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Santorum let his moment come, then go
thehill.com ^ | 02/29/12 08:30 PM ET | By Niall Stanage

Posted on 03/01/2012 5:18:23 AM PST by VU4G10

Rick Santorum put a lot of chips on Michigan, and he lost. Now the question is whether his chance to prove he is a viable alternative to Mitt Romney has slipped away for good.

Santorum’s loss has raised new questions about his tactics in Michigan in particular, and his vulnerabilities as a candidate more generally.

His team’s decision to make robocalls to registered Democrats asking them to turn out for him on primary day was as divisive as it was ineffective. The tactic left an unpleasant taste in the mouths of many conservatives.

Describing the move as “ill-considered,” Florida Republican strategist Rick Wilson added that many conservatives were “turned off by the whole thing.”

The Romney campaign has continued to try to make hay from the controversy. Wednesday afternoon, his aides organized a conference call in which high-profile surrogates called on Santorum to “stop teaming up with Democrats.”

Wilson and others also point to the number of controversies revolving around social issues in which Santorum became entangled.

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1 posted on 03/01/2012 5:18:38 AM PST by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10

Santorum is a typical Republican.

He struggles to turn Victory into Defeat.

He doesn’t know when to shut up.


2 posted on 03/01/2012 5:21:13 AM PST by Venturer
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To: VU4G10

I’m thinking that any votes lost by Santorum won’t be going to Romney.


3 posted on 03/01/2012 5:21:37 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: VU4G10

These were the tactics used by specter in PA. We all know what that led to.


4 posted on 03/01/2012 5:23:35 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: VU4G10

So taking the same number of delegates from Michigan as Romney is a loss?

Frankly I’m saddened by how willing some FReepers are to play the media game for them.


5 posted on 03/01/2012 5:24:57 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly what I was going to say. Rick won more delegates than Romney. End of story. We’ll see how Super Tuesday looks, too.


6 posted on 03/01/2012 5:29:29 AM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: VU4G10
Rick Santorum put a lot of chips on Michigan, and he lost. Now the question is whether his chance to prove he is a viable alternative to Mitt Romney has slipped away for good.

I'm thinking the exact same sentence can be written for Gingrich: "Newt Gingrich put a lot of chips on Florida, and he lost. Now the question is whether his chance to prove he is a viable alternative to Mitt Romney has slipped away for good."

After all, since Gingrich lost Florida, he has lost 5 more races, and except for one where he came in 2nd, has been a complete non-factor.

But clearly the pro-Newt folks believe he can come back, and in fact are certain of it. Which means they should realize that the Santorum folks probably believe exactly the same thing. And the rest of us are just hoping ONE of the two can come back and win, and that they don't spend the rest of their time and money just attacking each other.

7 posted on 03/01/2012 5:29:56 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: VU4G10
No this is just an example of how far we have fallen as a Nation. There is nothing wrong with Rick. It is the country that is the problem. Our people have bought the relative moral behavior from the left. There is nothing wrong with what Rick says. It is what you think you hear in your lost soul.
8 posted on 03/01/2012 5:30:28 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: VU4G10
His team’s decision to make robocalls to registered Democrats asking them to turn out for him on primary day was as divisive as it was ineffective. The tactic left an unpleasant taste in the mouths of many conservatives.

Romney robocalls were going to the exact same people. My liberal sister told Romney door knockers that she was a democrat and they said they didn't care as long as she was willing to help stop Santorum's extreme agenda.

In fact, why does no one notice that Romney won the most liberal areas of Michigan, and santorum won the rest.
9 posted on 03/01/2012 5:30:28 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: VU4G10

Reagan reached out to dems in 1980. Trying to figure why Santorum doing essentially the same thing is a foul.


10 posted on 03/01/2012 5:31:19 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: VU4G10
the argument Romney made in his victory speech might carry the day. “We didn’t win by a lot, but we won by enough — and that’s all that counts,”

BS. It was a very weak victory and he split the delegates with Santorum.

11 posted on 03/01/2012 5:38:26 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Newt: "The high price of gas is the deliberate strategy of the left.")
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To: bmwcyle

It cracked me up to see Rick Snyder out there complaining about the “dirty tricks” of Santorum since he is only Governor due to democrat crossovers who voted for him in nearly identical numbers as voted for democrat Bernero.

