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Russia gave Israel Iranian system's codes
Ynet ^ | 2/28/2012 | Ynet

Posted on 02/29/2012 1:42:44 AM PST by U-238

WikiLeaks has released an email exchange between employees of Stratfor, the US-based global intelligence company, which reveals Israel and Russia made a deal to swap access codes for defense and surveillance equipment.

According to the leaked document, Israel gave Russia the "data link codes" for unmanned aerial vehicles that the Jewish state sold to Georgia, and in return, Russia gave Israel the codes for Tor-M1 missile defense systems that Russia sold Iran.

In a document by a Stratfor employee dated February 2009 she says that she had met with a "Mexican source/friend" who told her that Israel and Russia had contracted a deal several years ago as part of which Israel provided Russia with codes of UAVs it had sold to Georgia. In exchange Moscow provided the Israelis with the codes for Iran's Tor-M1 aerial defense systems. The document suggests that the deal was signed before the Russia-Georgia war of August 2008 during which Russian forces invaded Georgia. At the time it was reported that Georgia was using Israel-made weapons. It can also be understood from the document that the Georgians had at one point realized that their UAVs were compromised and were looking for a replacement for the Israeli made drones. The Mexican source also addressed the S-300 aerial defense systems which Israel and the West have spent years trying to dissuade Russia from handing over to Tehran. The source said that Israel and Turkey were collaborating very closely in regards to the system and that since Russia sold them to Greece – Turkey's longtime rival – Ankara has been busy tryinh to crack their codes.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; iran; israel; russia; s300; sourcecode

1 posted on 02/29/2012 1:42:51 AM PST by U-238
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To: U-238

Right now I only believe we have no clue. The Persians invented chess, and the Israelis mastered it, while Americans invented fast food.


2 posted on 02/29/2012 1:55:08 AM PST by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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To: Dogbert41

Some say chess was “invented” in India. The earliest predecessors of the game originated in India, before the 6th century AD. From India, the game spread to Persia


3 posted on 02/29/2012 1:59:14 AM PST by U-238
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To: Dogbert41
One thing I know for sure.

The Russians will find and 'punish' the Wikileakers.

And their families and friends.

And dogs and cats.

4 posted on 02/29/2012 1:59:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (If unemployment helps the economy, like the W.H. says, then CONTRACTING CANCER MAKES YOU HEALTHIER!)
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To: Dogbert41

Chess is an Indian invention.


5 posted on 02/29/2012 2:07:24 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: U-238

So, there is no honor here? That tells us all we need to know about governments and thieves.


6 posted on 02/29/2012 3:36:28 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: U-238

Huh? These codes can’t be changed by the new users? Or is this “hard coded”?


7 posted on 02/29/2012 4:14:35 AM PST by laker_dad
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To: U-238

People and government make deals in their best interest all the time, according to Francois Mitterrand, Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher told him that if France did not provide the UK with the deactivation codes used by anti-ship missiles that France had sold to Argentina, that she might well authorize the nuking of Buenos Aires.

Naturally, Mitterrand surrendered to Thatcher’s demands, like the cheese-eating surrender monkey he was, lol


8 posted on 02/29/2012 4:29:43 AM PST by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat salad bar. NO ROMNEY!!!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Sez Wikileaks.

Thanks U-238.


9 posted on 02/29/2012 4:37:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: U-238

More Psy-Ops by Israel?


10 posted on 02/29/2012 4:40:53 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: Dogbert41

Modern writing without picture models(hieroglyphs) was developed in Israel. So what the USA has more patents than all other nations combined


11 posted on 02/29/2012 4:57:47 AM PST by STD (It Doesn't Take a Real Political Panjandrum to Cut Taxes & Cut Spending Stupid!)
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To: laker_dad

Do you honestly think Russia would sell something to Iran that didn’t have a hard coded back door?


12 posted on 02/29/2012 5:14:00 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: STD
By the Phoenicians.
13 posted on 02/29/2012 5:15:33 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

If you can’t trust the Russians, who CAN you trust?? LOL
Anyway, it’s gonna be hard to get repeat business...


14 posted on 02/29/2012 5:47:55 AM PST by laker_dad
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To: 1010RD

“Honor” and “Government” cannot be used in the same sentence. Most illogical.


15 posted on 02/29/2012 6:44:05 AM PST by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: James C. Bennett

Interestingly, there was a chess-like game board played by the Vikings called “Hnefatafl” or “King’s Table”, but instead of two armies facing off across the board from one another, in Hnefatafl there is a citadel in the center of the board for one player and the other player is in a surrounding or siege position which was more typical of Viking engagements.

From Wikipedia:

“Tafl games were a family of ancient Germanic and Celtic board games played on a checkered or latticed board with two teams of uneven strength.

