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San Antonio Spends $7500 per Electric Car on Recharge Stations
02/29/2012 | R2

Posted on 02/29/2012 12:51:14 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

From the Express News...

Power stations wait for traffic

Colin McDonal, San Antonio Express-News 
Updated 02:25 a.m., Tuesday, February 21, 2012
 

A reader wants to know why the city has installed 120 recharge stations, such as this one, for electric cars when there are only about 80 electric cars in use in San Antonio. Photo: Helen L. Montoya, San Antonio Express-News / ©SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS-NEWS
 
 

San Antonio now has more than 120 public electric car charging stations spread across the city, putting it on par with places like Austin, Seattle and San Francisco in welcoming the new vehicles. 

CPS Energy installed the stations and is celebrating them today at the Santikos Embassy 14 movie theater on the North Side with local electric car owners — a number that CPS estimates is now 80. 

~snip~

The U.S. Energy Department paid for the stations, valued at $5,000 each, as part of a three-year study about how to make electric cars more acceptable.

 

more....
 

Then yesterday - a letter to the editor
  

‘What a bargain!' 

Re: “Power stations wait for traffic” (Page 1, Feb. 21):

The city has installed 120 recharge locations for the estimated 80 electric cars in San Antonio. And we wonder where the stimulus money (read: our tax money) went. 

The Express-News story said, “The U.S. Energy Department paid for the stations, valued at $5,000 each...” Regardless of who paid for it, if it was a government entity then it was our tax money. That's $600,000 — $7,500 per local electric car. What a bargain!

 

George W. Hollis




TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: electricvehicles; vanity
FWIW, I am not George W. Hollis. But I will say he is spot on.
1 posted on 02/29/2012 12:51:22 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Here in Manassas Virginia we also got the “free” charging stations but it cost the city $15,000 for installaion.

We vave ONE Chevy Volt.

“Electric Charging Stations – 5 were deployed in the City of Manassas – Provided free to the City @ $5,000 a piece, $25,000 total

Installation costs have run in total $15,000”


2 posted on 02/29/2012 12:59:42 PM PST by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: satan

Its said they’re doing the same thing in the city I live in; I’ve only seen one Nissan Leaf. I’d be afraid to own one for fear someone would be angry and attack me. People here can be seen shaking fists and shooting the bird at Prius owners.


3 posted on 02/29/2012 1:07:23 PM PST by Rich21IE
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To: Responsibility2nd

Question - is the electricity provided free of charge by these charging stations? Or does the car owner have to pay for it? If the electricity is free, that is even more cost to the taxpayers.


4 posted on 02/29/2012 1:12:48 PM PST by KMG365
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To: satan

Recharging stations are just another example of Obama screwing over the tax-payers.

After we get done paying for a $7500 (soon to be $10,000) tax credit for others to buy a Volt, we then have to absorb the $250,000 cost that Govt. Motors passes on to us taxpayers to build a single Volt.

And now we have to pay for these idiots to recharge the damn thing?


5 posted on 02/29/2012 1:12:59 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd

Who pays for the electricity for charging these monstrosities? I say if you have the money to buy one of the glorified golf carts AND get $7500 from the government for doing so, you ought to be paying at least for the electricity you are using to charge them if not a portion of the cost of the charger as well. The rest of us when we pull into a gas station have to pay for our $5/gallon Obama gas and aren’t getting any free ride.


6 posted on 02/29/2012 1:15:16 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: KMG365

FTA

For $2, anyone with a credit card and a cellphone can get two hours of charging from the 240-volt stations, also known as level 2 stations, providing enough power for most electric cars to travel 15 to 20 miles.

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$2.00 to drive maybe 20 miles.

Sound worth paying $40,000 for a Volt, huh?

/s


7 posted on 02/29/2012 1:18:15 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd
Anybody remember vandalized pay phones?

How long do you think it will be before some punks start tearing these charging stations up?

8 posted on 02/29/2012 1:27:42 PM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Responsibility2nd
"valued at $5,000 each, as part of a three-year study about how to make electric cars more acceptable?"... Accept this....
9 posted on 02/29/2012 1:28:35 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Responsibility2nd

I know George and I’m not surprised he caught this. Good Job! BUT he forgot to add in all the taxpayer subsidies and incentives to the cost of the 80 cars (7.5k each?). Also does that 5k per include install costs?


10 posted on 02/29/2012 1:28:48 PM PST by Afisra
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To: Responsibility2nd

Awww! You beat me to it!


11 posted on 02/29/2012 1:31:24 PM PST by Afisra
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To: satan

What does it cost to get a charge?


12 posted on 02/29/2012 1:31:49 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Good point!....Just how long do these dummy green politicians think it will be before they are all vandalized?....All the criminals have to do is tear apart the recharge station and wait for John Q Public to pull up and then rob him.


13 posted on 02/29/2012 1:31:58 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Responsibility2nd

Thank you, Mayor Julian Castro, Obama lover, son of a vitriolic latina community organizer, for dragging what had become a fairly responsible city government back into the Democratic bog it hauled itself out of.

San Antonio: conservative populace led by flaming progressive p-c types. Makes me nuts.


14 posted on 02/29/2012 1:37:03 PM PST by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: jagusafr

Dittoes on your comments on Castro.

Him, his brother and their mother have no love for this Country and our heritage.


15 posted on 02/29/2012 1:40:18 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd

These can’t be endlessly charged.

How many charges can these batteries take before they need to be replaced?


