest my case.

I didn’t ask you to support anyone, I will support the nominee. I said Romney gave a better speech. I also pointed out that Newt and Rick gave lousy speeches.

And becuse we cannot support Romney based on past global warming stance, you just disqualified Gingrich? Sometimes logic matters. Newt wrote a whole book on adopting liberal issues and Rush had to take him to task for it.

But I’m guessing there is no logic to your nonsense, including the stupid references to melanin.


67 posted on 02/29/2012 2:19:19 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: donmeaker
He has managed something and done well.

Does Romneycare count for his managing things well as Gov of MA? The reason he ran for Pres in '08 was because he was such a "great" manager of the state, he was going to lose reelection as Gov.

68 posted on 02/29/2012 3:21:53 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: funfan
Good detective work on the suspicious...AmericansElect.org.

I looked it up online, and it's a list of far-leftie Dems (Thomas Friedman, NYT, PBS, etc) and quite apparently its a party-splitting, vote-splitting hoax. (They decline to name the funding sources, so one suspects Mister Soros.)

69 posted on 02/29/2012 4:20:55 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Williams

Wrong, I proved to you Romney is at least as liberal as Obama. Yet oddly you still support him.

But then as I’ve already mentioned. Your skills of judgment and discernment are lacking. You’re pimping a liberal candidate on a conservative site and you think that’s a good thing. You’ve been here a long time. It’s too bad you haven’t learned to support conservatives.

Take your Romney pimping elsewhere. This is a conservative website.


70 posted on 02/29/2012 4:34:58 PM PST by Waryone (Mitt Romney, dangerous homosexualist and lying socialist)
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To: Seaplaner
Yes! If you look at the block leaders or the people who are hosting events they seem to be a part of the OWS and that sort of thing scofflaws no doubt. I hope they all end up like Wiley Coyote as he tried to use dirty tricks to catch
the Road Runner but instead suffered at the hands of his own dirty tricks.
71 posted on 02/29/2012 5:20:28 PM PST by funfan (and his crew)
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To: Waryone

You proved nothing to me pal, and drop youjr insulting crap. In fact you’re very close to peferring Obama and I call that a liberal or most likely just a fool. Have a nice evening.


72 posted on 02/29/2012 6:07:21 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams

Sorry I don’t have to choose either commie tweedle dum Obama or socialist tweedle dee Romney. You haven’t said one thing condemning any of their liberal ways. They are both liberal idiots and you obviously love the way they think. I don’t like liberals. I don’t care what party they claim to represent. That you have no problem with Romney’s socialist ways says volumes about you. It also tells me what you really think about Obama’s ways. Say one thing and mean another. Just like Romney.


73 posted on 02/29/2012 7:57:12 PM PST by Waryone (Mitt Romney, dangerous homosexualist and lying socialist)
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To: Williams
As for who is a “real conservative” I have absolute contempt for anyone who would assist in any way in the reelection of Barack Hussein Obama.

So do I that is why I despise anyone supporting Mitt Romney in anyway since he doesn't have a chance at winning the General Election for POTUS.
74 posted on 02/29/2012 8:01:22 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: donmeaker; Lazlo in PA
Not much of a Mormon though: He only has one wife. Newt has had three so far.

He's not much of an honest man either:

"I have always been Pro-Life" - Mitt Romney January 2012
75 posted on 02/29/2012 8:04:29 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: donmeaker; Lazlo in PA
Not much of a Mormon though: He only has one wife. Newt has had three so far.

Let me elaborate on my last post to you:

He's not much of either an honest man or a conservative:

1. "I have alwasys been Pro-Life" - Mitt Romney January 2012
2. Supported Abortion as Governor of MA.
3. Supported the Gay Agenda, including Gay Marriage, as Governor of MA.
4. Supported and implemented an Assault Weapons Ban as Governor of MA.
5. Supported TARP
6. Supported the Auto Bailouts.
7. Supports Global Warming
8. Supports the repeal of Don't ask Don't Tell.
9. Implemented the socialistic RomneyCare with an Individual Mandate.


What was your point about Myth Romney again?
76 posted on 02/29/2012 8:08:09 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: donmeaker
You couldn't be more WRONG if you tried!
Romney is just another stinking liberal, a real loser!
The DemocratsMarxists sold our children to China as slaves to debt years ago!
I want FREEDOM and Santorum will get us there, and Newt would work well also.
But Romney? Don't be a dupe, buying the "Establishment Republicans" crap!
Like a caller to Rush said:
Yep, the "Establishment Republicans" will claim that we can win without them.
Look at their track record. They chose 3 candidates and look what it brought us, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and The ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF.
"Establishment Republicans" ALWAYS set us up for a loss.
Read how desperate the "Establishment Republicans" are: Look at the "winners" the "Establishment Republicans" have picked before:
The "Establishment Republicans" rate a


77 posted on 03/01/2012 12:16:10 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

I figure a member of the senate or Speaker of the house count as establishment.

Just sayin’.


78 posted on 03/01/2012 7:27:31 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker
I understand, however, someone that was "rebelled against" for trying to "change the system" is my kind of guy.
And a real conservative is what I want, the most.
But Romney, NEVER!!! He wouldn't change a damned thing!
No, we need a real fire breather, to take down the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF.
A vanilla flavor just ain't gonna' cut it!
And the first thing we need to do, is root out all the liberals in the judicial system.
Then prosecute the hell out of the guilty that has pan handled most of the tax payers' money through these "bailout" that weren't nothing but money laundering schemes.
No, Romney won't do!!!
79 posted on 03/03/2012 10:44:06 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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