Although the size of the board and the number of pieces varied, all games involved a distinctive 2:1 ratio of pieces, with the lesser side having a king-piece which started in the centre. The king’s objective was to escape to (variously) the board’s periphery or corners, while the greater force’s objective was to capture him. There is also some controversy over whether some tafl games (i.e. Hnefatafl and Tawlbwrdd) may have employed dice. Tafl spread everywhere the Vikings traveled, including Iceland, Britain, Ireland, and Lapland. Versions of Tafl, comprising Hnefatafl, Alea Evangelii, Tawlbwrdd, Brandubh, Ard Ri and Tablut, were played across much of Northern Europe from earlier than 400 CE until it was supplanted by Chess in the 12th century.”

It could be argued that such games were the first attempt at simulation training.


16 posted on 02/29/2012 8:43:15 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
Thanks!

There is a BBC articled on the lines of exploring the Welsh-Hindi link. You could probably Google it to find it.

It could be argued that such games were the first attempt at simulation training.

From Wikipedia:

The earliest precursor of modern chess is a game called chaturanga, which flourished in India by the 6th century, and is the earliest known game to have two essential features found in all later chess variations — different pieces having different powers (which was not the case withcheckers and go), and victory depending on the fate of one piece, the king of modern chess. Other game pieces (speculatively called "chess pieces") uncovered in archaeological findings are considered as coming from other, distantly related, board games, which may have had boards of 100 squares or more. Findings in the Mohenjo-daro and Harappa (2600–1500 BCE) sites of the Indus Valley Civilization show a prevalence of a board game that resembles chess.

Chess was designed for an ashtāpada (Sanskrit for "having eight feet", i.e. an 8x8 squared board), which may have been used earlier for a backgammon-type race game (perhaps related to a dice-driven race game still played in south India where the track starts at the middle of a side and spirals in to the center).[17] Ashtāpada, the uncheckered 8×8 board served as the main board for playing Chaturanga.[18] Other Indian boards included the 10×10 Dasapada and the 9×9 Saturankam. Traditional Indian chessboards often have X markings on some or all of squares a1 a4 a5 a8 d1 d4 d5 d8 e1 e4 e5 e8 h1 h4 h5 h8: these may have been "safe squares" where capturing was not allowed in a dice-driven backgammon-type race game played on the ashtāpada before chess was invented.

The Cox-Forbes theory, started in the late 19th century, mainly from the works of Captain Hiram Cox and Duncan Forbes, proposed that the four-handed game chaturaji was the original form of chaturanga. Other scholars dispute this and say that the two-handed form was the first.

In Sanskrit, "chaturanga" (चतुरङ्ग) literally means "having four limbs (or parts)" and in epic poetry often means "army" (the four parts are elephants, chariots, horsemen, foot soldiers). The name came from a battle formation mentioned in the Indian epic Mahabharata. The game Chaturanga was a battle simulation game which rendered Indian military strategy of the time.

Some people formerly played chess using a die to decide which piece to move. There was an unproven theory that chess started as this dice-chess and that the gambling and dice aspects of the game were removed because of Hindu religious objections.

Scholars in areas to which the game subsequently spread, for example the Arab Abu al-Hasan 'Alī al-Mas'ūdī, detailed the Indian use of chess as a tool for military strategy,mathematics, gambling and even its vague association with astronomy. Mas'ūdī notes that ivory in India was chiefly used for the production of chess and backgammon pieces, and asserts that the game was introduced to Persia from India, along with the book Kelileh va Demneh, during the reign of emperor Nushirwan.

In some variants, a win was by checkmate, or by stalemate, or by "bare king" (taking all of an opponent's pieces except the king).

In some parts of India the pieces in the places of the Rook, Knight and Bishop were renamed by words meaning (in this order) Boat, Horse, and Elephant, or Elephant, Horse, and Camel, but keeping the same moves.

In early chess the moves of the pieces were:

Two Arab travelers each recorded a severe Indian chess rule against stalemate:


17 posted on 02/29/2012 9:05:42 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: U-238

Thanks for the correction. So what came from Persia? Carpets? Anyway, I was being sarcastic and silly and all that. While on the verge of WWIII, I don’t think we should believe any of these “leaks”. They are put out there for a reason, and figuring out that is like trying to decide which cup has the poison in it, as shown in the movie “The Princess Bride”.


18 posted on 02/29/2012 11:42:03 AM PST by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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To: James C. Bennett

“Chess is an Indian invention.”

But the Persian learned how to cheat at it.


19 posted on 02/29/2012 12:45:04 PM PST by chooseascreennamepat (The response to 1984 is 1776.)
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