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14-year-old brutally murders mother because she wouldnĺt let him join gang
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Posted on 02/29/2012 8:34:38 AM PST by chessplayer

Joshua Smith, 14, was at one of life’s crossroads. His mother, Tamiko Robinson, fought hard to keep the Detroit teen on the straight and narrow. Members of a local gang in their twenties pressured him to live life as they did, on the edge.

Early Monday, Joshua made his decision. According to the Mail Online, he entered his stepfather’s room, got hold of a 12-gauge shotgun, and pumped at least ten rounds into his sleeping mother. The execution, carried out gangland style, was a clear and unambiguous message. It speaks volumes about two lives, destroyed in an instant.


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KEYWORDS: crime; sourcetitlenoturl
Probably too young for prison, and even if he was sent to prison he would probably enjoy it. Lots of gangs and violence in prison. Thats what he wants.
1 posted on 02/29/2012 8:34:44 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

No, not too young for prison. My guess is he will be sent there, to join the gang he so desperately wants to be part of.

Not to bash mom since you should not speak ill of the dead, but:

Where’s dad?

Does mom have a job and income or is she on “public assistance?”

How many generations in this “family” have relied upon government assistance?

Any prospects for productive employment among these people?

We can probably guess the answers to these questions.


2 posted on 02/29/2012 8:39:04 AM PST by henkster (Obama regime mission statement: "Find the people working, and stop them!")
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To: chessplayer

Not even a two bit punk. A one-bit or maybe half-bit punk. Perhaps even the tough guys he longs to be cooped up with will not take too kindly to a gratuitous matricide.


3 posted on 02/29/2012 8:40:41 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: henkster

In this case, a little READING can fill in some of the details. She apparently remarried.


4 posted on 02/29/2012 8:41:41 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: chessplayer

May Ms. Robinson rest in peace. And may the stepfather make that little sh!t Joshua wish he was never born.

God help us.


5 posted on 02/29/2012 8:42:18 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; spend money only with those who support traditional American values.)
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To: chessplayer

“Members of a local gang in their twenties pressured him to live life as they did, on the edge.”

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Well how brave of them. On the edge and all. Maybe Hollywood will lionize them, seeing how obsessed they are with edgy behavior.

More like OVER the edge into gross, uncivilized, pathologically antisocial, murderous savagery.

“On the edge” is confused counterculture terminology used for talentless “artists” who can’t produce works sufficient to pass a Junior High level art class.


6 posted on 02/29/2012 8:42:29 AM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: chessplayer

Why anyone who cares about their kids would stay in Detroit or any of the urban jungles is beyond me.


7 posted on 02/29/2012 8:42:29 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: chessplayer

Tamiko Robinson, fought hard to keep the Detroit teen on the straight and narrow.
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Must be hard living as an Asian in Detroit. Oh, wait....


8 posted on 02/29/2012 8:45:26 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote
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To: chessplayer

” It speaks volumes about two lives, destroyed in an instant.”

Nope, these lives were destroyed by DECADES of liberal utopian policies. Detroit is the logical outcome of democrat rule.


9 posted on 02/29/2012 8:45:33 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: chessplayer

Didn’t read the whole story but if it were my son I’d move away from the city. I’d move where there were no gangs.

Anyway, it’s too late. And something else must have been wrong. My friend grew up in south central and had to avoid both the crips and the bloods on the way home from school every day. Went on to become a doctor. Not easy but it can be done.


10 posted on 02/29/2012 8:45:41 AM PST by Yaelle (Rick Santorum for People's Representative)
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To: chessplayer
Without the shotgun this goes on every day. Teenagers buy into the violence and gangs thing. They ignore or physical threaten their parents (usually a single mom) if they try to stop them.

This is America in the age of Obama. These are the values that these young people have today. Get used to it.

11 posted on 02/29/2012 8:46:15 AM PST by detective
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To: henkster

Not to bash mom since you should not speak ill of the dead, but:

Where’s dad?

Does mom have a job and income or is she on “public assistance?”

How many generations in this “family” have relied upon government assistance?

Any prospects for productive employment among these people?

We can probably guess the answers to these questions.


Not to bash mom? YOU’RE DOING EXACTLY THAT!


12 posted on 02/29/2012 8:47:43 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I commend her for trying to keep her son out of a gang. And I don’t in any way say the kid isn’t responsible for what he did. My point is that this story is just one more sad illustration of what the welfare state has done to us. And the worst part is that instead of pointing out this fact, the media is probably going to use it as a reason to expand welfare because “we aren’t doing enough for the poor.”


