Skip to comments.Sheriff Arpaio: Obama birth certificate a ‘forgery’
Posted on 03/01/2012 12:26:24 PM PST by RobinMasters
PHOENIX Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said Thursday he suspects the birth certificate President Obama released designed to prove his U.S. citizenship last year is a forgery.
A six-month long investigation conducted by my cold case posse has lead me to believe there is probable cause to believe that President Barack Obamas long-form birth certificate released by the White House on April 27, 2011, is a computer-generated forgery, the long-time sheriff, who has regularly battled the administration, said.
Sheriff Arpaio said at least two crimes were committed in his view through the forgery.
He released a 10-page report detailing what his investigators said were inconsistencies in the text characters of the birth certificate image the White House released, and also questioned details of the computer file itself.
Some of those claims had earlier been raised on the Internet as well, and the White House has rejected them.
The Justice Department has accused Sheriff Arpaio of civil rights abuses, but he said he began his investigation before that.
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No kidding. This is a Chicago Mob that Sheriff Joe is up against.
No kidding. This is a Chicago Mob that Sheriff Joe is up against.
If Obama was going to release the originals, then you are right. However, he released something that looks to me like what Hawaii issues now - not the original document, but a document with information placed into it.
It looks like a computer-generated paper form. If I ask Minnesota for my birth certificate, I now get one similar to that - an ‘official form’, but not the original documents. And I would assume it would be pretty easy for the head of a state agency, with lots of democrat workers, to produce a state document pretending to have real info in it.
That seems a more plausible route for forgery than digitally altering an image.
I could goggle it, but it's been a really long day .. seem to recall its being required for marriages, enlistments, etc ...
Where did I read about the microfiche discrepancy?
I was in the room...ABC sucked ditch water
Can’t speak to all states or purposes, but a state issued birth certificate is all that is needed for the military, marriage or for a passport.
Hope this means he is not allowed on the AZ ballot (Phoenix) in Sheriff Joe’s jurisdiction.
thanks for the ping and the links...
That's incorrect. Please my FR Home Page for a explanation on this item: BuckeyeTexan's FR Homepage
Rumor: Americans could not travel to Pakistan in 1981 because there was a U.S. State Dept. travel ban in place.
Truth: The U.S. Department of State issued Travel Advisory No. 81-33A for Americans traveling to Pakistan in 1981.
Before traveling to Pakistan, American Citizens should be aware of the following updated visa requirements: 30 day visas are available at Pakistani airports for tourists only. As these visas are rarely extended beyond the 30 day time per visa. Tourists planning to stay longer should secure visas before coming to Pakistan. Any traveler coming into Pakistan overland from India must, repeat must, have a valid visa, as 30 day visas are not, repeat not, issued at the overland border crossing point at Wagha.
If they had ADDED just "Obama" after Ann Dunham using a different pen, that would've been too obvious so they started the overwrite earlier in her signature so it would look more believable.
The joke's on us.
Rumor: Obama Senior's race would be listed as "Negro" in 1961 not "African."
Truth: The Hawaii Department of Health accepts the race as specified by the parent(s).
"They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as 'African'? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that 'we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be.' We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as 'African'." ~FactCheck.org: The truth about Obama's BirthCertificateThe instructions for the 1962 Kenyan census instructed Kenyans to identify themselves as: "Write European, Arab, Somali, or African, etc. Asians must write Indian or Pakistan.
A Certificate of Live Birth issued in 1973 and certifying a 1907 birth lists the father's race as "American" and the mother's as "Hawaiian." (American is not a race, as you know.)
Yes, Keala Harriet Hardesty is a real person and these are her real parents. You can look it up for free at ancestry.com.
Does Sheriff Joe’s report provide any technical analysis that substantiates the posse’s claim that the electronic image of the long-form on the WH website is an electronic forgery?
I’m eager to see what technical details they’re releasing.
Why are you using Factcheck as a source of reliable info?
I seem to recall that a smiley face and some other obvious mistakes were made by the forger....
It was postulated at the time that these were some sort of "insurance" placed by the forger to avoid taking tea with Polonius (a dirt nap in Fort Macy Park for those in Rio Vista).
OK, I get it, don’t like someone’s religion, then use it test means them illegally out of the political realm. Kinda seems a bit hypocritical if you ask me.
It’s a little different when someone with the color of authority and a well known national figure comes and says it is a forgery. Has more weight to it than WND for example.
Romney will never bother to ask BO anything about his past or present. He’s exactly like that wimp McCain.
one was a Levitical priest. Then the priest was to be married and he was commanded to have only one wife.
Geez, for supposed religious conservatives, ya’ll don't know much about the history of scriptural marriage. Me thinks ya’ll better leave the judgment up to God and look to where you are in offense to him in your own lives.