In fact in the interview, Snyder said he wants the primaries to remain open. Now why would he say that if it just leads to crossover voters?

The Romney supporting GOP establishment in Michigan had their chance to close the primary but didn’t. Santorum simply outplayed them at their own game.


12 posted on 03/01/2012 5:38:53 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: VU4G10

Mich. Delegates= 30
Santorum won 17
Romney won 13

The way I see it Romney WON the popular vote, but what they are vying for is DELEGATES! Don’t be led by the media!


13 posted on 03/01/2012 5:40:40 AM PST by Fighter@heart (Ask The American Indian how ignoring immigration worked out for them!!! WAKE UP!!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Well, at his peak on February 19th, Gallup tracking had Santorum at 36, Romney at 26, and Newt at 13.

Today’s release (Feb 28 final date) has Romney at 33 (+7), Santorum at 25 (-11), Gingrich at 16 (+3).

So it appears that Romney gets over twice as many “lost Santorum votes” as Gingrich gets.

Which meshes with what we see in most preference polls, and mirrors what we see in states where Gingrich came in 2nd, vs states where Santorum comes in 2nd. Namely, if Santorum is in 2nd, the combined Santorum/Gingrich vote is better than when Gingrich comes in 2nd. In fact, there are NO cases yet where Gingrich beat Santorum but came in 2nd and the combined Gingrich/Santorum vote beats Romney. Whereas in Michigan, even though GIngrich only got 6%, if you combine him with Santorum they beat Romney easily. (Arizona the two of them lost to Romney, but kept him below 50%: in Nevada, when Gingrich came in 2nd, Romney was over 50% total).

One explanation for that is that, in fact, Santorum votes tend to split evenly or more toward Romney, so if Santorum is pushed down, Romney goes up by more than Gingrich, and (as in Florida, Nevada, and New Hampshire) the total Newt/Rick vote loses to Romney.

But if Santorum is in 2nd, as in Michigan, the combined vote of Rick/Newt is higher, because Newt’s voters tend to move to Santorum.

I don’t know why. I just know that it seems to be holding true, and that this makes it harder for Gingrich to win, because pushing Santorum out tends to help Romney at least as much as Newt.

Maybe that will change going forward.


14 posted on 03/01/2012 5:42:10 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: VU4G10

The robocalls were beyond stupid.

Not only were they bad tactics, they totally blew away any claim he had to the moral high ground. And that, deserved or not, was practically the only real advantage he had over Romney.

It’s gone now.

I am in utter awe at how gracefully he blew his own foot right off at the ankle.

I’m starting to think we might indeed lose to Obama because I am still convinced that the Dems have all the ammo they need to take out both Mitt and Newt.

So hey RIck! Thank you very much for the double-face-palm, beat my-head-against-the-wall, screaming-to-scare-the-cat temper tantrum earlier today.

Clears the sinuses....


15 posted on 03/01/2012 5:42:42 AM PST by Ronin (VOTE NEWT! He's Not Romney! Huh? He did?? Scratch that! GO SANTORUM!!!)
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To: cripplecreek
I can't help but think that if it had been Newt Gingrich who pulled a stunt like that, you would be screaming from the mountain tops, that he be immediately removed for betraying the “pure conservative” cause, or proclaiming how evil he is.

You truly do have a double standard that you are not able to see in yourself. You just proved that by justifying who and what Santorum is (Or what you say he is) when Santorum makes these kind of fatal errors.

Well, sorry, it's not working.

16 posted on 03/01/2012 5:43:00 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: cripplecreek

In fact, why does no one notice that Romney won the most liberal areas of Michigan, and santorum won the rest.


Have you seen in info how much the democrat cross over helped Santorum in these areas where he won? I’ve read that upwards of 9% were democrats but obviously they didn’t all vote for Santorum. There maybe more speculation about the crossover than actual data.


17 posted on 03/01/2012 5:44:13 AM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: VU4G10

The robocalls were beyond stupid.

Not only were they bad tactics, they totally blew away any claim he had to the moral high ground. And that, deserved or not, was practically the only real advantage he had over Romney.

It’s gone now.

I am in utter awe at how gracefully he blew his own foot right off at the ankle.