13 posted on 02/29/2012 8:47:58 AM PST by henkster (Obama regime mission statement: "Find the people working, and stop them!")
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To: henkster

I’m pretty sure if they put him in gen pop he will be an important part of a “gang” .... but not the type he was thinking of.


14 posted on 02/29/2012 8:48:47 AM PST by utherdoul
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To: chessplayer
Where the hell was the father?

RIP Ms. Robinson.

15 posted on 02/29/2012 8:51:46 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: chessplayer
got hold of a 12-gauge shotgun, and pumped at least ten rounds into his sleeping mother
Really? Is this another high capacity assault shotgun?
16 posted on 02/29/2012 8:56:23 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao << >> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona)
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To: chessplayer
Sad. At 14 I was discovering girls and cars. I couldn't have conceived of something like this.

Wonder if this was some sort of initiation?

At any rate, this kid is about to learn what violence really is.

17 posted on 02/29/2012 8:56:23 AM PST by wbill
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To: Yaelle

Even my small Georgia town, far from Atlanta and any of that influence, has gangs. You can’t get away from them anymore. Armor your children from gangs from within. In their hearts.


18 posted on 02/29/2012 8:56:35 AM PST by Shimmer1 (Think. It isn't illegal yet.)
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To: ├čudda├čudd
high capacity assault shotgun

Yeah, I wondered that, too. That's a long time, and at least one re-load, depending.

19 posted on 02/29/2012 8:57:58 AM PST by wbill
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To: dragonblustar

Maybe he just took off.


20 posted on 02/29/2012 8:58:15 AM PST by Shimmer1 (Think. It isn't illegal yet.)
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To: Yaelle
Didn’t read the whole story but if it were my son I’d move away from the city. I’d move where there were no gangs.

I live in an area where we are starting to get families escaping the violence and drugs in South Central.
Unfortunately they often bring south central with them.

21 posted on 02/29/2012 8:58:34 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: detective

This is America in the age of Obama.”

Correct.

“These are the values that these young people have today.”

True of the Urban Feral population, but not all (one hopes so, anyway).

“Get used to it. “

America has realized the threat posed by Urban Ferals. That is why Americans are better armed than in the past.

Bounties are next.


22 posted on 02/29/2012 9:00:46 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Yaelle
Didn’t read the whole story but if it were my son I’d move away from the city. I’d move where there were no gangs.

A lot of women from the "inner-city" do this. they make use of Section 8 to get out where they think there are no gangs.

Guess what? It mostly just results in her little darling inviting the gang out to visit.

23 posted on 02/29/2012 9:01:48 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: chessplayer
Probably too young for prison,

A fourteen year who pumps 10 shotgun rounds into his mother doesn't deserve prison, he deserves the chair....

24 posted on 02/29/2012 9:05:24 AM PST by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: dragonblustar; Shimmer1

Didn’t you read the article? That s.o.b. Joshua went into his *stepfather’s* room. I.E. Ms. Robinson remarried. She also tried her best to raise him right. Sadly, she failed. I think that this tragedy was the result of glamorizing gangs, who are nothing but a bunch of murderous, drug-dealing scum.


25 posted on 02/29/2012 9:07:36 AM PST by Jacob Kell (Osama/Obama the only difference is BS.)
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To: chessplayer
It speaks volumes about two lives, destroyed in an instant.

This punk's life was not destroyed in an instant. It will be destroyed in slow motion, over decades of pain and suffering. This is a good thing.

26 posted on 02/29/2012 9:10:38 AM PST by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: chessplayer
It speaks volumes about two lives, destroyed in an instant.

I guess we should feel sorry for the punk... His mother just died, after all...

27 posted on 02/29/2012 9:12:48 AM PST by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: detective

This particular case might be assigned to the age of Obama but the trend is not only in that/this age. I despise Obama but the USA has to be open and honest that such behavior has been long developing. I take the real decline of National conscience to have begun in the early 1960s when O’Leary and the drug culture started growing along with the God is dead movement in churches and seminaries. It is very sad that a Nation that came out of WWII with such united vigor lapsed into the feely-goodie fog. This subsidence of National spirit for the Nation our Founders intended was helped along by international, eg. Soros and bankers, who were bent on destroying USA exceptionalism. With unrestrained immigration, legal and illegal, the corrupters had easy marks.


28 posted on 02/29/2012 9:14:25 AM PST by noinfringers2
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To: Jacob Kell
Didn’t you read the article? That s.o.b. Joshua went into his *stepfather’s* room. I.E. Ms. Robinson remarried.

Didn't you read the whole article? Mom's fiance jumped out the window as soon as the shooting started.