They left because of religious persecution and for the record, there was no US LAW regarding marriage at the time
The Romneys left the US because the Romney male would have gone to jail for bigamy just like many of his cohorts in the Mormon religion did...
Bigamy was a crime..a jailable offense... against nature and against the US laws..
He took his several wives and fled to Mexico...
All the “restoring” and shuffling of records will not change the fact that the Romneys were immoral criminals..
God looks on polygamy/adultry as he does homosexuality...
Both are equal sins and devient sexual practice..
The act was designed to target the Mormon practice of plural marriage and the property dominance of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the Utah Territory. The measure had no funds allocated for enforcement, and Lincoln chose not to enforce this law; instead Lincoln gave Brigham Young tacit permission to ignore the Morrill Act in exchange for not becoming involved with the Civil War.
The Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act was amended in 1882 by the Edmunds Act, and then again in 1887 by the EdmundsTucker Act. The act was repealed in 1978.
Can you say “unconstitutional”? Marriage has always been a religious issue, not a state issue and why Lincoln never enforced it but instead made exception for the LDS. It's time to get the govt out of the bedroom once and for all as the founders intended it to be. But this does stop at relationships between a man & a woman when done legally according to Scripture as God has had laws against homosexuality since HE created man.
FC claims to have spoken with Kurt Tsue who told FC "that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that 'we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be.'"
Whether Kurt Tsue's statements are true requires more research IMHO. In an attempt to determine if Kurt Tsue was telling the truth, I ran across a birth certificate that seems to validate Kurt Tsue's assertion that parents' are allowed to self-identify their races.
The reader must come to his own conclusion about the evidence supplied. At this point, there is more evidence supporting the idea that Senior would have identified himself as African than there is evidence that the HDoH followed some rigid specification document. The HDoH specification document indicates "White" should be used as a race instead of "Caucasian." But most of the BCs we've all seen online indicate "Caucasian." So I don't see that HDoH follows their own rules. And we've seen that before with that department on the UIPA requests.
Now had there been a Scriptural Temple & Romney had been a Levitical Priest, yes, then he would have been breaking the moral laws of God, but he wasn't now was he.
God looks on polygamy/adultry as he does homosexuality...Both are equal sins and devient sexual practice..
Actually, no they are not I challenge you also to give one Scriptural reference for that statement of yours. You say polygamy is equal to homosexuality and God says there is no law that is less or more than the other, they are all equal especially when it comes to worship. When one keeps sun day worship in lieu of keeping the Sabbath, while doing as they please on God's Sabbath they are committing adultry in their relationship with God. Do you keep the Sabbath according to Scripture as Jesus did and commanded us to do or do you go to sun day church and brush off God's Sabbath commandment as old and outdated as the sun day church teaches one to do there by causing every sun day worshiper to commit adultry every week?
Is there any room left under the community organizer's bus? Someone is fixin' to get thrown! You can't expect the pResident to fall on his own sword! That's why he keeps a big corral of czars and lackeys!
#2: Had you studied 1st century history, you would know that deacons, bishops, etc were pharisees, scribes, rabbis etc who had formal training and were of the levitical background. They were all very well studied in Torah as Paul was.
#3 Widows, widows under a certain age were the responsibility of the family of the deceased husband and were to be given in marriage in the event the husband died. Only widows with no family, i.e., children and who were past marriage/childbearing age were the responsibility of the church.
Mt 5:17-19 I did not come to destroy the Torah or the Prophets, I cam to fill up with meaning...not one jot or tittle shall be taken away or added to Torah until heaven & earth pass away.
Well, since we are still here, then Torah still stands. I suggest you start in the beginning and not 2/3 of the way through because the last 3rd didn't even exist and there is no new law in it. Nothing new under the sun. Want to follow Christ, then study the Scripture He taught, the Scripture he gave from the beginning as he was there in the beginning(John 1:1-14) and all the way through until he came in the flesh.
Had Jesus even broke the tiniest of Torah instructions, he would have been disqualified as being the Messiah and he certainly did not come to abolish that which was his essence, his being, which is the Torah, the Word of God, the Memra.
In 2 Ti 3:16 Paul says: "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instrution in righteousness" Well, since this was merely a letter as are all his other works, Paul wasn't speaking of any NT, when referencing Scripture, Paul was speaking of Gen-Mal.
We’re talking Federal law, nto state law. I am very well aware of states rights. The law in reference here is national law, not state law.
Again, why would anyone even bother reading what FactCheck has to say unless they were doing it from the view of what the enemy is up to. It was researched and the list of what races/ethnicities in use at that time were listed on many threads, many times.
And “African” was not one of them.