16 posted on 02/29/2012 1:41:39 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6
This is the same city council that approved an electric street car system to run across town( Express News and local media are in the bag for the libs and gays). We need an electric street car system like we need a huge fountain in front of a historical Catholic Church( oh wait, our last mayor had that done as well as closing some usually congested streets) Waste of our money and nobody says nutin.
17 posted on 02/29/2012 1:53:18 PM PST by shadeaud ( “Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8”. Just doing my duty a Christian)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Only in a communists controlled Country could this happen. What, America? We are us shi! creek without a paddle.
18 posted on 02/29/2012 1:58:42 PM PST by Logical me
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To: jagusafr

You’ve got that right. And Julian has his eyes on the governorship (probably next term) and his brother is running for U.S. congress.


19 posted on 02/29/2012 2:00:35 PM PST by Texan
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To: Responsibility2nd

It would be cheaper to give everyone a horse. They can do 20 miles in 2 hours, and as bonus they could create extra government-union jobs for people to cleanup all the horse shit.


20 posted on 02/29/2012 2:11:59 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: Responsibility2nd

Gas stations are ridiculously expensive as well. If you break them down by how many pumps they have, a new station is probably $100k a pump. If you buy a used station, maybe $50k a pump.


21 posted on 02/29/2012 2:18:25 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Responsibility2nd
Ever try to use one of those coin-operated air stations at your local gas station?

They almost never work and some cases let the remaining air out of your tire.

(Can't say service station any longer, what are those?)

22 posted on 02/29/2012 2:19:24 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Responsibility2nd
$2.00 for two hours ???


23 posted on 02/29/2012 2:26:17 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Malone LaVeigh

Ever try to use one of those coin-operated air compressors at your local gas station?


24 posted on 02/29/2012 2:28:20 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

Yep.

Picture this...

You pay $40,000 for a piece of crap GM car with a GASOLINE motor. It might get 100 MPG, but...

It takes 12 hours to fill it up.
When the tank is full, you still can only drive 30 minutes.
There is a good chance your car will catch on fire.
It costs $250,000 to build that car

Now. What sensible person would buy that car?


25 posted on 02/29/2012 2:32:56 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd
$2.00 to drive maybe 20 miles.

And the two hour wait. Time is money.

26 posted on 02/29/2012 2:36:13 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; jagusafr

I doubt that either of the Castro’s will realize their dreams. They are unknowns outside of the city.


27 posted on 02/29/2012 3:32:55 PM PST by Sarajevo (Money cannot buy happiness, but it's more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes than on a bicycle.)
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To: Sarajevo

Your lips —————> God’s ears.

Actually, I think in Texas Dem circles, they’re being seen as the inheritors of Henry Sleazneros’ mantle, so we’ll see. Might have to run somebody against one or both of them who can reach their demographic.


28 posted on 02/29/2012 3:59:10 PM PST by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: KMG365
If the electricity is free, that is even more cost to the taxpayers.

Electricity's not free?

29 posted on 02/29/2012 4:00:38 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: jagusafr

The good citizens of San Antonio need to make themselves known - maybe 5,000 of them - at the next council meeting and rip the mayor a new a-hole.

Let the cops escort his obama-loving ass out of the council chambers in fear.

It’s way past time for patriots to take back their neighborhoods from the leftist scum.


30 posted on 02/29/2012 4:01:01 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Responsibility2nd

Here’s what I would do - invest in cars that run on natural gas - a resource we have something like 400 years supply of. Then drill like hell for NG, build all the needed pipelines, and problem solved. Cars that run on NG have been around forever and to my understanding are trivially different from gasoline powered cars. Certainly not different enough that the engineering is all that complicated. I rode in a NG powered taxicab in Canada in 1990 or thereabouts.


31 posted on 02/29/2012 4:08:13 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: shadeaud

The SA city council and the mayor are a collection of Mental midgets and political pygmys that deal with such critical problems as

Smoking in bars
Bikini Car washes
Strip joints
Soccer stadiums
Streetcars-flushing more money down the Via Metro toilet
Completely tearing up the Fred/Med intersection so Empty VIA Buses have a direct route to continue to be empty
Continuing congestion to push for toll roads

Sadly, the only adult in the room is Bexar Co Judge Nelson Wolff, the only one that can put a deal together. His deals are mixed bags of benefit/liberal creep. (ATT Center and Toyota plant)

They keep saying they want SA to be a “World Class City”, but while they work to bring Turd World activities like Soccer in, the roads continue to degenerate to Turd World Donkey paths. I guess that makes us a true Turd “World Class City”

And please don’t get me started on that ba$T@ard Cisneros and the Dead Armadillo (AlamoDome)

End of RANT!!!!!

:)


32 posted on 02/29/2012 4:18:45 PM PST by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: 5Madman2
[snicker]

So, What do you think of Sheryl Sculley? :)

Continuing congestion to push for toll roads

Personally, I'd like to see Terry Hall (SA Toll Party) take the political reins of that issue.

33 posted on 02/29/2012 5:57:01 PM PST by Sarajevo (Money cannot buy happiness, but it's more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes than on a bicycle.)
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To: Sarajevo

Sadly, I think she might be able to be one of the adults in the room if she was not saddled with a City Council that belongs in a clown car at the circus.

She has flashes of competence, but sure as hell ain’t worth her salary.

Terry Hall is an excellent “Bomb Thrower” on Toll roads, and you’re right, it would be good to see her fit that into a broader agenda that deals with bringing city government back to where it should be:

Roads
Police
Fire Dept.
Reasonable Code compliance and effective residential/business zoning.


34 posted on 03/01/2012 4:32:51 AM PST by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The wasteful spending in the USA continues to bury us in debt. We are deep, and will continue to get deeper and deeper, into socialism. This story about these electric charging stations is just one of millions that make up a humongous monster called Socialism. We have been duped by politicians for years and I don’t see how we can get out of it. And EARMARKS are the root of it.


35 posted on 03/01/2012 5:10:46 AM PST by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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