29 posted on 02/29/2012 9:15:24 AM PST by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ├čudda├čudd
and this too

The execution, carried out gangland style

No, that's shot to death while asleep in bed. Gangland style. Hmmph. Sounds like how order ribs or chicken, not describe murder - St. Louis Style, Memphis Style, Cajun, extra-crispy, original recipe...

30 posted on 02/29/2012 9:22:59 AM PST by Sax
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To: utherdoul

Most states require juvenile offenders to be segregated from the general population...until their 18th birthday. Since he will probably be in prison when he turns 18, they will throw him a very nice party. As you say...”but not the type he was thinking of.”


31 posted on 02/29/2012 9:23:04 AM PST by henkster (Obama regime mission statement: "Find the people working, and stop them!")
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To: Haiku Guy

It’s too much to expect a modern news article to agree with itself, that’s for sure. Stepfather-to-be, or else past fiancee. Can’t be both.


32 posted on 02/29/2012 9:32:09 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: henkster

As a juvenile, he’ll get out when he’s 21 too!


33 posted on 02/29/2012 9:32:40 AM PST by catman67
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To: Jacob Kell
Didn’t you read the article? That s.o.b. Joshua went into his *stepfather’s* room.

Calm down. It said his "step father" not his real father.

The mother did everything she could but where was that kid's real father? What was the dynamic of his biological parent's relationship? I think that has a lot to do with why that kid was so attracted to the gangs.

34 posted on 02/29/2012 9:40:52 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: chessplayer

There is absolutely no way to stop this kind of madness except to return to traditional family life, the kind where REAL fathers live with and join with mothers to raise the kids they jointly called into being. The so-called “stepfather” here was actually mama’s “fiancé,” and about all he was good for here was supplying the murder weapon.


35 posted on 02/29/2012 9:40:52 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Haiku Guy

Hey it could be two seperate men.


36 posted on 02/29/2012 9:41:06 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: chessplayer
. . . . . Tamiko Robinson, fought hard to keep the Detroit teen on the straight and narrow. Members of a local gang in their twenties pressured him to live life as they did, on the edge. Early Monday, Joshua made his decision. According to the Mail Online, he entered his stepfather’s room, got hold of a 12-gauge shotgun, and pumped at least ten rounds into his sleeping mother.

I don't mean to speak ill of the dead but, perhaps if she had involved this young man in church and made sure that God was an integral part of his life, she might still be alive.

And, perhaps if the sperm-donor was still around, the son might have had a better role-model than gang members and street thugs.

Unfortunately, in prison, this kid will find all the violence and gangs he wants. And, when he wants his mother to visit him, visiting days are going to be VERY long and lonely for him - unless his cellmate is named "Tiny".

37 posted on 02/29/2012 9:46:32 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: catman67

Not if he is waived to adult court and is convicted as an adult; he will get an adult sentence and have to serve it out.

In his case, it will be all about the waiver of juvenile court jurisdiction to adult court. The judge can waive him just on the basis of this type of crime alone, but it would greatly help if there has been some prior contact with the juvenile justice system.


38 posted on 02/29/2012 9:49:04 AM PST by henkster (Obama regime mission statement: "Find the people working, and stop them!")
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To: chessplayer

After the guilty verdict, take him out behind the courthouse & shoot him. Then find the gang bangers that encouraged him & do the same.


39 posted on 02/29/2012 10:13:59 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: chessplayer

Sick. RIP.


40 posted on 02/29/2012 10:41:50 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj
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To: chessplayer

We’ve been coddling juvenile hoods for decades, and this is the result.


41 posted on 02/29/2012 10:45:06 AM PST by Socon-Econ (Socon-Econ)
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To: chessplayer

Leftists pit children against the wisdom and authority of their parents. This is what happens.


42 posted on 02/29/2012 10:58:29 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: chessplayer

43 posted on 02/29/2012 11:26:40 AM PST by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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To: Socon-Econ

I’m going with “crazy as an outhouse rat”.


44 posted on 02/29/2012 11:29:06 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Haiku Guy

A real brave guy.
(Sarcasm off)


45 posted on 02/29/2012 11:59:00 AM PST by Jacob Kell (Osama/Obama the only difference is BS.)
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To: chessplayer

The article is contradictory. First it calls the mom’s fiancee his “stepfather”, then they accurately report him as the fiancee.

What a sad story. Mom shacking up with non-bio dad, adolescent son-time-bomb ready to explode. So glad the boyfriend and sister escaped. Dr. Laura used to say that the most dangerous animal on earth is the adolescent male.


46 posted on 02/29/2012 1:35:19 PM PST by b9 (Newt is substance. The others are talking points)
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