I’m starting to think we might indeed lose to Obama because I am still convinced that the Dems have all the ammo they need to take out both Mitt and Newt.

So hey RIck! Thank you very much for the double-face-palm, beat my-head-against-the-wall, screaming-to-scare-the-cat temper tantrum earlier today.

Clears the sinuses....


18 posted on 03/01/2012 5:44:58 AM PST by Ronin (Sarah.... We really need you now!)
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To: bmwcyle
No this is just an example of how far we have fallen as a Nation. There is nothing wrong with Rick. It is the country that is the problem. Our people have bought the relative moral behavior from the left. There is nothing wrong with what Rick says. It is what you think you hear in your lost soul.

You have spoken a most accurate and profound truth!

19 posted on 03/01/2012 5:46:17 AM PST by McBuff
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To: Ronin

well... I will at least feel better knowing that Romney will forever have his name linked to the long list of Republican losers, after he loses to Obama.

I am about to tune out totally.

It’s a shame, I really liked Gingrich, but I guess people just can’t get past his past :/


20 posted on 03/01/2012 5:46:59 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: VU4G10
Santorum needs to point out Romney's similarities to that other "Republican" hoaxster, Mayor Bloomberg.

Bloomberg and Romney are both "hands-on" successful business men, who can't control their urges to micro-manage people's lives.

Bloomberg and Romney have expressed support for gun control laws.

Both men have meddled in our private health decisions.

Food-nanny Mike declares war on salt in NYers diets

Mayor Bloomberg banned smoking and didn't stop there. He went so far as to ban ashtrays.

21 posted on 03/01/2012 5:48:41 AM PST by syriacus (Contraception mandate will enrich Planned Parenthood.)
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To: ScottinVA

Trying to get people from the other party to vote for you is a tactic to win elections.

Reagan appealed to Dems, who became the Reagan dems.

Believe it or not, there were Republicans that voted for Obama.

Before the election word was being passed around that Obama would govern from the center like Clinton, so it wouldn’t be so bad. After all, all we had was McCain.

Everyone on FR knew that was pure hogwash. We knew Obama would run far left, which is what he did.


22 posted on 03/01/2012 5:52:33 AM PST by dforest
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To: cripplecreek

I read that Santorum received a greater number of delegates than Romney. So yeah, Santorum lost, according to the media. Makes sense when you consider the media’s inability to find the truth on purpose.


23 posted on 03/01/2012 5:52:41 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

“Rick won more delegates than Romney”

Too bad msm koolaid drinkers will NEVER know it.


24 posted on 03/01/2012 5:52:46 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: deport

We can also speculate about what crossover means. Here in the 7th district there are a lot of union republicans. When I was AFL-CIO I didn’t vote democrat. My neighbors are both union members and are rock ribbed conservatives.

There is also a growing conservative UAW group in Michigan who do more than talk the talk. The head of the group (Terry Bowman) testified against union political fundraising on capitol hill just a few weeks back.

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/16292


25 posted on 03/01/2012 5:55:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: bmwcyle
No this is just an example of how far we have fallen as a Nation. There is nothing wrong with Rick. It is the country that is the problem.

I completely agree. I notice very few dispute the truth of which Santorum speaks; rather it's all about the political "appropriateness." IOW... he's saying the things the moral relativists can't bear to hear.

26 posted on 03/01/2012 5:55:46 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: cripplecreek

Saddened is an understatement. This this is descending into a high school popularity contest complete with sophomoric insults. Its sickening.


27 posted on 03/01/2012 5:58:38 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Ronin

Thanks for the laugh!! I think you are right, we might lose to Obama. I am praying this is wrong and there is some sort of definitive breakthrough. Maybe the sky rocketing gas prices will do it?

I trust the cat has regained equilibrium! (hehe)

I agree that the robocalls were a shaky tactic. It is true that Reagan reached out to and appealed to and received votes from the more conservative leaning “blue dog” Reagan democrats, whatever that means. If it refers to a blue tick hound type, better give the cat safe haven again.

However I highly doubt Reagan directly requested crossover votes in a Republican primary. Maybe ... I doubt it though, the strategy appears somewhat underhanded. Go for their votes in the general, but don’t undermine the primary process on purpose. I like Rush but was uncomfortable with his operation Hilary tactic. Maybe we ought to reform the primary rules.