You are using FactCheck as an authority and saying someone else is wrong solely on the authority of that leftist 0bama connected site.
Exo 21:10 If he takes another wife, her food, her covering, and her marriage rights are not to be diminished.
Gen 29-30, Jacob had many wives
Lev 18-21; Num 30; Dt 25 laws of marriage, sexuality & widows
Yeshua Messiah quotes from these references as well as the apostles. Nothing new under the sun, when they said Scripture, they were mostly talking about Torah, the 1st 5 books also known as Moses.
Act 15:21 For from ancient generations Mosheh has, in every city, those proclaiming him being read in the congregations every Sabbath.
2Co 3:15 But to this day, when Mosheh is being read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 And when one turns to the Master, the veil is taken away. 17 Now YHVH is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of YHVH is, there is freedom.
absolutely, his life is in danger, and doesn’t have secret service protection.
He is the most ugly-looking sheriff on the planet. He has this typical ‘racist’ face full of hatred as depicted in the movies. Why would any freeper applaud this nuts is beyond me. We can do better than this.
this is exactly why I left the church a couple of years ago. YHVH finally revealed the truth to my heart.
Joh 5:45 Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you: Mosheh, in whom you have set your expectation. Joh 5:46 For if you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, since he wrote about Me. Joh 5:47 But if you do not believe his writings,1 how shall you believe My words? Footnote: 1Lk. 9:33, Lk. 16:31, Mal. 4:4-5.
Joh 12:44 Then יהושע cried out and said, He who believes in Me, believes not in Me but in Him who sent Me. Joh 12:45 And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me. Joh 14:24 He who does not love Me does not guard My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father Who sent Me. Joh 14:25 These Words I have spoken to you while still with you. Joh 14:26 But the Helper, the Set-apart Spirit, whom the Father shall send in My Name, He shall teach you all, and remind you of all that I said to you.
You see, xtianity preaches and worships the sent one, not "THE ONE" as the sent one commanded us to do. It is all about the Father, not the son. IOW, they teach & preach the doctrine of man, not that of God. Why? Religious power, the worst of all evils. The Catholic leaders proudly proclaim that they have the power to change the doctrine of the Creator and thus all xtianity is under their authority to this day, even those still in protest since the Luther. Regardless, Scripture only denied multiple marriages to the priesthood because of its tendancy to corrupt the spirit. Do I promote polygamy? Hell No! But it is not for me or any man to judge as a moral or legal issue outside the priesthood.
So because you don’t like the way he looks “we can do better than this?”
Are you female by chance?
Are you of the Reformed church?
It’s probably Jarrett or some 0bama fanatic in the ‘corrupt to the core’ Hawaiian health department.
Another piont. You might want to actually look intpo the Greek to see the difference between “Law” & law. “Law” is Torah and in Mt 5, Yeshua Messiah said he did not come to take it away, in fact he said it was to stay in tact as long as this heaven & earth still exist.
“law”, small “l” is dogma, the religious doctrine & ordinances put in place by man. That is the law that was nailed to the cross, not the “Law”, Torah of God.
FYI, there was no Greek word for Torah and thus the Greeks translated it as law. Atleast they were intellectually honest as to use the correct definitions which xtian doctrine sidesteps in their teaching, which is totally intellectually dishonest! But if one actually takes the time and looks up what Torah means, they find it literally means “instruction” as in how to live according the instructions of YHVH.
“he got into Columbia...where he claims in his book...to have taken every drug he could get his hands on...where did he get the money???”
My money is on... hustling for tricks in Time Square.
I'm surprised that people still get confused by the simple explanation of "Natural Born Citizen". It has nothing to do with where you were born......but everything to do with whom you were born to. If both of your parents were citizens of the U.S. (now pay attention) at the time of your birth.....you are a Natural Born Citizen. If one of your parents was a citizen......let's say, of Kenya..... at the time of your birth and the other was a U.S. citizen.....you could have been born in the lobby of Independence Hall in Philadelphia on the fourth of July with the Marine Corps band playing the National Anthem outside on the lawn. But.....you would be designated only as a citizen......and not a Natural Born Citizen because one of your parents was a foreign national.
This whole birth certificate thing is nothing more than a diversion. Both parents must be citizens (at the time of your birth) to qualify you as NBC. This is one reason Marco Rubio is unqualified. His parents were not yet U.S. citizens at the time of his birth, even though he was born in this country.
Same situation with Bobby Jindal. Both he and Marco were born as citizens of this country but since their parents weren't citizens (at the time of their birth) they are not NBC.
And the obvious is also true with Obama. His father was a foreign national...... so it makes no difference where B.O. was born.....in Hawaii or downtown Nairobi. One of his parents was not a U.S. Citizen! He is not a "Natural Born Citizen!"