28 posted on 03/01/2012 5:59:04 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: deport
LOL! It's actually quite entertaining, watching you Reverend Rick fanatics, brainstorm your apologies and scenarios of what you “think” (mostly hope) Santorum was really trying to say or do.

And it is particularly funny, how you build what was clearly a serious blunder or pathetic performance, into a “brilliant strategy”, with genius like outcomes.

And you always seem to focus on polls or data that favors him as, cutting edge, extremely accurate, gospel truth, when the same poll however, shows Newt gain or Santorum’s other opponents, they are “BOGUS!” BS, completely twisted, Leftist propaganda, completely false!

And you are wrong about the crossover data, it was gathered by a nonpartisan survey group and was somewhat conservative in it's findings. The actual numbers were higher than 9% on the average.

But no matter how you apologize for your candidate, he did what he did, and that violates all the “principles” he is claiming to represent, and he will pay for that betrayal.

29 posted on 03/01/2012 6:02:18 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: cripplecreek

We can also speculate about what crossover means.


Yep, speculation can be made about most anything or process. But Santorum spent time/effort to try to get traditional democrat voters to cross over and play the spoiler role for him. I doubt the number is very high but it would be interesting to know, imo.


30 posted on 03/01/2012 6:04:05 AM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: dforest

I read the transcript of Santorum’s robocall. I have NO problem with him inviting Democrats to vote for him because of his pro-union votes, or his working class roots, etc. That’s what Reagan did-—tried to get Dems to vote FOR you. But the call clearly says “On Tuesday join Democrats who are going to send a loud message to Massachusetts Mitt Romney by voting for Rick Santorum for president.”

This is unbelievably boneheaded, and the story has gone viral. It reeks of manipulating the process. Now he’s handed Romney an issue all wrapped up with a great big bow. It just shows the Santorum campaign is not ready for primetime.

(Yes, I’m a Newt supporter.)


31 posted on 03/01/2012 6:05:02 AM PST by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: skeeter
The list of counties won nationwide so far. I think Michigan has been revised up to 57 for Santorum.

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Sadly candidates who have already dropped out took nearly 30,000 votes in Michigan themselves.

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32 posted on 03/01/2012 6:07:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: deport
But Santorum spent time/effort to try to get traditional democrat voters to cross over and play the spoiler role for him.

And Romney did the same with the only difference being the method. Romney had people knocking on doors. As far as the robocalls are concerned, they all went to the same people.
33 posted on 03/01/2012 6:13:01 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: VU4G10
Not sure how coming away with a minimum (possibly several more after all is said and done) equal number of delegates, and winning in every single county and precinct in which an actual Republican draws breath, from what amounts to the home state of his opponent qualifies as a genuine loss. I suppose Niall will call what looks to be an absolute trouncing of Gov. Romney next Tuesday in our little bellwether State of Ohio a "draw".

Organized Mormonism may have found its birthplace in the Buckeye State but this isn't Utah, Arizona, or Nevada, and unless I'm mistaken our total number of convention delegates will amount to more than what those three scenic wastelands will send combined. It's a marathon, Mitt, and to these eyes it looks like you're beginning to cramp up.

34 posted on 03/01/2012 6:14:53 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: VU4G10
"lost" Michigan, my left foot. Rick spent a fraction of MITT ROMNEY, it was not on his home state court, was opposed by the Governor, most elected GOP officials (Establishment) and Michgan GOP party structure, just like Ronald Reagan 34 years ago, and Rick ended up tying Mitt Romney in the end, 15 delegates to 15 delegates.

This is pure, unadulterated, agenda-driven, narrative-steeped, anti-Santorum bullcrap, you can see right through it. How old is the "writer? 15? Cub reporter for a high school newspaper?

35 posted on 03/01/2012 6:17:05 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (I liked the FREE REPUBLIC of years on end which NEVER had a problem with Rick Santorum, Conservative)
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To: ScottinVA
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First, I despise Mitt Romney ... I'm a Newt Gingrich guy ...

Second, Mitt Romney was "correct" about Santorum's "public" solicitation of Democratic voters in a Republican Primary ...



Santorum (stupidly) VIOLATED the "process" ... an admittedly screwed-up process ... but still the official "process" ...

As an unexpected consequence of Santorum's Michigan mistake, we'll probably (finally) see a national state-by-state move to "close" GOP primaries to GOP members only ...

and that's a great idea ...



Of course, I'm happy that Santorum DEFEATED ROMNEY IN MICHIGAN ... vis-a-via the delegate count ...

Trust me ... "all" of the professional Political Class (Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Morris) ... and the MEGA-BIG-MONEY guys ...

Properly see Romney's MICHIGAN LOSS as his Waterloo (as per Napoleon) ...

Romney's campaign (at this point) is akin to Napoleon's capture of Moscow ... a series of pointless victory ... spending (by one estimate) $ 375,000 per GOP Delegate won ...

Romney's fading away began TODAY ... 1 March 2012 ... even Matt Drudge sees that ... with his "Newt as Lazarus" front-page story this morning ...

Santorum will fade also ... and after Newt's Super Tuesday victories will "finally" have the sense to drop-out ...



All of America's "genuine" Conservatives and Patriots can breathe a sigh of relief today ...

Mitt Romney (John McCain II) is strategically checkmated ...

And "The Kenyan" WILL BE DEFEATED by Newt Gingrich in November 2012 ...




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36 posted on 03/01/2012 6:17:22 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: Ronin

“The robocalls were beyond stupid”.

How is what the Santorum team did any different from the lying, conniving tactics of the Romney attack dogs who put out robocalls of Rick endorsing Mitt FIVE years ago?
And they weren’t the only ones in on effort:

“Democratic strategist Joe DiSano has been on an active campaign to get Democrats out for Santorum in effort to hurt Romney. He recorded a robo call and has sent tens of thousands of e-mails to Democratic voters encouraging them to go to the polls.”

Read more: http://www.wisn.com/politics/30560528/detail.html#ixzz1nsK1NkCr


37 posted on 03/01/2012 6:26:21 AM PST by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for your insight. We’ll know much more in six days when the polls close on Super Tuesday. So far the electorate hasn’t coeleased around a candidate and stuck with him/her. To me they are still searching.

Take care.


38 posted on 03/01/2012 6:26:46 AM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I agree with your analysis. I think Santorum had the ability to attract the ABO vote from Romney because his negatives weren't as high as Gingrich. The media and the Republican establishment has been doing their best to drive up Santorum’s negatives, though. Fox and Ailes seem to be in the tank for the establishment. I noticed they highlighted Santorum’s effort to reach out to dems in MI last night. They neglected to mention the open primaries, who was in favor of them, and has benefited from them previously. I read in the WSJ journal this morning that the R establishment is quite relieved that their vanilla candidate is back in the groove now though. The only media that Santorum has on his side at this point is a handful of talk radio hosts. Not much hope that the forces against Santorum will not succeed in marginalizing him even more before super Tuesday.
39 posted on 03/01/2012 6:30:05 AM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: cripplecreek
Hardly a lose, not giving into defeat.
Rick did better than expected inspite of all the money that Romney poured into Michigan, and inspite that it was his supposed home state.
40 posted on 03/01/2012 6:31:18 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Here’s Mittens latest gaffe: Keep it up Rombo!

WASHINGTON (AP) — Presidential candidate Mitt Romney said Wednesday he opposed Senate Republicans’ effort that critics say would limit insurance coverage of birth control, then reversed himself quickly in a second interview saying he misunderstood the question.
Romney told Ohio News Network during an interview that he opposed a measure by Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., that was scheduled for a vote Thursday. “I’m not for the bill,” Romney said before urging the interviewer to move on.
Romney later said he didn’t understand the question.
“Of course I support the Blunt amendment. I thought he was talking about some state law that prevented people from getting contraception so I was simply — misunderstood the question and of course I support the Blunt amendment,” Romney later told Howie Carr’s radio program in Boston, noting that Blunt is his campaign’s point man in the Senate.


41 posted on 03/01/2012 6:32:00 AM PST by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

It’s pure propaganda.. don’t let them get you down.


42 posted on 03/01/2012 6:33:21 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

History will favor Rick Santorum in this, he will come out the winner in all of this.


43 posted on 03/01/2012 6:35:09 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The voters don’t want a Big Government guy who masquerades as a “conservative”. Rick was able to keep the masquerade going for a little while, but now he’s been in the spotlight too long and the mask is melting off.


44 posted on 03/01/2012 6:36:00 AM PST by Short Bus
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To: Mountain Mary
LOL! Yeah, he keeps forgetting he's a C-O-N-S-E-R-V-A-T-I-V-E. Whoops. He did say he won't light his hair on fire just to please the base, too. Pesky little base. See if these remarks are featured on the Ailes channel.
45 posted on 03/01/2012 6:40:53 AM PST by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly.

The worst case in all this, is a Romney win.

Anything which keeps that harder for Romney to accomplish, is a win.

Even sending the contest into a brokered convention is better than a Romney win.

Absolute worst which happens with a brokered convention is another RINO, or Romney still. There is no downside to a brokered convention.

Christie, Jeb, any worst case you can think of is no worse than Romney. All the same, so why worry about the worst case?

We already have the worst case: Romney leading.

Best case, is we morph a brokered convention, into our best candidate in the last two decades: Sarah Palin. Teamed up with someone like Vice President Marco Rubio.

It would be a historic landslide, and mean a groundswell of new support which would carry the GOP and America, to new heights of freedom and excellence.


46 posted on 03/01/2012 6:43:33 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto; cripplecreek; stonehouse01

JMHO, but I think the point of the article; that Santorum lost because of his appealing to those democrats that consider themselves to be conservative via the robocalls, is disinformation and misdirection. Romney’s bogus counterattack on the issue came quick, as it needed to in Michigan, and may have made Santorum look bad in the eyes of some, but long-term is shallow and superficial and won’t have much effect.

The real reason Santorum did not get quite over the top, and basically tied Romney, is better-explained by a pretty good, albeit misguided, writer whose Romney-supporting ways have made her persona-non-grata on this forum lately, here:

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-02-29.html

JMHO


47 posted on 03/01/2012 6:47:14 AM PST by ngat
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I am to the point now where SANTORUM OR NEWT better freaking win this thing. I actually don’t care whom anymore. Santorum and Newt could have worked together more (I know you don’t agree) but they decided to run “against” each other. Had Santorum endorsed Newt in Florida and Newt endorsed Santorum in Michigan, we would not have the WORST of the three gaining traction. This thing has become a disaster. I blame BOTH Santorum and Newt PERIOD. I suppose you are going to disagree with me, but if you think about it you may thing parts of my post is correct.


48 posted on 03/01/2012 7:22:33 AM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: ngat
All is fair in love, war and politics. If not for the Democrat votes that Santorum got he would have finished 8 points farther behind. So what is it that is stupid about the robocalls? He harvested a lot of votes from them.

Rick Santorum is not the polished politician that Romney is, he is not smooth and is not as well spoken as Newt, but, he is probably a better conservative than either of the others.

I'm not sure how much I care any more. It is a shame our primary has to go on so long. It would have been better to select a candidate behind closed doors in some smoke filled room and then let us all get behind him. No matter who wins now we will be split. The truth is that all of the candidates would be wildly better than Obama but the party is now split. We will not all get behind the eventual winner of the primary regardless of who it is. We have played right into the Democrats plan and now the party is fractured because of the hard fought primary.

I wish it was over.

49 posted on 03/01/2012 7:30:29 AM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: napscoordinator
Sooner or later, good people and FReepers like you, come to grips with reality. I have never faulted you for your opinion or outlook, I merely expressed why I felt you were being misled or were allowing yourself to be misled.

One could argue my intent and many still do, but I call a mutual truce with you in particular, in that respect.

It is pointless that we keep arguing over something we both have little to no control over. I see this from a realistic point of view and you see this from a Moral Imperative. Neither position is more wrong or right from any other perspective than our own.

What we all face from here on out, is the reality of how this race has unfolded. The results, and how it actually unfolds and eventually ends, is what we have to accept for what it is.

I am not optimistic about the future outcome. I have expressed my concerns repeatedly and much if what I have pointed out, has or is, coming true. Don't get me wrong, I am not bragging about being right, I am merely pointing out that much of my outlook has become correct, and much of that has been in spite of itself.

50 posted on 03/01/2012 7:39:02 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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